Digong, The President

[ClaNker]

Mayor linked to drugs implicates ex-justice chief: police

A town mayor linked by President Rodrigo Duterte to the narcotics trade has claimed that a former justice secretary who is now a senator was a protector of drug lords, a police official said Wednesday.

Chief Inspector Jovie Espenido, Albuera town police chief, however did not directly identify the alleged protector as Senator Leila de Lima. Espenido said Albuera Mayor Ronald Espinosa Sr. made the allegation in a sworn statement.

Duterte has accused De Lima, who was justice secretary for six years from 2010, of allowing her former driver and alleged lover to collect money from drug lords detained at the national penitentiary.

“I’ve learned a lot during my prosecution days,” the President said. “We planted evidence. We arrested persons but we released them. But telling him that it was this person who squealed on him and then when he goes out but killing we would say it was this fellow who really did it, who did you in.” Duterte

Ang pangit ng lyrics na kakantahin ni Espinosa.

[confused shoes]

The Coastal highway was already their big move to ease traffic from Cavite... that and the MCX, which helps move people between Cavite and Manila.

Unfortunately, these projects also fall under induced demand, so traffic is still getting heavier.

Easing access to the airport helps not simply in terms of sheer volume, but in economic opportunities opened up in terms of tourism and business.

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There is no real solution to EDSA except for people to start taking alternate routes.

During the big jam brought about by the monsoon rains a month ago, I managed to get from Balintawak to SLEX in just 1.5 hours... everyone else was stuck on EDSA for three to four. And that 1.5 hours included half an hour stuck trying to get past the floods in Banawe. If I'd simply followed my instincts and taken C5, I would have only taken one hour.

That shorter travel time is simply from avoiding EDSA.

EDSA is a complete muck-up of development. If we'd let it remain a highway rather than a gigantic parking lot for big malls and condominiums, we could probably ease much of the congestion there and spread it elsewhere.

Makes sense, sir Niky.
Skyway 3 may help.

[anonemus]

That has always made me curious - before the Duterte campaign, the drug problem was never on the forefront of the ills that needed solving in our country.

For the longest time, poverty and corruption have been the biggest problems that needed to be addressed. Yet, during the Duterte campaign, 16M people were suddenly convinced that we needed to go on an all-out drug war.

I have always believed that drug use is correlated to poverty levels. The poorer a community, the higher their propensity to turn to drugs. Yet, this government prefers to hack off the branches rather then address the roots.

Perhaps if Duterte says that the problem is that people have too much freedom, everyone will buy into that as well, and wholeheartedly accept Martial Law.

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Reposting what a friend posted over at FB

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THE BIG BAD DRUG PROBLEM

A. THE PEN-AND-PAPER TEST

Take a piece of paper. List down everyone you personally know who is a current drug user. List only “current” as you might add Bill Clinton or Steve Jobs or Bill Gates, all of whom experimented with drugs at some point in their colorful youth. Besides, you don’t really know them personally.

Each Pinoy adult who does not live in a cave should know about 1,000-5,000 persons - classmates, co-workers, relatives, neighbors, friends, enemies. 3% of “people you personally know” should give you 30-50 users on your personal list. How many did you get?

If you listed 30-50 users, congratulations – you have a job waiting for you at PDEA. Easy job consisting of connecting dots from A to B to C to finally come out with a matrix. Kindergarten level skill. But beware, the only people who seem to know 30-50 users are themselves suspected users. You might be on the kill-list before you finish your matrix.

If you are like me with a very short list of 0 to 10 names, then maybe you live in a bubble. If 100 of us go thru the same exercise & end with the same short list, maybe we all live in bubbles. If 10,000 of us reach the same results, maybe the 3% drug use figure is the bubble.

B. THE DUTERTE MANTRA

During the election campaign & even at his first SONA, Duterte kept citing 3m drug use figure from PDEA. More precisely, he said “3m addicts 2 to 3 years ago, and possibly 3.7m now”. Works out to about 3% of the entire population.

Visit the PDEA website and all the data they have are about enforcement – raids, arrests, amounts seized, marijuana plantations eradicated, infested barangays. Not any macro estimate of the drug menace based on sound research & analysis.

This 3m has been recited ad infinitum that it is taken as gospel truth. But is it correct?

C. THE OFFICIAL DATA

The most credible data source on Philippine Drug Abuse is the Dangerous Drugs Board. Among the board members are cabinet secretaries from Justice, Defense, Labor, Social Welfare, Education, Health, Finance, Local Government, Foreign Affairs. Plus NBI Director, PDEA Chief, and PNP Chief.

This is what the DDB reports show:
1. Latest estimate of 1.3m users as of 2012
2. Earlier estimate of 1.6m users in 2008
3. A whopping 6.7m users in 2004

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These are based on nationwide structured statistical surveys with sample sizes exceeding 10,000. Are these figures overstated or understated? We don’t know. But it is better than picking 3m out of thin air.

Few things worth noting from DDB reports:
1. Extent of drug use has fallen from 8% of 2004 population to 1.3% of 2012 population
2. DDB attributes “steep decline” to intensified law enforcement operations & drug demand reduction programs – essentially patting itself in the back
3. If true, this shows targeted policies & interventions can get the job done without resorting to extra-judicial shortcuts

Looking deeper into the 2008 report which is available in its 117-page entirety, there are some interesting tidbits:

http://www.ddb.gov.ph/images/psrsd_r...d%20Survey.pdf

1. Significant 10.6% of respondents have tried drugs
2. 76% of those who tried drugs stopped. 24% of those who tried drugs continued
3. Drug users were 92% male. Shabu was the top drug of choice – by 75.5% of users
4. Reasons for first use: curiosity, peer presume, problems (family & marital)
5. Reasons for continued use: peer pressure, problems (family, personal & work)
6. Reasons for stopped use: nothing good happened in life (56%), tried once & stopped (29%), got sick using drugs (6.6%), jailed (6.6%)

Again the data on first, continued & stopped usage provides hints on how to effectively combat drugs. We have to make drugs uncool, give kids better things to do & talk about, provide help & advise on problems. Maybe let ex-drug users star in “nothing good happened in life” ads.

Here’s another interesting link from 2015 on rehab admissions:

215 Statistics

There are a few stats in there too:
1. 93% male. Poly-drug use. 97% shabu & 25% marijuana.
2. 51% married. 47% employed or student. 28% college level.
3. Average age 31. Average 6 years+ drug use

Many shabu users are just like us – father, son, employed, student, etc. They don’t fit Duterte’s “non human” description. That they are still admitted to professional rehab programs also debunks Duterte’s “beyond redemption” characterization.

By all means, there should be strong & intelligent enforcement actions to disrupt the supply side. But sustained success will depend on solving the demand side where "jail" is a relatively weak factor for stopping addiction.

D. THE DRUG MENACE

There were 6.7m users before (in 2004) and the country could slide back to that level if we do nothing. So the 3m figure – while arbitrary – should not be scoffed at.

But in the big scheme of things, the Drug menace is overstated. It was good marketing to win an election.

We will not be a “narco-state” like Mexico
1. Mexican cartel business is not domestic supply but international logistics distribution, from producers in the south to massive US market in the north. The scale is in the tens of billions of dollars.
2. Philippine drug lords are only after relatively small & poor local demand
3. The Mexican “state” has actually been pursuing its own version of “War on Drugs” with same deadly results

To characterize Drugs as Issue #1 for the Republic is ignoring data & wrong priority-setting. It means taking focus & resources away from bigger problems.

I would rate a few problems much higher than Drugs – Poverty. Quality Modern Education. Affordable Heath Care. Decongesting Manila & other metros. Expensive Electricity. Telco Duopoly (and its byproduct, costly & slow internet). Disaster Risk.

Get those pieces of paper and start making these people-you-know lists: Poor People. Under-Educated. Sick-and-Can’t-Afford-Treatment. Stuck-in-Traffic. Slow-Internet. Compare versus your Drug User list.

Even the old reliable – Corruption – remains a bigger issue. Here’s the tip of that iceberg: If you want a name-and-shame campaign, you can have a Napoles matrix listing about 120 legislators who collectively dipped into billions of pesos. Not tsismis mind you, but based on sworn affidavit. Many of them are incidentally still in Congress, in Duterte’s super-majority coalition.

These are the issues that affect 50%, 60%, 70% 80% 90% even 100% of our population. Drugs is not non-issue. But it is NOT Issue #1. Other “wars” – War on Poverty. War on Ignorance. War on Congestion – are far more critical.

Wrong priority pursuing the wrong war in the wrong way.

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[safeorigin]

to be f*cking honest, all this virtue signalling on recreational drug use as a crime is BS and hypocritical. first and foremost, it's a victimless crime. their addiction is already their punishment and why the heck would anyone have the moral authority to worsen their lives even further through incarceration and death?

before proclaiming to the world that you are against substance abuse, don't drink coffee or any caffeinated beverages. if you can't even manage that then face it, you're a f*cking hypocrite! you are drug dependent on a pyschoactive drug.

[minicarph]

to be f*cking honest, all this virtue signalling on recreational drug use as a crime is BS and hypocritical. first and foremost, it's a victimless crime. their addiction is already their punishment and why the heck would anyone have the moral authority to worsen their lives even further through incarceration and death?

before proclaiming to the world that you are against substance abuse, don't drink coffee or any caffeinated beverages. if you can't even manage that then face it, you're a f*cking hypocrite! you are drug dependent on a pyschoactive drug.

I promise I wont comment here for 5 days pero i doubt my President du30 is against all drugs.

He has been accused by the yellow as waging a war against the poor, you know what there is truth to that statement, i think he is only after shabu.

Shabu is poor man's drug, it can be had for like P200 or less. Why because it's synthetic. It is being cooked in a lab when the operators can scrimp on ingredients and therefore, causing brain damage making the poor commit those heinuous acts like homicide, robbery, rape etc


Very dangerous kasi talaga if the poor gets these things, a similar analogy is the PUV. The poor dont maintain their cars and therefore can cause accidents, while others who rent cars for a living has delicadeza to maintain their vehicles for fear of hurting someone.

Yan talaga ang tutoong reason, This is a purge, like the movies series Purge Anarchy and Election Year,

He beleives those who have been taking shabu for so long are beyond redemption and their heads and thoughts are destroyed na to function or contribute pa to society.

The president cannot just say he's after these people, coz he will be accused of discrimination which I think is far more worse issue than being an extrajudicial executioner,


Watch the TV series, The Strain and substitute the infected there with those minds inflicted by the cheap shabu drug. And you'll realize what we are into as a society and the danger it can pose when this is not controlled,

[screws]

That has always made me curious - before the Duterte campaign, the drug problem was never on the forefront of the ills that needed solving in our country.

For the longest time, poverty and corruption have been the biggest problems that needed to be addressed. Yet, during the Duterte campaign, 16M people were suddenly convinced that we needed to go on an all-out drug war.

I have always believed that drug use is correlated to poverty levels. The poorer a community, the higher their propensity to turn to drugs. Yet, this government prefers to hack off the branches rather then address the roots.

Perhaps if Duterte says that the problem is that people have too much freedom, everyone will buy into that as well, and wholeheartedly accept Martial Law.

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you see jut, the problem here is you look at this 16m who voted for him like how you see the world. to you poverty and corruption is the priority. how about with this people? probably many of this people have experience first hand what its like to live in a community with drug problem or what its like to lose someone dear to them through drugs. you can keep telling yourself poor people turn to drugs because of poverty. erradicate poverty and people will no longer turn to drugs. what happen to correlation does not imply causation?

lets be a fisherman for a while here. when a fisherman cast a net, he will get assortment of fishes in different sizes. the fisherman knows or have heard or have seen before that theres some huge ass fish in the pond but it is so elusive that it is so difficult to catch it. he is a fisherman and the fish is his only livelihood. so everyday he go to the same pond to catch fish. he doesnt care if he get the biggest one as long as he get something. eventually the number of fishes dwindles or he catches them all except the huge ass fish. which is wiser to do now? for the fisherman to keep going to same pond hoping one day he catch the big fish or to move to another pond? what do you think will happen to the big fish when theres nothing to feed on anymore?

you see, we all see the world differently. to you a tree without branches and leaves is still a tree. i dont know if i could call it the same. now if you think poverty and corruption is a problem, please help to do your part in solving this. there are probably millions more who believe the same. if this war on drugs is successful and your war on poverty and corruption is a success. imagine the paradise we would live in.

[minicarph]

you see jut, the problem here is you look at this 16m who voted for him like how you see the world. to you poverty and corruption is the priority. how about with this people? probably many of this people have experience first hand what its like to live in a community with drug problem or what its like to lose someone dear to them through drugs. you can keep telling yourself poor people turn to drugs because of poverty. erradicate poverty and people will no longer turn to drugs. what happen to correlation does not imply causation?

lets be a fisherman for a while here. when a fisherman cast a net, he will get assortment of fishes in different sizes. the fisherman knows or have heard or have seen before that theres some huge ass fish in the pond but it is so elusive that it is so difficult to catch it. he is a fisherman and the fish is his only livelihood. so everyday he go to the same pond to catch fish. he doesnt care if he get the biggest one as long as he get something. eventually the number of fishes dwindles or he catches them all except the huge ass fish. which is wiser to do now? for the fisherman to keep going to same pond hoping one day he catch the big fish or to move to another pond? what do you think will happen to the big fish when theres nothing to feed on anymore?

you see, we all see the world differently. to you a tree without branches and leaves is still a tree. i dont know if i could call it the same. now if you think poverty and corruption is a problem, please help to do your part in solving this. there are probably millions more who believe the same. if this war on drugs is successful and your war on poverty and corruption is a success. imagine the paradise we would live in.

Give a man a fish, he'll eat for a day. give a fish a man, it will eat for weeks,

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There is no paradise here on earth the moment Eve ate the apple and then share to Adam.

In some cultures, that is the reason why women are unequal to men as in the case in the Muslim world. in our Christian world, it's the same. We never gave much power to Women in the Christian rule in churches. even the Founding foreFathers of America, they did not totally acknowledge the role of women, are we hearing anything like the Founding moreMothers? Wala di ba?

It is interesting to note however, that it is only the Brits who glorified women. Ie. god save the queen, for queen and country and James Bond's M. I mean who does that, an elite intelligence unit MI6 whose leader is a woman. Almost thAt entire island in Europe is a controlled by the Hive,

But enough of that, what i'm pointing out here there are no such thing a perfect system. A perfect society that everyone is happy, peaceful, abundant and wise.

For all of those who try to achieve that, will be dissappointed, I guess that is what *screws is pointing out,

We live in an imperfect world, with different human beings. Hindi na natin ma-perfect pa yan.

What tatay digong is doing is just to make it liveable, and not live in a society where there is no order anymore, no decency. And that is the definition of s narco state . So be thankful that we have someone like him as a leader who is willing to do what we are afraid to do in an imperfect snd cruel world,


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If you are wrong, turn right.
If you are right, turn left.

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*minicarph. Just freaking turn to your right now! [emoji23]


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[anonemus]

to be f*cking honest, all this virtue signalling on recreational drug use as a crime is BS and hypocritical. first and foremost, it's a victimless crime. their addiction is already their punishment and why the heck would anyone have the moral authority to worsen their lives even further through incarceration and death?

before proclaiming to the world that you are against substance abuse, don't drink coffee or any caffeinated beverages. if you can't even manage that then face it, you're a f*cking hypocrite! you are drug dependent on a pyschoactive drug.

I absolutely agree, safeorigin. Harm Reduction is the key. Better to decriminalize illegal drugs like what Portugal did and now what the Thailand junta is seriously considering.

The most harmful addiction to others? Alcoholism. Shouldn't Digong start shooting alcoholics then?

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[ClaNker]

you see, we all see the world differently. to you a tree without branches and leaves is still a tree. i dont know if i could call it the same. now if you think poverty and corruption is a problem, please help to do your part in solving this. there are probably millions more who believe the same. if this war on drugs is successful and your war on poverty and corruption is a success. imagine the paradise we would live in.

You're right up there in OB alley.

[ClaNker]

I absolutely agree, safeorigin. Harm Reduction is the key. Better to decriminalize illegal drugs like what Portugal did and now what the Thailand junta is seriously considering.

The most harmful addiction to others? Alcoholism. Shouldn't Digong start shooting alcoholics then?

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Patayin ang mga lasengero, di tao ang mga yan!

[dreamur]

Screw, to use your analogy, I am not against fishing per se. What is abhorrent is how the fishing is being done by throwing a dynamite into the sea hoping it kills everyone including the big fish. In the process, the corals and the fingerling got killed in the process.

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[dreamur]

If only digong thinks like OB, we would have solved all this freaking problems by now!

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[shadow]

If only digong thinks like OB, we would have solved all this freaking problems by now!

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We should probably petition duts to appoint OB to a government position.


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[_Cathy_]

We should probably petition duts to appoint OB to a government position.


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I think that's possible considering the other cabinet appointees of Duterte. Hahaha.

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[dr. d]

We should probably petition duts to appoint OB to a government position.


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wag!
baka mapasubo sa trabaho.. hindi na maka-post dito.

[rambo149]

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Merry Christmas porkbarell! hahahaha tara lets

[niky]

Mayor linked to drugs implicates ex-justice chief: police

Ang pangit ng lyrics na kakantahin ni Espinosa.

Tapos yung mga Odicta, theory naman is ayaw kantahin yung pinapakanta sa kanila, kaya xxx.

And the family is not pushing for investigation into the deaths. For fear of the safety of the kids. Daw. Goodness knows what the real reason is.

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In the meantime... the PNP, DOJ and PDEA all deny coming up with the "Matrix".

One named personality is suggesting Dayan himself came up with it.

Jilted lover makes the ultimate flame letter?

I absolutely agree, safeorigin. Harm Reduction is the key. Better to decriminalize illegal drugs like what Portugal did and now what the Thailand junta is seriously considering.

The most harmful addiction to others? Alcoholism. Shouldn't Digong start shooting alcoholics then?

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I recall... all through the 80's and 90's... rape-slay = alcohol.

Unstable people are unstable, whatever "drug" they take.

Wrong priority pursuing the wrong war in the wrong way.

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Great post, that one. Have a link to the original?

to be f*cking honest, all this virtue signalling on recreational drug use as a crime is BS and hypocritical. first and foremost, it's a victimless crime. their addiction is already their punishment and why the heck would anyone have the moral authority to worsen their lives even further through incarceration and death?

before proclaiming to the world that you are against substance abuse, don't drink coffee or any caffeinated beverages. if you can't even manage that then face it, you're a f*cking hypocrite! you are drug dependent on a pyschoactive drug.

Considering I'm on several prescription medications, I'm a drug dependent, either way.

But yes, I do love my caffeine.

I figure the only real reason to ban anything is medical harm.

And since we still haven't banned cigarettes, banning anything else is rather hypocritical.

[_Cathy_]

Bato was live on ANC a few minutes ago. They confiscated 4.5M of gun parts in Bacolod with information coming from US Homeland Security. I'm not sure if I heard it right, but it came from balikbayan boxes. I heard another person say that it will be used to assasinate Duterte. WTF?!? You only need one gun to kill a person.

[ClaNker]

Bato was live on ANC a few minutes ago. They confiscated 4.5M of gun parts in Bacolod with information coming from US Homeland Security. I'm not sure if I heard it right, but it came from balikbayan boxes. I heard another person say that it will be used to assasinate Duterte. WTF?!? You only need one gun to kill a person.

US Homeland Security and Balikbayan Boxes. Yan lang ang kaya ng "Billion" na pinondo ng mga drug lords to kill PGong and Bato? Oh let's not forget the "Millions" paid to the media to destroy their war against drugs.

Matindi ang sayad ng Admin na to.