New Mitsubishi Montero Sport [ARCHIVED]

[fermontalban]

Out of curiousity, how is the immobilizer enabled/disabled?

You have to you use the keyless entry to disable the immobilizer?
There is a sensor that detects the OEM key or the keyless remote? (there is something in the key/remote?)
If you open the door locks with the key, you can't start the vehicle?

And also...
Do anyone of you know of a shop who has the template for the floor matting of the Montero sport? Since we got our Montero and the rains started, it's been really difficult keeping the floor clean. We only have the 5pc 3M Nomad matting pre-cut for sedans and sadly some parts are not covered. I would buy the 5pc mat sold by the casa if it is indeed a good fit but sadly it is made of fabric. I really want a Nomad type of matting. It doesn't matter if it is a 3pc or a 5pc set, all I need is a good fit.

[j@sto]

Out of curiousity, how is the immobilizer enabled/disabled?

You have to you use the keyless entry to disable the immobilizer?
There is a sensor that detects the OEM key or the keyless remote? (there is something in the key/remote?)
If you open the door locks with the key, you can't start the vehicle?

And also...
Do anyone of you know of a shop who has the template for the floor matting of the Montero sport? Since we got our Montero and the rains started, it's been really difficult keeping the floor clean. We only have the 5pc 3M Nomad matting pre-cut for sedans and sadly some parts are not covered. I would buy the 5pc mat sold by the casa if it is indeed a good fit but sadly it is made of fabric. I really want a Nomad type of matting. It doesn't matter if it is a 3pc or a 5pc set, all I need is a good fit.

from wikipedia...
An immobiliser or immobilizer is an electronic device fitted to an automobile which prevents the engine from running unless the correct key (or other token) is present. This prevents the car from being "hot wired" after entry has been achieved.

every ms key (which has embedded chip inside the rubber head) are programmed specifically on each unit. you can't start the engine using an ordinary key (copied). copied key can only be used to open the door but can't be used to start the engine. it is a feature that will deter carnappers so why disable?

[XTO]

sir howie for me 35w china/taiwan/branded(but sill its china/taiwan but the difference is maganda ang market nito) has a little difference in light to a 50w hid kit. im using taiwan hid kits for around 6 years na in my van (head/fog lamps) nung pinag tabi ko yung branded hid 50w ng tropa halos parehas lang gusto ko na din mag palit nun ng 50w but my tropa selling accessories told me hindi na neccessary good thing mahina din kumain ng kuryente ang 35 watts good for my loaded vehicle ....

for me konti lang naman difference ng 35w - 50w in light even branded ones pero kaw na din mag dedecide kung ano talaga gusto mo heheheh ..... but i heard din sa tropa ko may ilalabas daw sya 70w hid kit taiwan made siguro naka shades ka na sa loob + tint makaka pag drive ka pa sa gabi ....

+1 here preference lang mga sirs. what is important is the right chosen color temperature. so choose the right and most effective to each one's look

[fermontalban]

from wikipedia...
An immobiliser or immobilizer is an electronic device fitted to an automobile which prevents the engine from running unless the correct key (or other token) is present. This prevents the car from being "hot wired" after entry has been achieved.

every ms key (which has embedded chip inside the rubber head) are programmed specifically on each unit. you can't start the engine using an ordinary key (copied). copied key can only be used to open the door but can't be used to start the engine. it is a feature that will deter carnappers so why disable?

I never actually wanted to disable the immobilizer. I sort of know what an immobilzer is, but I was curious as to when the immobilizer is enabled or disable, i.e. when does the car know that you are using the right key (disable the immobilizer) or the wrong key (enable the immobilizer).

So there is a chip inside the rubber head. So I'm guessing there is a sensor somewhere in the key slot?

I got confused, because I was reading the Code Alarm owner's manual and one of the features is "starter disable" which I assume is the same as the immobilizer. Correct me if I am wrong, I thought Code Alarm and the OEM key to the Montero is independent from each other, as Code Alarm is just an add-on accessory to our car just like the JVC HU. So initially, I thought the immobilizer is controlled by the keyless entry.

By the way, the reason I was reading the Code Alarm manual is because I wanted to disable the passive/automatic arming feature of the alarm. Sadly, it's not there. Does anyone know how to do it without going to the casa? Do it safely of course? I'd rather go to the casa than fumble with the alarm myself unless it's as simple as putting the alarm in valet mode. TIA.

[j@sto]

[j@sto]

lesson learned: mind my own ms

[chng238]

[quote=fermontalban;1290860]Out of curiousity, how is the immobilizer enabled/disabled?

You have to you use the keyless entry to disable the immobilizer?
There is a sensor that detects the OEM key or the keyless remote? (there is something in the key/remote?)
If you open the door locks with the key, you can't start the vehicle?

HI sir,

As i understand about immobilizer from my ex Audi A6, it was a chip embeded inside the car key...every time when you start the engine, the sensor will sense the chip inside the key...when the code is correct, it will not cut the engine...

My experience was i use the spare key,made from outside store, it can start the engine, but it was cut off after 1 mins....so the the spare key sayang..

[XTO]

I never actually wanted to disable the immobilizer. I sort of know what an immobilzer is, but I was curious as to when the immobilizer is enabled or disable, i.e. when does the car know that you are using the right key (disable the immobilizer) or the wrong key (enable the immobilizer).

So there is a chip inside the rubber head. So I'm guessing there is a sensor somewhere in the key slot?

I got confused, because I was reading the Code Alarm owner's manual and one of the features is "starter disable" which I assume is the same as the immobilizer. Correct me if I am wrong, I thought Code Alarm and the OEM key to the Montero is independent from each other, as Code Alarm is just an add-on accessory to our car just like the JVC HU. So initially, I thought the immobilizer is controlled by the keyless entry.

By the way, the reason I was reading the Code Alarm manual is because I wanted to disable the passive/automatic arming feature of the alarm. Sadly, it's not there. Does anyone know how to do it without going to the casa? Do it safely of course? I'd rather go to the casa than fumble with the alarm myself unless it's as simple as putting the alarm in valet mode. TIA.

it's there . from the disarmed condition, turn the ignition to on position > press and hold the valet push-button switch for a few seconds or until the light becomes steady. rearming it, press and release the button switch anytime while the ignition is on.

[JPG111]

I met up with sir ching earlier this morning at bigberts to discuss things about our club's planned roadtrip.. Further details will be discussed in this thread on the coming days..

Sir ching thanks for bringing to your office & showing me your water vendo machines.. I had a great time sir

thanks also for the lunch treat at the taiwanese resto

[Pinoy Discus]

Hi Guys,

After the ordeal of forced accessory purchase plus absorbing the price increase plus the month long wait plus the "false promises of having a unit ready but it was given to someone else due to a misunderstanding..."

I think I will finally have my Monty delivered to me this coming Thursday... *keeps fingers crossed*... My question guys, if anyone would be kind enough to chime in is regarding the tint for my Sedona Red Monty...

I asked for super black for the side and rear windows and a one piece medium black tint for the windshield... However, my SA is insisting that the "super black" tint costs more and I'll have to shell out more money as it is outside of their usual rate for dark tints... (As if I haven't shelled out enough money, tsk, tsk)

I just want to get your opinion, for those who have had their Monty's tinted at the dealer prior to delivery if this is true or am I being fed another load of bullcr*p... (excuse the language)...

Your advice would be really appreciated!

Thanks in advance and I hope that I'm welcome to join the club once I get the Monty...

Regards

[chng238]

Hi to all friends of Montero,

I just have lunch EB with sir JPG, we plan to have our first road trip coming Sept, location shall be Baguio, the details will be provide by JPG this afternoon or tonight.....

We really hope our friends here can provide more input to make our first road trip successful and wonderful one.....
Thank you

[chng238]

I met up with sir ching earlier this morning at bigberts to discuss things about our club's planned roadtrip.. Further details will be discussed in this thread on the coming days..

Sir ching thanks for bringing to your office & showing me your water vendo machines.. I had a great time sir

thanks also for the lunch treat at the taiwanese resto

Hi sir JPG, i thought you still on the way back, you told me your average speed in city was 5 KM per hour ????

Please post the details na, many of our friends expecting. please sir.....

[chng238]

Hi Guys,

After the ordeal of forced accessory purchase plus absorbing the price increase plus the month long wait plus the "false promises of having a unit ready but it was given to someone else due to a misunderstanding..."

I think I will finally have my Monty delivered to me this coming Thursday... *keeps fingers crossed*... My question guys, if anyone would be kind enough to chime in is regarding the tint for my Sedona Red Monty...

I asked for super black for the side and rear windows and a one piece medium black tint for the windshield... However, my SA is insisting that the "super black" tint costs more and I'll have to shell out more money as it is outside of their usual rate for dark tints... (As if I haven't shelled out enough money, tsk, tsk)

I just want to get your opinion, for those who have had their Monty's tinted at the dealer prior to delivery if this is true or am I being fed another load of bullcr*p... (excuse the language)...

Your advice would be really appreciated!

Thanks in advance and I hope that I'm welcome to join the club once I get the Monty...

Regards

Welcome to Montero thread, and please do join our EB and road trip....

As for the tint, I have super black for all rear, for front and windscreen was Med black provided by casa free.......

But now a day, maybe because of the high demand, the condition maybe change, please talk to you SA agin...

[Darwin_cd]

Immobilizer World: To all Montero Sprot Owners.. Thanks to XTO.

[quote=XTO;1290593]

honestly, i don't know if the 4X2 has it. sir you can e-mail the MMPC or ask your SA. but my magaling na SA texted me that my unit doesn't have it and if i wish to have one, it will cost less than 10K but when i e-mailed the MMPC, that was their reply

Reply from MMPC / HARRY:

From: "h-ilan*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph" <h-ilan*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph>
To: Darwin Castro <darwin_cd*yahoo.com>
Cc: d-doctor*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph; f-zafra*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 6:22:08 AM
Subject: Re: Montero Sport 4x2 A/T Immobilizer?


[SIZE=2]Dear Darwin,[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Thank you for your follow up query regarding the immobilizer system and please find below our reply to your concern.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]1. What about for MS 4x2 A/T? does it have engine immobilizer?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Yes, the New Mitsubishi Montero Sports 4X2 AT is also equipped with immobilizer system.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]2. Whats the purpose of the immobilizer? [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]The purpose of the immobilizer is to prevent the engine from starting the vehicle if a key other than the key which is registered for the vehicle is used after an attemp to start the vehicle after force entry.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Where it was installed and located?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]The immobilizer is located and installed in the ignition key cylinder.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]3. How it will function / its work?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]The immobilizer works when the ignition key is turned ON. The registered ignition key transmits its own key ID via radio wave. Tthe immobilizer controls the vehicle starting sytem to function when the sent key ID agrees with the pre-registered one. Two ignition keys are provided, and up to eight keys can be registered to one vehicle as needed.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]4. How to test the immobilizer on MS 4x2 A/T unit?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Vehicle with immobilizer system will not start using an unregistered key.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]We hope that the above have adressed your concern and thank you very much for visiting our website.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Sincerely,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]
[/SIZE]
Sincerely,
HARRY B. ILAN
Customer Service Department
Mitsubishi Motor Philippines Corporation
Ortigas Ext., Cainta Rizal
Tel. No. 658-0719, 658-0106 loc. 236
h-ilan*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph

[chng238]

[quote=Darwin_cd;1290992]Immobilizer World: To all Montero Sprot Owners.. Thanks to XTO.

Reply from MMPC / HARRY:

From: "h-ilan*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph" <h-ilan*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph>
To: Darwin Castro <darwin_cd*yahoo.com>
Cc: d-doctor*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph; f-zafra*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph
Sent: Tuesday, August 4, 2009 6:22:08 AM
Subject: Re: Montero Sport 4x2 A/T Immobilizer?


[SIZE=2]Dear Darwin,[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Thank you for your follow up query regarding the immobilizer system and please find below our reply to your concern.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]1. What about for MS 4x2 A/T? does it have engine immobilizer?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Yes, the New Mitsubishi Montero Sports 4X2 AT is also equipped with immobilizer system.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]2. Whats the purpose of the immobilizer? [/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]The purpose of the immobilizer is to prevent the engine from starting the vehicle if a key other than the key which is registered for the vehicle is used after an attemp to start the vehicle after force entry.[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Where it was installed and located?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]The immobilizer is located and installed in the ignition key cylinder.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]3. How it will function / its work?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]The immobilizer works when the ignition key is turned ON. The registered ignition key transmits its own key ID via radio wave. Tthe immobilizer controls the vehicle starting sytem to function when the sent key ID agrees with the pre-registered one. Two ignition keys are provided, and up to eight keys can be registered to one vehicle as needed.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]4. How to test the immobilizer on MS 4x2 A/T unit?[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]Vehicle with immobilizer system will not start using an unregistered key.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]We hope that the above have adressed your concern and thank you very much for visiting our website.[/SIZE]

[SIZE=2]Sincerely,[/SIZE]
[SIZE=2]
[/SIZE]
Sincerely,
HARRY B. ILAN
Customer Service Department
Mitsubishi Motor Philippines Corporation
Ortigas Ext., Cainta Rizal
Tel. No. 658-0719, 658-0106 loc. 236
h-ilan*mitsubishi-motors.com.ph

Outstanding sir Darwin, you do allot of home work....

Thank you for the answer, and hope our friends here, dont sayang the money for extra spare key like me before...hahaha

[Pinoy Discus]

Welcome to Montero thread, and please do join our EB and road trip....

As for the tint, I have super black for all rear, for front and windscreen was Med black provided by casa free.......

But now a day, maybe because of the high demand, the condition maybe change, please talk to you SA agin...

Thanks Sir Chng238 for the kind reply... I'm trying to convince my SA to give me the same deal because I had waived the visor already as it is part of the accessory package which I had already paid for...

Wish me luck and I appreciate the warm welcome.

I look forward to joining the club's EB's and road trips in the future...

Kind regards

[JPG111]

Hi Guys,

I asked for super black for the side and rear windows and a one piece medium black tint for the windshield... However, my SA is insisting that the "super black" tint costs more and I'll have to shell out more money as it is outside of their usual rate for dark tints... (As if I haven't shelled out enough money, tsk, tsk)

I just want to get your opinion, for those who have had their Monty's tinted at the dealer prior to delivery if this is true or am I being fed another load of bullcr*p... (excuse the language)...

Your advice would be really appreciated!

Thanks in advance and I hope that I'm welcome to join the club once I get the Monty...

Regards

Yes sir they ask for extra charge if you choose "super black" , Free tint only applies for the medium black on side/rear windows & visor .. I had my windshield tinted 1 piece at winterpine..

You're most welcome to join MSCP .. Enjoy your monty :thumbup:

Hi to all friends of Montero,

I just have lunch EB with sir JPG, we plan to have our first road trip coming Sept, location shall be Baguio, the details will be provide by JPG this afternoon or tonight.....

We really hope our friends here can provide more input to make our first road trip successful and wonderful one.....
Thank you

Hopefully we'll have an EB this month to discuss things with other members about our roadtrip to baguio on sept.. To be discussed are places to go in between stops going to baguio like in tarlac or pangasinan.. Any more ideas guys, nothings final pa naman eh..

[stubby]

it's there . from the disarmed condition, turn the ignition to on position > press and hold the valet push-button switch for a few seconds or until the light becomes steady. rearming it, press and release the button switch anytime while the ignition is on.

xto sir...i believe the first procedure you stated puts the alarm in valet mode, not for disabling the passive arming feature. done this so many times already whenever i wash my monty coz of the repeated opening/closing of doors or whenever i have it detailed

[Pinoy Discus]

Yes sir they ask for extra charge if you choose "super black" , Free tint only applies for the medium black on side/rear windows & visor .. I had my windshield tinted 1 piece at winterpine..

You're most welcome to join MSCP .. Enjoy your monty :thumbup:

Sir JPG111,

Thanks for the response... Hmmm, okay I'll keep that in mind if my Jedi mind tricks won't work on my SA...

That long road trip sounds really good, hehe...

Kind regards

[chng238]

Thanks Sir Chng238 for the kind reply... I'm trying to convince my SA to give me the same deal because I had waived the visor already as it is part of the accessory package which I had already paid for...

Wish me luck and I appreciate the warm welcome.

I look forward to joining the club's EB's and road trips in the future...

Kind regards

All the best to you, we really like to see you on our EB and road trip.....

Please also read the thread post by JPG111, he have different treatment from me.......