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    #3881
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Hahaha, research pa more, mas nauna ang pag-uusap para sa united front kesa sa pag-declare ni Isko. Narrative lang nila yan.

    Yes Leni does not want to run as much as possible as the lead in the opposition pero active siya to have a truly united front. Kaso sa meetings leading up to filing of candidacy clear naman na minions yung iba or hindi sang-ayon sa prinsipyo ni VP Leni. 2020 pa actually yan pinag-uusapan ang united front, hindi 2021 lang if you know how real politics here in the Philippines work.
    Nagagalit ang mga kalaban ni Leni dahil she is only running daw to prevent Marcos from winning? Eh bakit walang nagreklamo niyan nung tumakbo si Digong primarily to prevent Grace Poe (alleged to be an American citizen or at least married to one) from winning?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post
    Hahaha, research pa more, mas nauna ang pag-uusap para sa united front kesa sa pag-declare ni Isko. Narrative lang nila yan.

    Yes Leni does not want to run as much as possible as the lead in the opposition pero active siya to have a truly united front. Kaso sa meetings leading up to filing of candidacy clear naman na minions yung iba or hindi sang-ayon sa prinsipyo ni VP Leni. 2020 pa actually yan pinag-uusapan ang united front, hindi 2021 lang if you know how real politics here in the Philippines work.
    they failed to form a united front

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    #3883
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Nagagalit ang mga kalaban ni Leni dahil she is only running daw to prevent Marcos from winning? Eh bakit walang nagreklamo niyan nung tumakbo si Digong primarily to prevent Grace Poe (alleged to be an American citizen or at least married to one) from winning?
    i didn't know that!

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    #3884
    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    they failed to form a united front
    That's one POV.

    Another POV is that to each his own. May kanya-kanyang agenda naman talaga.

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    #3886
    A Call for Fraud-free Election

    We, Generals, Admirals, Officers, Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airmen - all Warriors and Veterans, support a clean, honest, and fraud-free election of candidates who shall become our national and local leaders.

    We believe that election is the true representation of democracy. As such, we ask all candidates to make a strong commitment not to cheat, and neither allow cheating nor fraud to happen.

    We demand that Comelec and Smartmatic ensure that there is no tampering of the automated election system, and that strict mechanisms be put in place and observed to prevent cheating.

    We trust and support the policy statement of the President and Commander-in-Chief that no cheating shall be committed before, during, and after election day.

    We abhor and rebuke foreign intervention in purely domestic matters and in the exercise of our inalienable right to choose our leaders.

    We call on the Comelec, Smartmatic, the candidates and the President to reject and deny foreign intervention in whatever form, manually, digitally, electronically, or otherwise.

    We will protect our votes and shall hold accountable all those who will subvert our will, the sectors we represent, and the Filipino voters.
    -excerpt

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    Quote Originally Posted by TopEngine View Post
    A Call for Fraud-free Election

    We, Generals, Admirals, Officers, Soldiers, Sailors, Marines, and Airmen - all Warriors and Veterans, support a clean, honest, and fraud-free election of candidates who shall become our national and local leaders.

    We believe that election is the true representation of democracy. As such, we ask all candidates to make a strong commitment not to cheat, and neither allow cheating nor fraud to happen.

    We demand that Comelec and Smartmatic ensure that there is no tampering of the automated election system, and that strict mechanisms be put in place and observed to prevent cheating.

    We trust and support the policy statement of the President and Commander-in-Chief that no cheating shall be committed before, during, and after election day.

    We abhor and rebuke foreign intervention in purely domestic matters and in the exercise of our inalienable right to choose our leaders.

    We call on the Comelec, Smartmatic, the candidates and the President to reject and deny foreign intervention in whatever form, manually, digitally, electronically, or otherwise.

    We will protect our votes and shall hold accountable all those who will subvert our will, the sectors we represent, and the Filipino voters.
    -excerpt
    You forgot to post this also sa Ping Lacson thread.

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    #3888
    And like clockwork


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    #3889
    nag 3rd pa si pacquiao?

    so yung mga na turn off kay Isko lumipat kay pacman..


    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    And like clockwork


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    #3890
    breakdown per location:


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    VP race


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    #3892
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    And like clockwork

    Ayaw ko paniwalaan but on the other hand, I can't have double standard and be selective,

    Dahil naniwala ako sa last survey that showed Leni increased by 9% then ngayon dahil no movement sasabihin ko fake itong result.

    But iba yun nakikita sa ground eh, bakit hinde ma capture ng mga survey yun?


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    Without the surveys I would think dikit na laban or lamang na si Leni if I-based natin sa mga rallies but bakit hinde nakaka capture ng mga survey firms yun nakikita sa ground?


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    #3895
    Can somebody please post yun 2016 na mga surveys ng VP? Kailan dumikit si Leni kay BBM during that time?

    Saka anong number nun parehong week na kinuha nun 2016 ng April 16-21 din?
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    #3896
    so kung fake ang surveys.. bakit last 3 presidential elections na predict nila yung winner??

    sa VP naman last 2016, BBM and Leni were statistically tied nung last survey before the election..

    Quote Originally Posted by _Qwerty_ View Post
    So are surveys accurate?

    2016
    President - Actual votes were 39% vs 33% surveys for Duterte / Roxas is pretty accurate at 22-20-23 and Poe at 21-22-21
    VP Race - based on SWS, Leni and BBM were statistically tied at 28% and 29%




    2010
    President - It was accurate 39-42-42 for Pnoy
    VP - Binay got more at 42 vs 28 and 37 on surveys



    2004
    President - GMA got 37-37-40
    VP - Kabayan got 46-43-50


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    #3897
    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Ayaw ko paniwalaan but on the other hand, I can't have double standard and be selective,

    Dahil naniwala ako sa last survey that showed Leni increased by 9% then ngayon dahil no movement sasabihin ko fake itong result.

    But iba yun nakikita sa ground eh, bakit hinde ma capture ng mga survey yun?


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    No 2 supporters are more passionate in showing their support, I see that, doing H2H, Mall campaigning, rallies, etc.
    The frontrunner consistently leading voter's preference since surveys started. The supporters are more complacent maybe.

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    #3898
    Quote Originally Posted by Yatta View Post
    Nagagalit ang mga kalaban ni Leni dahil she is only running daw to prevent Marcos from winning? Eh bakit walang nagreklamo niyan nung tumakbo si Digong primarily to prevent Grace Poe (alleged to be an American citizen or at least married to one) from winning?
    DU30 has been going around the country since the early 2010's under the guise of promoting Federalization but ultimately it was to gauge his chances of getting into Malacanang.

    I heard that in news during the campaign in 2016 but it never caught on unlike Leni's campaign to try to prevent BBM from reaching Malacanag.

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    #3899
    Bakit ang laki ng difference ni Isko sa tangerine and Pulse asia?


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    Quote Originally Posted by shadow View Post
    Bakit ang laki ng difference ni Isko sa tangerine and Pulse asia?


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    Hindi legit yang Tangere lol. It's an app na ang makakaboto lang yung may alam niyan. Walang methodology.

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