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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Without the surveys I would think dikit na laban or lamang na si Leni if I-based natin sa mga rallies but bakit hinde nakaka capture ng mga survey firms yun nakikita sa ground?


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    Ako tingin ko they kept on surveying the same areas and locality. Hindi naman sinasabi kung saan specifically eh. So may chance na hindi magbabago yan. Though if legit methodology, it would seem na talagang sa DE eh tambak si VP Leni kaya ganyan. Majority naman D kasi, yung mga E hindi naman halos bumoboto mga yan. I hope I am wrong though hehe

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    Ok I've heard of fanatics threatening to resign from their jobs, I even heard one who threatened to eat poop, but this one is...


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    Re: surveys pa rin - or why I don't trust False Asia surveys.





    I say False Asia, and to include Publicus, Tangere, Laylo and the likes.
    There's still a place for traditional polling with sound and scientific methodologies.
    But the most important thing is the integrity in its implementation.

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    Hindsight No. 16: The Long Game | Pinoy Penman 3.

    If Leni wins on May 9, it will be a historic and hard-won triumph, but one that will be immediately fraught with danger, as she will now have to fend off a spiteful and tenacious many-headed hydra that will not slink into the shadows. Her enemies will hound her every day of her presidency, bark at every move she makes, make it extremely difficult for her to govern properly, so they can substantiate their portrayal of her alleged inefficacy.

    If her adversary musters more votes, she will have lost a battle, but not the war this has become. Mind that just having celebrated her 57th birthday, Leni Robredo will only be 63 in 2028—younger than even Marcos Jr. is today. If she loses this election, it will not be the end, but only the start of the next stage of a protracted campaign to bring us back to good and honest governance.

    Six years may seem a long time, but it doesn’t feel like it was that long ago when Rodrigo R. Duterte came to power. These past six years have been among the most difficult and dismaying we have had to endure, not only because of the pandemic but also because of an equally devastating malignancy at the heart of government—leadership by fear, terror, and impunity; the patronage and enrichment of friends; the repression of dissent; and the subornation and corruption of the uniformed and civil service.

    In another six years, should the Marcos forces now prevail and if they stay true to form, they will have unraveled and self-destructed. We will not be surprised, but their followers will be, when the promised manna never rains, when the Palace is ruled by incompetence, indecision, and intrigue, when No. 2 chafes at her humble station, when China attacks and the First Family rushes off to Paraguay with half the treasury (nothing is too absurd in politics today), when citizens cry out for simple answers to urgent questions and are told, “The President is busy,” in a dull echo of his excuses for avoiding the debates.

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    Isa pa nakakalungkot, everybody was so worked up with BBM kaya nakalusot under the radar si Sara and Robin Padilla. They were given a pass dahil naka concentrate kay BBM.


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    Its not over until the Fat lady sings. diba nga.

    If as you say these Surveys are wrong and your candidate was able to pull off an upset then kudos to all of you.
    You have proven that Decades old institutions doing surveys are erroneous and should not be trusted.
    What other decades old beliefs and institution can you overthrow?

    And in the 2028 presidential election if your preferred candidate to succeed is leading the surveys the opposition can always rebut your claims that you yourself was able to produce an upset and that these surveys are wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Isa pa nakakalungkot, everybody was so worked up with BBM kaya nakalusot under the radar si Sara and Robin Padilla. They were given a pass dahil naka concentrate kay BBM.


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    Sara carries the Duterte name, that is enough. Robin? Si Bong Revilla nga na mas marami kalokohan at isyu nag-budots lang panalo na. Ganun kahina ang karamihan talaga ng Pinoy na bumuto. Hindi din kaya isa-isahin kalabanin kaya tingin ko tama lang na dun sa may malaking chance na may magagawa. President's position can re-align all those. The exceutive is the most powerful of all the branches of government. Yun na sa tingin ko tutok talaga.

    If VP Leni wins, mag-align lahat yan. Lalabas baho nila at mahihirapan sila maka-porma for the next national election. Lalo na kung maayos talaga pamamalakad. Moreso at alam na kung papano lalabanan fake news and revisionism.

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    another leaked SWS survey..


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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    another leaked SWS survey..

    i wonder,
    why did it have to be "leaked" ?
    why not just publish it fair and square ?

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    wala kasi nagbayad for them to do this.. walang sponsor..


    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    i wonder,
    why did it have to be "leaked" ?
    why not just publish it fair and square ?

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    Akala ko hinde mag survey ngayon SWS dahil wala sila media partner?

    Then ang naglabas pala niyang eh si Tony Contreras or something, before that nag preparasyon na yun ibang vloggers ni BBM na kaya daw walang nilalabas na survey SWS dahil alam daw ng Camp ni Leni na bumaba siya to 18% tapos biglang meron pala silang leaked document.

    Si SWS lang naman pwede magsabi kung totoo or hinde eh, let's wait for their statement.

    Ewan ko talaga bakit hinde ma capture ng surveys yun mga tao nakikita nag attend ng rallies ni Leni.

    I want to believe na nag take na talaga yun mga rallies at nakakuha na ng mga supporters and surveys are wrong but a part of me also think too little, too late talaga yun campaign nila.
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    Last edited by shadow; May 4th, 2022 at 09:52 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    wala kasi nagbayad for them to do this.. walang sponsor..
    so, they made a survey, without their getting paid to do it.
    so why "leak" ?
    just say, "here're the results. we're giving it away for free."
    kapag "leak" kasi, i would suspect an ulterior motive.
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    they will deny na galing sa kanila yan.. baka nagbayad nang small amount yung pinagbigyan nila.. na nag leak naman nyan...

    their last official survey (paid) eh nung December 2021 pa.


    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    so, they made a survey, without their getting paid to do it.
    so why "leak" ?
    just say, "here're the results. we're giving it away for free."
    kapag "leak" kasi, there's an ulterior motive suspected.

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    Same sa sinabi ni Romulo Virola na over and underrepresentation ng socio economic and age groups. screenshot_20220504_094005.jpgfb_img_1651628384070.jpg

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    they will deny na galing sa kanila yan.. baka nagbayad nang small amount yung pinagbigyan nila.. na nag leak naman nyan...

    their last official survey (paid) eh nung December 2021 pa.
    ah,yess..
    that's the advantage of a "leak".
    if it is received hotly, "hey! it's our work! congratulate us"
    kapag controversial, "we deny it!"
    it's a win-win situation!
    heh heh.

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    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    they will deny na galing sa kanila yan.. baka nagbayad nang small amount yung pinagbigyan nila.. na nag leak naman nyan...

    their last official survey (paid) eh nung December 2021 pa.
    Pero nakaka duda naman talaga yun PA last survey, Lacson 0% sa vis-min? Sino ba ang na survey nila doon?


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    I thought there is a law against releasing survey results a week before the election?

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