Mitsubishi Pajero Fieldmaster (Gen 2.5) [continued]

[Ry_Tower]

Mga sir kapag po Manual Tranny na fieldmaster anong specs(GL? and grade) ang dapat ilagay? Ganun din po ba papalitan, front and rear diff + transfer case? Mga ilang liters po?
Nagpapalit kasi ko sa motorix kanina, ang tanda ko linagay 90 tapos meron 140 GL1 yata, inabot ng 9liters lahat 2k+ ang gastos. Check ko po mamaya sa resibo hinahanap ko pa kasi.
Nakita ko na po yung recibo, 3ltr #90, 6ltr #140. yung #140 po sure ako GL1 nasakin kasi bote, yung #90 di ko nakuha bote pero kung sakali GL1 din yun masama po ba? Manual Tranny po.

API GL5 – cover high EP(Extreme Pressure) lubricants, particularly for hypoid gears in axles operating under high speed, high load conditions

API GL4 - covers milder EP lubricants for spiral bevel (and some hypoid) gears in axles operating under moderate speeds and loads. These oils may be used in selected manual transmission and transaxle applications.

API GL3 – covers service for manual transmissions and spiral bevel axles operating under mild to moderate speeds and loads

API GL2 – covers service for automotive type worm gear axles

API GL1 – covers service for manual transmissions operating under such mild conditions that straight mineral oil will suffice.

GL 4-5 SAE 80w90 or 90 straight sa manual tranny, GL 5 SAE 80w90 or 140 straight sa differential dapat.

[halimaw]

Salamat sir. Makakasira ba na GL1 yung linagay? Bad trip kasi kaya nga ko sa motorix pa dumayo kala ko sanay sila sa pajero at mitsubishi, mali pala na GL1 yung linagay nila? Dapat ba bumalik ako sakanila then sabihin ko mali linagay nila?

Ang intindi ko din kasi sa mga nabasa ko online, yung GL4-5 para sa Gearoils kung Matic yung pajero, pag manual GL1,2,3 dapat?
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API classification subdivides all transmission oils into 6 classes:
API GL-1. Oils for light conditions. They consist of base oils without additives. Sometimes they contain small amounts of antioxidizing additives, corrosion inhibitors, depressants and antifoam additives. API GL-1 oils are designed for spiral-bevel, worm gears and manual transmissions without synchronizers in trucks and farming machines.
API GL-2. Oils for moderate conditions. They contain anti-wear additives and are designed for worm gears. Recommended for proper lubrication of tractor and farming machine transmissions.
API GL-3. Oils for moderate conditions. Contain up to 2.7% anti-wear additives. Designed for lubricating bevel and other gears of truck transmissions. Not recommended for hypoid gears.
API GL-4. Oils for various conditions - light to heavy. They contain up to 4.0% effective anti-scuffing additives. Designed for bevel and hypoid gears which have small displacement of axes, the gearboxes of trucks, and axle units. These oils are standard for synchronized gearboxes, especially in Europe, and may also be recommended for non-synchronized gearboxes of US trucks, tractors and buses and for main and other gears of all vehicles. GL-4 oils may also be used in many limited-slip differentials.
API GL-5. Oils for severe conditions. They contain up to 6.5% effective anti-scuffing additives. The general application of oils in this class are for hypoid gears having significant displacement of axes, generally non limited-slip differentials. They are recommended as universal oils to all other units of mechanical transmission (except synchronized gearboxes specifying GL-4). Some GL-5 oils in this class, which have special approval of vehicle manufacturers, can be used in synchronized manual gearboxes. API GL-5 oils can be used in limited slip differentials only if they correspond to the requirements of specification MIL-L-2105D or ZF TE-ML-05. In this case the designation of class will be another, for example API GL-5+ or API GL-5 LS.
API GL-6 is not applied any more as it is considered that class API GL-5 well enough meets the most severe requirements. When API GL-6 was still in use, it denoted oils for very heavy conditions (high speeds of sliding and significant shock loadings). They contained up to 10% high performance anti-scuffing additives. They were designed for hypoid gears with significant displacement of axes. However, in 2011 at least one company offers new polyol ester based API GL-6 oil, mostly for racing applications.[1] The application is limited to certain types of manual transmissions, but improvements in BSFC of about 5% in standard weather and driving conditions and up to 15-20% in cold extremes (arctic weather conditions) can be expected.[2]

[miko101130]

GL-5 usually is used for hypoid type of differential... kasama na mga limited slip with additives, tapos may kasamang extreme pressure additives yan...

GL-4 halos ka parehas lang din nang GL-5 in terms of application....

Gl-1 walang extreme pressure additives na kasama

the major concern and difference between Gl-5 and GL-4 is the additive that is present,the EP...

EP(extreme pressure additives) are corrosive to yellow metals such as copper or brass in bushings and synchronizers

GL-5 is not necessarily backward compatible in synchro-mesh transmissions designed for a GL-4 oil due to its corrosiveness to yellow metals and also because GL-5 has a lower coefficient of friction

[9701]

mga sir, there was a vibration on my 03FM during reverse driving but on normal/forward driving normal cruise ala naman vibration. ano po kayang culprit? TIA and good am po.

[halimaw]

Thanks po. Bumalik ako motorix, pinapalitan ko na lang ulit lahat, Progear GL5 sae80-90 made in US nakakuha ko sa richcar wala kasi gl5 sa motorix for front and rear differentials, Whiz GL4 sae90 for transfer case and pinapalitan ko na din yung sa manual transmission same whiz gl4 sae90. Di na lang ako siningil sa labor.
Laki na difference vs nung linagay nila before sae140 gl1 sa differentials, mabigat itakbo sigurado mas malakas yun sa konsumo, ngayon dito sa sae80-90 gl5 gaan talaga ramdam mo liksi. Naglalagay lang daw dapat ng 140 kung mejo may ingay na differentials.
Regarding naman sa ecogear GL1 gearoils na linagay sakin nung una, nung dumaan ako sa el dorado malapit kasi samin, nung nagtanong ako papalit ng gearoils differentials and transfer case, same oil ang pinakita sakin! Ecogear GL1, yun lang daw meron sila at yun talaga linalagay sa fieldmaster, nung nagtanong ako about GL4&5 oils di alam nung mechanic basta daw sae90 yun daw linalagay nila talaga. Ang mahal pa ng labor, 1.2k di kasama manual transmission compared sa 550 ng motorix. Nagtanong din ako labor sa richcar 8-900 tanda ko di pa kasama manual transmission which is another 750. Sa motorix 250 siningil sakin sa manual transmission. Sumarap ngayon ipasok yung kambyo lalu na sa primera dati mejo hirap. So far so good naman!

[Ry_Tower]

^ good thing naman at ayos na diff and tranny oil mo. Magandang quality din yang whiz oils.

I use 80w90 GL4 and 5 din ng Valvoline. Yung synthetic na din para suwabe.

[AC]

share ko lang guys... pinalift ko pajero ko.. sa likod lang... 1.5" dahil may kalumaan na gen2 namin and medyo bagsak na likod... may siningit lang na goma sa springs.. 500php lang.. (parts and labor napo yan) mga 1 hour lang siguro ginawa
ang nagturo sakin yung mga banawe boys.. una natakot din ako kasi baka... raket... pero maayos naman trabaho nila and.. maganda naman kinalabasan ng ride...

[Bisita]

nasa 2.5k yung orig ser sa motorix, 1.5k yung replacement, parehas bago po yan. Nagkakabit din sila 500 ata labor.

Noted! maraming salamat boss!

[halimaw]

Pure Guard US made pala brand nung GL5 sae80-90. :D

[halimaw]

Next year try ko naman yan boss.

[acertan]

guys


questions lang for gen 2
1.ano ang tested brand niyo na batt and gano katagal? ok ba ang amaron ka level daw kasi ng ac delco?
2. tuwing kelan ang change oil ng engine 4d56?
3.anu magandang brand ng oil and ilan liters? mineral,semi,fully synthetic?
4.anu magandang brand ng oil filter and magkano?
5.tuwing kelan ang change ng atf?
6.anu brand maganda brand ng atf and ilan liters + magkano?
7. yung gasket sa pan for 4d56 magkano? para kasing may leak sa gilid isabay ko na sana pag changeoil, mas makakamura ba kung sa service like servitek or rapide para gawin yun and change oil or mas makakamura pag diy?


thanks in advance sa mkakasagot ng mga tanong ko

[acertan]

+ padagdag nadin, nagamit din ba kayo ng engine oil flush anu brand maganda and magkano?


tnx ulit

[igiwtf]

IMHO
questions lang for gen 2
1.ano ang tested brand niyo na batt and gano katagal? ok ba ang amaron ka level daw kasi ng ac delco?
motolite excel 3sm 24months or more ang itatagal nito

2. tuwing kelan ang change oil ng engine 4d56?
depende pag mineral some 4kms some 5kms ang change oil, pag fully synthetic naman every 10kms ang palit ng oil at 5kms ang oil filter

3.anu magandang brand ng oil and ilan liters? mineral,semi,fully synthetic?
anything na CI-4 rated oil pwede
pag mineral
mobil delvac mx
caltex delo gold

fully synthetic
royal purple
motul crdi
mobil delvac 1


4.anu magandang brand ng oil filter and magkano?

OEM
VIC

5.tuwing kelan ang change ng atf?

every 30kms

6.anu brand maganda brand ng atf and ilan liters + magkano?
mobil or anything na meron ang auto supply just check kung ano need mo , refer to user manual

7. yung gasket sa pan for 4d56 magkano? para kasing may leak sa gilid isabay ko na sana pag changeoil, mas makakamura ba kung sa service like servitek or rapide para gawin yun and change oil or mas makakamura pag diy?

pa service mo nalang sa servitek or sa suking talyer mo



thanks in advance sa mkakasagot ng mga tanong ko

[junerski]

questions lang for gen 2

1.ano ang tested brand niyo na batt and gano katagal? ok ba ang amaron ka level daw kasi ng ac delco?

ako motolite excel (haven't tried amaron/ac delco)

2. tuwing kelan ang change oil ng engine 4d56?

5k km, or 3 months whichever comes first... minsan kasi matagal natin maabot ang 5k km per interval

3.anu magandang brand ng oil and ilan liters? mineral,semi,fully synthetic?

kung may budget go for fully synthetic... pero multigrade/mineral will do... mobil1 delvac mx 15w-40 gamit ko
di ako sure sa 4d56, pero siguro 5-6liters?!

4.anu magandang brand ng oil filter and magkano? dun ako sa readily available and subok na... vic or bosch (P300 +/- siguro price)

5.tuwing kelan ang change ng atf?

general recommendation every 20k km... tapos sa 40k km, pull down pan, palit a/t filter

6.anu brand maganda brand ng atf and ilan liters + magkano?

mobil1 ang recommended ng diamond marcos highway... siguro mga P200+ ...5liters ata


7. yung gasket sa pan for 4d56 magkano? para kasing may leak sa gilid isabay ko na sana pag changeoil, mas makakamura ba kung sa service like servitek or rapide para gawin yun and change oil or mas makakamura pag diy?

DIY syempre masmura since ikaw magsosource ng parts (pwede canvass then buy the cheapest) tapos walang labor fee. gas siguro ang expenses mo travelling from your suking autosupply/lubricant dealer back to your place.

kapag sa shops kasi gaya ng nabanggit, nandun na lahat wala kana aalahanin just bring your car and wait at the lounge.

[bigbrocx]

meron na ba nakapagpalit ng auxiliary fan ng aircon para sa gen2.5? idk if same sila ng gen 2. pinacheck ko kasi yun air con, ayaw lumamig if nakatigil yun sasakyan puro buga lang then pag naandar ok na ulit... they found out na hindi nagana yun dalawa fan.. meron daw sila orig nun 3500 yun nasa taas, then 2500 yun nasa baba? pwede na ba o mahal? denso din daw..

[junerski]

meron na ba nakapagpalit ng auxiliary fan ng aircon para sa gen2.5? idk if same sila ng gen 2. pinacheck ko kasi yun air con, ayaw lumamig if nakatigil yun sasakyan puro buga lang then pag naandar ok na ulit... they found out na hindi nagana yun dalawa fan.. meron daw sila orig nun 3500 yun nasa taas, then 2500 yun nasa baba? pwede na ba o mahal? denso din daw..

sir, sino po yung "sila" nyo? ...mukhang mura po ang presyo nila for original denso aux fan... checked my records year 2010 i replaced my aux fan (yung big, nasa likod ng grill) priced at P4,650 from denso quezon avenue... baka bumaba na presyo. yung small aux fan sa baba pinarepair ko lang cost me P450 sa reys electrical marikina.

[bigbrocx]

sir, sino po yung "sila" nyo? ...mukhang mura po ang presyo nila for original denso aux fan... checked my records year 2010 i replaced my aux fan (yung big, nasa likod ng grill) priced at P4,650 from denso quezon avenue... baka bumaba na presyo. yung small aux fan sa baba pinarepair ko lang cost me P450 sa reys electrical marikina.

sila> if same yun pang gen 2 and gen2.5.. thanks sa info sir.. check ko din muna baka surplus lang yun kanila, mura kasi or baka fake..hehe patingnan ko din muna sa electrician at baka magawan pa ng paraan..

[AC]

wow question answer.. hilig ako dito...
questions lang for gen 2
1.ano ang tested brand niyo na batt and gano katagal? ok ba ang amaron ka level daw kasi ng ac delco?
binibili ko mura lang eh.. 3sm na regular... pag tatay ko nagkataon... ac delco usually na sealed... hehe
2. tuwing kelan ang change oil ng engine 4d56?
5k kms.. ako 4k ko ginagawa...
3.anu magandang brand ng oil and ilan liters? mineral,semi,fully synthetic?
bumibili ako by pale...
18liter 1950.. bili ko last month...
tapos yung mga lumang... lalagyan di ko tinatapon.. para ilipat dun pag time na for changeoil...
parang 7 liters.. not sure..
4.anu magandang brand ng oil filter and magkano?
dati vic.. pero nagbasa ako ng isang thread... natutunan ko.. mahal pala and hindi maganda quality nun...
nung last changeoil... bosch binili ko filter.. half price ng vic.. sabi.. mas maganda padaw...
5.tuwing kelan ang change ng atf?
hehe... 20k..
6.anu brand maganda brand ng atf and ilan liters + magkano?
kung ano mura
7. yung gasket sa pan for 4d56 magkano? para kasing may leak sa gilid isabay ko na sana pag changeoil, mas makakamura ba kung sa service like servitek or rapide para gawin yun and change oil or mas makakamura pag diy?
parang mahal pareho servitek and rapide eh.. rapide... kung ano ano pa sasabihin sira ng sasakyan mo.. para madami ka ipagawa sakanila..

[EA622]

try ko lang din sumagot based sa mga nakita ko from tsikot sir
questions lang for gen 2
1.ano ang tested brand niyo na batt and gano katagal? ok ba ang amaron ka level daw kasi ng ac delco?
-I heard issues sa AC Delco, daming negative comments, may thread na din siya dito sa tsikot

2. tuwing kelan ang change oil ng engine 4d56?
3.anu magandang brand ng oil and ilan liters? mineral,semi,fully synthetic?
-you can go as far as 12,000 kms daw sa intervals sir, visit mo tong thread na to, http://tsikot.com/forums/engine-fuel...tration-79219/

4.anu magandang brand ng oil filter and magkano?
-gamit ko din VIC dati, pero poorly made daw tlga to, hehe, baldwin or fleetguard ung most recommended dun sa said thread, mejo mahirap lang isource tong mga parts na to

7. yung gasket sa pan for 4d56 magkano? para kasing may leak sa gilid isabay ko na sana pag changeoil, mas makakamura ba kung sa service like servitek or rapide para gawin yun and change oil or mas makakamura pag diy?
-RAPIDE IS THE WORST! dont set foot sa kahit saang shop nian sir. hmm, motorix and speedyfix ung madalas na may good feedback sa mga taga tsikot.. HTH!

[bigbrocx]

napalitan din yun 2 motor ng aux fan para sa aircon..

eto yun denso part number:
065000-7121-main fan =3.5k
062500-6351-small fan =2.8k