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    #2071
    Agree, it's the SUA issue being discussed. If this happened to another brand/model then there would have been the same discussions.

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    #2072
    Quote Originally Posted by jigs_xix View Post
    Kung ganito ba naman ang expert ng DTI eh patay tayo dyan. Ang conclusion ay napasma ang Montero niyo

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    DTI Expert Witness Engr. Araga: Frequent carwashing in the PH may have an effect on the Monteros. | *alvinelchico

    https://twitter.com/ANCALERTS/status/671943444827275264
    napasma? hahaha mas maniniwala pa ako sa sinapian ng demonyo! hehe!

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    #2073
    Quote Originally Posted by keto View Post
    None daw according to topgear ph, onli in da pilipins.
    None that we know of. I actually wish we had easy access to that kind of data, but I'm pretty sure if it was widespread there, we'd see it on some of the Thai expat forums (I browse through them from time to time).

    Quote Originally Posted by keto View Post
    I wonder why people are so afraid of the Montero when they should be afraid of all vehicles irregardless of make or model. Any vehicle can go on a rampage when the circumstances call for it.
    I'm scared ****less of all Monteros and Forts on the road. Many of their drivers drive like madmen. Tailgating at speed, weaving through traffic...

    Possible, but for cruise-control led SUA, as stated in the paper.

    Cruise control isn't standard on the Monty, however, and modern electronic cruise control is brake-defeatable. Besides which, cruise control needs to be activated before it takes effect.

    Besides, proven cases of Cruise-control led SUA were traced to switch malfunctions, rather than speed sensor malfunctions.

    Quote Originally Posted by altec View Post
    How about a faulty inhibitor switch? I can start the monty when the stick is on D but the indicator is blank, shake the shift a little and the indicator lights up. I can also do it the opposite way. While lighted, i move the stick a little and the indicator goes blank. Could this glitch coupled with developing a habit of not needing to step on the brake to change gears specially coming from park (for 2012 and older models), plus mistaking the fuel pedal as the brakes, contribute to it?
    I've thought of that, myself, but the standard failure mode of the inhibitor switch is to drop the transmission in neutral, and the problem is not intermittent. It's pretty much terminal. Once the car heats up, the inhibitor switch malfunctions over and over again and requires cleaning and eventual replacement.

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    Actually, former TGP editor Mike Black chimed in on FB. He has worked in the industry for a while, and he's actually seen electronic accelerator pedal failure, first hand.

    Guess what the default failure mode is? Yup. Limp mode. The car simply won't move.

    Quote Originally Posted by kimbon View Post
    meron nga pero inutil naman ang DOST pati DTI, ang TESDA naman pagka alam ko wala silang hi-tech na machine to diagnose the computer box of modern cars. huh PAGASA? sila ba yung weather forecaster
    I recall the story Ferman told me before about the DOST serving as witness to the Khaos Tubo-Charger testing before. Yeah... no.

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    Personally, it's over-reaching to say there are no defects with the Montero. Montero owners here and in the clubs know there are defects. Hell, there's a laundry list of them easily searchable here on tsikot. But none of them will lead to SUA. As a former editor of mine, who owns an MS, notes: Some of them will actually cause the Montero to not move at all.
    Last edited by niky; December 2nd, 2015 at 07:17 PM.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    #2074
    Quote Originally Posted by car_fan View Post
    Agree, it's the SUA issue being discussed. If this happened to another brand/model then there would have been the same discussions.
    What if the car maker is a chinesse brand? Im sure panay bash lang yan at walang magtatanggol.

    Or how about if it is a kia or hyundai?

    My point here, mitsu has some pretty loyal fans na talagang defend kung defend.

    We need an actual automotive engineer to fully digest the issue to avoid biases.

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    #2075
    Question for AT drivers who had more experience with MT.

    From a stand still, pwede mo ba mapagkamalan na clutch yun brake pedal? Like for example, depress mo yun brake thinking na clutch sya then shifting to D o R then apak accelerator padiin ng pdiin kasi ayaw umandar dahil naka brake ka. Then releasing the brake slowly thinking na clutch yun. Tapos bigla mag surge yun car due to the release of stored potential energy. Pwede ba yun?

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    #2076
    eh napakadali lang naman pala ng solusyon sa problema ng montero eh. dahil daw sa carwash kaya nag kaka SUA edi wag na magpa carwash para wala ng SUA

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    #2077
    Quote Originally Posted by xagent_orangex View Post
    napasma? hahaha mas maniniwala pa ako sa sinapian ng demonyo! hehe!
    Pero kapag napasma ka diba nilalagat. Hindi makakilos, nakamamatay kaya yan. Hindi ka dapat mag-SUA.

    Kakatakot magpa-carwash pala nang MS. Tataas singil sa mga yan. tsk tsk

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    #2078
    Quote Originally Posted by chronicle View Post
    What if the car maker is a chinesse brand? Im sure panay bash lang yan at walang magtatanggol.

    Or how about if it is a kia or hyundai?

    My point here, mitsu has some pretty loyal fans na talagang defend kung defend.

    We need an actual automotive engineer to fully digest the issue to avoid biases.

    Please read my previous comment carefully. 😁

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    #2079
    Quote Originally Posted by car_fan View Post
    Please read my previous comment carefully. 😁
    Nope sir. I am not targeting you or your comments. I am just backing up your post.

    Easy lang.

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    #2080
    Quote Originally Posted by car_fan View Post
    Question for AT drivers who had more experience with MT.

    From a stand still, pwede mo ba mapagkamalan na clutch yun brake pedal? Like for example, depress mo yun brake thinking na clutch sya then shifting to D o R then apak accelerator padiin ng pdiin kasi ayaw umandar dahil naka brake ka. Then releasing the brake slowly thinking na clutch yun. Tapos bigla mag surge yun car due to the release of stored potential energy. Pwede ba yun?
    My main car is a manual, my backup car is an automatic. Minsan nakakalimutan kong matic pala dala ko, so my left foot looks for a clutch, nagugulat ako na walang pedal.

    But never have I stepped on the brake pedal thinking it was the clutch. Ibang iba pedal feel ng brake ng AT because it's a much wider pedal with much less resistance.


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