Plug (pasak) then Patch (tapal) on tire?

[oj88]

Ummm, dashcams?

[Miles_on]

I know OT na but...

Ever see one of those white fuel tankers marked "JET A1 FUEL"? "Flammable"

Sa may Paco... nakaopen yung window sa cab ng truck driver. Ayun ang mokong, pa-yosi yosi pa, smiling like an idiot to himself

Pero wala naman nangyayari right? HAHAHAHA!
Malakas lang talaga ata awa ng Dios sa ating mga `Pinoy.

[dr. d]

I know OT na but...

Ever see one of those white fuel tankers marked "JET A1 FUEL"? "Flammable"

Sa may Paco... nakaopen yung window sa cab ng truck driver. Ayun ang mokong, pa-yosi yosi pa, smiling like an idiot to himself

Pero wala naman nangyayari right? HAHAHAHA!
Malakas lang talaga ata awa ng Dios sa ating mga `Pinoy.

if the boss sees it..
"he's fired!"
heh heh.

[k_leos]

there is a maximum puncture diameter, beyond which the tyre is unsafe for repair by patch.
when the tyre man says so, i follow his advise.
none of my cold patches have failed, yet.

sidewall punctures... by my experience, they're not typically 'round and small'. mine have been gaping wounds.
unsafe for repair.
"too much flexing" for any repair to hold.

Actually that afternoon after the kamuning repair center put oil in the plug. I called up a vulganizing shop. At first, sabi nya malaki daw if kasing laki ng screw driver hole, but afterwards said, he will try to patch even malaki. It's like gawin ako guinea pig for experiment, bahala na what would happen (at least meron sya earning for the day).

Also do you know that when installing mushroom patch, one has to make the hole big by drilling it. That's why need ko talaga yun shop meron na experienced putting a mushroom patch. Kasi mahirap experiment and him learning it at my expense. Haven't you personally seen this thing before.



This is the only legal way to repair cars in other countries. But by creating much larger holes than the nail, I don't know ano unseen consequences. More belt/plies fibers may get damaged though, perhaps diminishing stability of the spot? So the glue in the mushroom head must be able to hold it together.

[gearhead000]

Having almost all my damaged tires been patched rather than plugged, I still have more confidence with it. Plugged... not so much. Yung mushroom type na yan I think kelangan ng experienced mechanic/ vulcanizer to do that correctly.

[Syuryuken]

Does anyone know where to buy this locally?

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It's not available at lazada local but overseas and will take more than a week to arrive.

Does anyone have this? It is 468 pesos for 24 pcs or 20 pesos a piece. I can buy it for 100 a piece ok lang or you can give to me if you (anyone) has extra

Got mine from Shoppee with 4 different sizes

[k_leos]

I found out there was a way to find out the date exact manufacturing week and year. But it is mostly US tires where there is a DOT (Department of Transportation) and 12 digit with the last four the week and year of manufacture.

In case of Japanese Yokohama Tires. There is the following code but some website said it was the serial number, although one mentioned it could be manufactured date.





It's written YYY0216. Does it mean manufacture in second week of 2016? And this week is the exact 6th year.

Or is it just a coincidence. I bought the car around May of 2016. So they could have install it maybe January of 2016.

Did your Yokohama tires also have the codes corresponding to the year you bought the car?

My Honda CRV Michelin tires also have this code.



It means made in 21th week of year 2015?


It seems to be present in none US tires. So please check if your tires brand also have it and corresponds to the year it was bought or just serial number lang.


Also I used to think electronic Automatic Tyre Pressure Monitoring System is built in into the car. I won't be buy new cars for the next 10 years, but found out it can be installed. What is the most accurate and best Automatic Tyre Pressure Monitoring System ba you used and heard?

And what brands of wheels compatible to them? My wheel is 225/60 R17 and wants to buy a brand compatible with these digital monitoring system. What can you recommend?

New year. New tyres with state of the art monitoring system that can tell you if the 32 psi goes down to 30 psi, etc.. Not bad idea.

[oj88]

^ There's already a thread for that: When Do You Replace Tires?

[k_leos]

Got mine from Shoppee with 4 different sizes

As gearhead000 said, dapat "experienced mechanic/ vulcanizer to do that correctly".

Question, when you first went to Yokohawa service center to have the mushroom patch installed, did the mechanic wonder paano install or ask you how, or did he just get it and install it without asking (meaning experienced installer na done it many times before)?



Did he put any sealant around the mushroom patch after the mushroom head attached with rubber cement? It can't just be any sealant like silicon sealant, but one compatible with the application, what sealant is exactly used in tire patch? For all my previous internal patches, they never used sealant around it.

If it's secret, pls. dm me the Yokohama service center branch familiar with mushroom patch. Thanks.

[dr. d]

there's no secret to tyre repair.
but there are "tamads".

[k_leos]

there's no secret to tyre repair.
but there are "tamads".

The reamer part is one of the most important. In my case. Technician didnt use the reamer in the kit. Maybe he lost it. Purpose of reamer is to make hole big enough for string plug to fit. He used screw driver (as shown in my previous picture) to puncture the belt/ply but the rubber part didnt get bigger. That was why he couldnt insert the plug and had to use oil as lubricant. Dapat bumili sila ng reamer.

In case of string repair plug kit. Meron kasama reamer tool sa kit. But in the mushroom patch. Wala kasama reamer so dapat alam ng technician size ng hole. This is the reason experienced dapat ang technician sa mushroom. If 6mm ang stem ng mushroom. Dapat exactly 6mm rin drill bit?

Even if buy ako new tire. Dapat ma repair tama yun tire para sa reserva or in case bili ng tallier and kabit sa iba. Before I bought used tires (oblong na pala, dapat maging illegal old tire shop 'no).

By the way, I read in the subaru manual wag change one tire ng unit only because madamage ang so called drive train ng AWD. Walang AWD car mo?

Sabi ng isang website "Replacing just one or two tires on an AWD vehicle could cause unnecessary wear and tear on your drivetrain, or confuse the traction control system to think that you are frequently losing traction. A new tire is larger in diameter than one of the same brand, type and size that's part way through its tread life.".

So if wala competent mushroom repair dito. Im forced to buy 4 new tyres just because hindi tama yun pasak ginawa sa akin with oil added. Puwede pa dapat 10 yrs tires ko.

Add on ba automatic tire pressure monitoring system mo or built in? Ano best brand and model na add on?

[Dr.Kamiya]

By the way, I read in the subaru manual wag change one tire ng unit only because madamage ang so called drive train ng AWD. Walang AWD car mo?

Sabi ng isang website "Replacing just one or two tires on an AWD vehicle could cause unnecessary wear and tear on your drivetrain, or confuse the traction control system to think that you are frequently losing traction. A new tire is larger in diameter than one of the same brand, type and size that's part way through its tread life.".

Tire Rack in the states will shave a tire down for you so you don't need to replace all four if you only need one. Pag order mo you specify what the tread depth is on your other three tires and they shave the new tire down to match.

Ewan ko lang if there's any store that does this locally.

[k_leos]

Last December 28 when I had the pasak (with oil added to the hole) done. The technician used an impact wrench. I couldn't find at google the estimated torque for this nor find the information in thread search dito sa tsikot. So I want to ask. What is the estimated torque of the impact wrench used? What size is the impact wrench used?

After that. I bought a torque wrench at lazada to check the nuts are at least 120 newton.meter or 88 ft. foot torque and because I realized naka attached lang wheel mo sa 5 nuts. So it's good to check from time to time kung tama torque ng nuts or naka tighten.

Bukas when I try to have the pasak repair hole repaired or replaced. I want to make sure tama torque used. So this message is related to pasak subject.

I have used torque tool before, it is very useful. I used a torque screw driver in tightening the Siemens circuit breakers with GFCI after the Meiji receptacle GFCI kept tripping sa electric fan or waterpick motor. I may be one of the few houses in the country with complete GFCI circuit breakers installed at house.

Another concern. Naka experience kayo na using the car included screw jack and na fall yun car while using changing tire (at street or at time when changing spare tires for example)? I'm justifying whether I should buy a jack stand or puwede na gamit yun screw car jack for very rare time you will change a tire.



The questions are all related to pasak because these procedures are used in pasak shops so I don't want to start a new thread but just getting some quick answers here so I know if my first online purchase this year will be a jack stand that I'll use only once in the next 10 years. Hassle to put it in the car trunk at all times? Thanks.

[shadow]

Ano ulit ang problema dito? Paikot-ikot na lang yun kwento.


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[k_leos]

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My questions.

1. Ano torques used in the impact wrench? Is it hydraulic? Kasi if ma overtighten ang nuts ay mabasag nuts (masira rin yun bolts)?

2. Very necessary ang car stand? Kasi I haven't used the car since Dec 28. Bukas balak ko palit reserba na tire before going to the service center pero ordinary screw car jack lang gamit ko. Hindi pa ako naka palit tire so I wonder if ma slip yun screw car jack and absolutely necessary to buy a car stand and put under the suspensions.

My last questions po. Hehe. Sori for the questions but I have been googling it yesterday and couldn't find the answers especially the torques of the impact wrench used and what wattage (based on the video).

[Yatta]

My questions.

1. Ano torques used in the impact wrench? Is it hydraulic? Kasi if ma overtighten ang nuts ay mabasag nuts (masira rin yun bolts)?

2. Very necessary ang car stand? Kasi I haven't used the car since Dec 28. Bukas balak ko palit reserba na tire before going to the service center pero ordinary screw car jack lang gamit ko. Hindi pa ako naka palit tire so I wonder if ma slip yun screw car jack and absolutely necessary to buy a car stand and put under the suspensions.

My last questions po. Hehe. Sori for the questions but I have been googling it yesterday and couldn't find the answers especially the torques of the impact wrench used and what wattage (based on the video).

1. Not sure what the torque is, alam ko they just run the wrench (I know its compressed air-driven) till it can't spin anymore. Cons lang niyan sa sobrang sikip, ang hirap na baklasin by hand (happened to me to the point the lugnuts got rounded and I had to use a chisel to just break it).

2. Kung sandali lang naman like changing a tire, ok lang wala, especially if screw-type yun jack. Delikado kapag extended work gagawin mo and yung hydraulic-type/bottle jack, dahil baka bigla tumagas/leak yung seals.

[dr. d]

my apologies for posting this,

you've owned a car for six years now,...
you should youtube for videos on how to change a flat tyre.

[uls]

ay juice ko magpapalit lang ng reserba kailangan pa ng jack stand?

[oj88]

Scissor jacks are relatively safe for emergency use (as in, low duty cycle use) such as changing a flat. For prolonged work or frequent use, alligator jack + jack stands. Particularly when working on brakes or suspension parts.

The thing that people forget is to put wheel chocks on the other tires. For example is when servicing rear tires on a rear-drive vehicle. Walang lock yung front tires so it's critical that they are chocked.

[dr. d]

Scissor jacks are relatively safe for emergency use (as in, low duty cycle use) such as changing a flat. For prolonged work or frequent use, alligator jack + jack stands. Particularly when working on brakes or suspension parts.

The thing that people forget is to put wheel chocks on the other tires. For example is when servicing rear tires on a rear-drive vehicle. Walang lock yung front tires so it's critical that they are chocked.

i have a pair of wooden dos-por-cuatros in my rear trunk.
very useful, especially when the surface in question is not perfectly flat.