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    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    Pag sinabi magastos magkano estimate mag panull ngbkasal? ANd gano katagal Atty.?
    expensive is a relative term. what is expensive to one may not be so to another. for example, an acceptance fee of P200k plus 5k appearance fee per hearing maybe no sweat to some but outrageous to others. saka depende din sa abogado yan, may mga mura din naman. may naghingi ng acceptance fee ng 100k at appearance fee of 3k per hearing. apart from that, yung declaration of nullity under Article 36 (psychological incapacity), you need to get the services of a clinical psychologist, may bayad din yan, dito sa amin sa probinsya mga 15k to 20k daw yung professional fee nila. on top of that, may filing fee pa more or less P5k. may iba din naman na isang bagsakan, magbayad ka lang sa abogado a certain sum to cover everything-- the professional fee of the lawyer, filing fee , at yung PF ng psychologist. but, word of advice, huwag mo bayaran lahat in one setting baka the next day di na magpakita si attorney. for example, nagkasundo kayo sa halaga ng 150k, you may pay only 50k as downpayment. then pay another 50k or 20k pag na file na yung kaso and the balance kung may decision na.

    yung gaano katagal naman, there's no hard and fast rule. I know a judge who can decide an annulment case for one year. may mga cases naman na as long as 3 to 7 years.
    pero alam mo there are many ways to skin a cat. di na naman yan lingid sa kaalaman ng karamihan ng may tao talagang bayaran, may nag six months lang daw pero iba ng usapan yan. naririnig ko lang. wala akong personal knowledge. and there were judges who were dismissed from the service by the SC because of that.
    may abogado naman na kung ano-ano pinagsasabi para magka pera lang kesyo kaibigan daw niya itong si judge so madali lang, be wary of them though there are those who really can deliver. a word of advice: do the right thing- go for the right process, the honorable one. although it may take longer, di ka magkakamali dun. unless, somebody is waiting for you on the sideline who's already in the family way, and whose brother is aiming his shotgun at you, which is almost always the case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    *jaypee10, before i give my legal opinion dyan sa problema mo, I need to ask these questions:
    1) talaga bang nawala or itinago lang sa inyo ng iyong pinsan?
    kasi kung itinago lang at hindi nawala iba yung remedy natin at hindi reconstitution of title.
    2) yung mother title, ito ba ay original certificate of title (OCT) or transfer certificate of title (TCT)? kasi yung petition for reconstitution of title and issuance of second owners copy of OCT and
    petition for reconstitution of title and issuance of second owners copy of TCT are separately treated by RA 26 (An Act Providing a Special Procedure for the Reconstitution of Torrens Certificates of Title Losr or Destroyed)
    di na bumalik si *jaypee. ito na lang kasi naging hanging yung sa kanya.

    kung talagang nawala na yung mother title, the thing to do here is file a petition for reconstitution of title and issuance of second owner's copy with the regional trial court of the place where the property is located. The petition shall state or contain, among other things, the following: (a) that the owner's duplicate of the certificate of title had been lost or destroyed; (b) that no co-owner's mortgagee's or lessee's duplicate had been issued, or, if any had been issued, the same had been lost or destroyed; (c) the location, area and boundaries of the property; (d) the nature and description of the buildings or improvements, if any, which do not belong to the owner of the land, and the names and addresses of the owners of such buildings or improvements; (e) the names and addresses of the occupants or persons in possession of the property, of the owners of the adjoining properties and all persons who may have any interest in the property; (f) a detailed description of the encumbrances, if any, affecting the property; and (g) a statement that no deeds or other instruments affecting the property have been presented for registration, or, if there be any, the registration thereof has not been accomplished, as yet. All the documents, or authenticated copies thereof, to be introduced in evidence in support of the petition for reconstitution shall be attached thereto and filed with the same (Sec.12, RA 26).

    kung itinago lang, it is indicative na may ibang gustong mangyari other than the fair and equitable partition of the property described in the mother title. ang gagawin dyan, you initiate the filing of judicial partition of the property owned by your grandfather para ang korte na mag decide who shall get what, because all of you who are heirs of your grandfather are co-owners of that property. the downside with it is the expenses and time that go along with court proceedings kaysa extra-judicial partition (meaning, you just execute a deed of extra-judicial partition before a notary public) na very expeditious.

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    #23
    I heard that a judged in Cebu (Judge Suerte?) used to rule on annulment cases in 6 months! Of course may padulas. He got fired from the judiciary a few years ago.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rollyic View Post
    malamang hahaba ang thread na 'to kung pag uusapan ang ANNULMENT
    question ko nga pala tungkol sa ANNULMENT....

    bakit sa ibang countries allowed ito tulad dito sa pinas.

    pero ang SODOMY hindi? i'm confused.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    *jaypee10, before i give my legal opinion dyan sa problema mo, I need to ask these questions:
    1) talaga bang nawala or itinago lang sa inyo ng iyong pinsan?
    kasi kung itinago lang at hindi nawala iba yung remedy natin at hindi reconstitution of title.
    2) yung mother title, ito ba ay original certificate of title (OCT) or transfer certificate of title (TCT)? kasi yung petition for reconstitution of title and issuance of second owners copy of OCT and
    petition for reconstitution of title and issuance of second owners copy of TCT are separately treated by RA 26 (An Act Providing a Special Procedure for the Reconstitution of Torrens Certificates of Title Losr or Destroyed)
    sapilitan pong kinuha sa aming bahay..muntik nadin kasi nagkasakitan kaya ibinigay na ng mother ko sa kanila.para wala ng masaktan..
    bale tatlo po ang maghahati dun sa lupa na un.ung kumuha ng titolo.mother ko saka ung bunso nila.ngayon po nagka sundo na na pasukat at hatiin sa tatlo ang lupa..simula po sa highway comercial hanggang sa dulo..ung dulo po ang binigay sa amin.ung gitna sa bunso ,at ang kinuha niya ang harapan kung saan comercial.at ang naging hatiian ay pantay po talaga..dipo ba dapat kapag commercial sa harapan ay mas mataas ang value,dapat po mas maliit ang sukat ng kanila..kumpara sa amin sa dulo..

    ngayon po gusto na namin i transfer sa pangalan ng mother ko ung parte namin pero kailangan daw ung mother tittle.nung tinanong namin.nawawala daw sa kanila ung titolo ,pero sila ang kumuha sa amin..

    ngayon natatakot kami na baka ibenta or masanggla ung titolo..
    ano ang pwede namin gawin para mapalagyan na ng mother title angaming lupa..at ano ang dapat namin gawin para lumabas ang titolong kinuha nila..

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    Quote Originally Posted by holdencaulfield View Post
    question ko nga pala tungkol sa ANNULMENT....

    bakit sa ibang countries allowed ito tulad dito sa pinas.

    pero ang SODOMY hindi? i'm confused.
    Annulment is a legal process to nullify a marriage which is voidable or considered valid until annulled. The grounds for annulment are enumerated by law and this enumeration is exclusive, thus:
    (1) That the party in whose behalf it is sought to have the marriage annulled was eighteen years of age or over but below twenty-one, and the marriage was solemnized without the consent of the parents, unless after attaining the age of twenty-one, such party freely cohabited with the other and both lived together as husband and wife;
    (2) That either party was of unsound mind, unless such party after coming to reason, freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife;
    (3) That the consent of either party was obtained by fraud, unless such party afterwards, with full knowledge of the facts constituting the fraud, freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife;
    (4) That the consent of either party was obtained by force, intimidation or undue influence, unless the same having disappeared or ceased, such party thereafter freely cohabited with the other as husband and wife;
    (5) That either party was physically incapable of consummating the marriage with the other, and such incapacity continues and appears to be incurable (impotency); or
    (6) That either party was afflicted with a ***ually-transmissible disease found to be serious and appears to be incurable. (Art. 45, Family Code)

    By definition, sodomy is any form of ***ual acts regarded as perverted, especially anal intercourse, oral-anal contact, or ***ual intercourse with an animal.

    Sodomy is not a ground for annulment, BUT it can be a ground for legal separation under paragraph 8 of Art. 55--***ual infidelity or perversion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jaypee10 View Post
    sapilitan pong kinuha sa aming bahay..muntik nadin kasi nagkasakitan kaya ibinigay na ng mother ko sa kanila.para wala ng masaktan..
    bale tatlo po ang maghahati dun sa lupa na un.ung kumuha ng titolo.mother ko saka ung bunso nila.ngayon po nagka sundo na na pasukat at hatiin sa tatlo ang lupa..simula po sa highway comercial hanggang sa dulo..ung dulo po ang binigay sa amin.ung gitna sa bunso ,at ang kinuha niya ang harapan kung saan comercial.at ang naging hatiian ay pantay po talaga..dipo ba dapat kapag commercial sa harapan ay mas mataas ang value,dapat po mas maliit ang sukat ng kanila..kumpara sa amin sa dulo..

    ngayon po gusto na namin i transfer sa pangalan ng mother ko ung parte namin pero kailangan daw ung mother tittle.nung tinanong namin.nawawala daw sa kanila ung titolo ,pero sila ang kumuha sa amin..

    ngayon natatakot kami na baka ibenta or masanggla ung titolo..
    ano ang pwede namin gawin para mapalagyan na ng mother title angaming lupa..at ano ang dapat namin gawin para lumabas ang titolong kinuha nila..
    dumulog po kayo sa tanggapan ng isang abogado at sabihin nyo an gusto nyong mag file ng notice of adverse claim. ipa- annotate ninyo yang adverse claim nyo sa kopya ng certificate of title na andun sa registry of deeds. the duly annotated adverse claim signifies that another person has a claim or interest in the registered land.Babala po iyan to third parties na somebody is claiming an interest on the said property.
    Under P.D. No. 1529, adverse claim is good only for 30 days from annotation, after which a verified petition maybe filed to cancel it with the RTC. In the meantime, you file a judicial partition in court. once it is filed, you file a notice of LIS PENDENS, which is constructive notice to any person that the property is the subject of a pending case.

    You may also file a criminal case for grave coercion against nung
    sapilitang kumuha ng titulo (kailan
    ba nangyari yan baka nag prescribe na).

    Hope this helps.

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    may katsikot po tayo dito who is gracious enough to PM me in order to call my attention the distinction between petition for reconstitution of title and petition for issuance of second owner's copy of a lost or destroyed title. I asked him to post his comment but I haven't seen it here yet, so i take the liberty of posting it here (i won't divulge his handle. am sure he doesn't want to be known). thank you sir. i appreciate that. here it is--
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    Quote Originally Posted by Juan Martinez View Post
    thanks bro. para sa bayan ☺ ang sa akin mas madali mag bigay ng payo kung I'm using my Mac rather than this Note3. the thing is, di ko pa alam masyado paano gamitin yung Mac in relation sa tsikot. parang mabagal eh. unless you give me an idea how 😀 you know it's somewhat difficult for old dogs to learn new tricks

    Attorney just open your browser and type tsikot.com in you mac, mac is using opera browser if not mistaken but you can always download chrome or other browsers, i think its allowed.

    Btw, meron din akong gustong itanong total regarding legal advise sa lupa ang tanong, my Father owns a property in Bicol we as his children are the rightful heirs to the property, last December I came to know that someone we know, not blood related (pinaral at pinalaki nina Erpats, not even legally adapted) sold our property thru an SPA, my question is regarding the validity of an SPA.

    Is the SPA still legally binding even if the issuer is already dead from the time the SPA was used?

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    Nice thread sir juan martinez

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    Public Service. Kudos, Atty.

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    Ito sir juan martinez ano suggestion mo dito regarding sa real estate

    May pamanang lupa ang tatay ng lola ko sa davao
    then may nagsquat na mga muslim sa lupa doon sabi ng relatives namin
    based sa Davao kaya sa city sila nagfafarming na kasi natatakot sila bawiin sa muslim
    at pero nasa relatives namin ang titulo
    TIA

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    Ito sir juan martinez ano suggestion mo dito regarding sa real estate

    May pamanang lupa ang tatay ng lola ko sa davao
    then may nagsquat na mga muslim sa lupa doon sabi ng relatives namin
    based sa Davao kaya sa city sila nagfafarming na kasi natatakot sila bawiin sa muslim
    at pero nasa relatives namin ang titulo
    TIA

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    Your question is quite confusing.

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    sorry sir walter medyo mali pagconstruct ko ng sentence

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosswind View Post
    sorry sir walter medyo mali pagconstruct ko ng sentence
    Not a legal opinion pero bayaran niyo na lang para umalis. Hirap makipagaway sa muslim.

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    Thanks sa reply.
    Yeah I agree mahirap makipagaway kahit may
    connections kami sa davao.
    Di naman masyadong priority yung lupa, I am just asking for solutions pag gsuto na namin paalisin.

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    Thanks sa reply.
    Yeah I agree mahirap makipagaway kahit may
    connections kami sa davao.
    Di naman masyadong priority yung lupa, I am just asking for solutions pag gsuto na namin paalisin.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosswind View Post
    Thanks sa reply.
    Yeah I agree mahirap makipagaway kahit may
    connections kami sa davao.
    Di naman masyadong priority yung lupa, I am just asking for solutions pag gsuto na namin paalisin.
    I suggest the soonest the better, kaya nga yung ibang informal settlers nagkakaron ng notion na sa kanila na yung lote kasi nga antagal na nila nakatira dun.

    as for your options?

    sunugin? joke!

    bayaran? badtrip no? property niyo pero sila pa babayadan mo para umalis, parang utang na loob mo pa.

    antayin mo sagot ni Atty.

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    Oonga bro cast_no_shadow

    Babayaran ko pa sila para umalis sa lupa namin tapos kami din nag babayad ng tax ano sila siniswete!! heheh

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    Oonga bro cast_no_shadow

    Babayaran ko pa sila para umalis sa lupa namin tapos kami din nag babayad ng tax ano sila siniswete!! heheh

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    Quote Originally Posted by TholitzReloaded View Post
    Attorney just open your browser and type tsikot.com in you mac, mac is using opera browser if not mistaken but you can always download chrome or other browsers, i think its allowed.

    Btw, meron din akong gustong itanong total regarding legal advise sa lupa ang tanong, my Father owns a property in Bicol we as his children are the rightful heirs to the property, last December I came to know that someone we know, not blood related (pinaral at pinalaki nina Erpats, not even legally adapted) sold our property thru an SPA, my question is regarding the validity of an SPA.

    Is the SPA still legally binding even if the issuer is already dead from the time the SPA was used?
    under the civil code, a special power attorney is actually a contract of agency. By the contract of agency a person binds himself to render some service or to do something in representation or on behalf of another, with the consent or authority of the latter. (Article 1868 )
    Agency is extinguished by the death, civil interdiction, insanity or insolvency of the principal or of the agent (Art. 1919).
    in other words, SPA has already been extinguished upon the death of the principal. so whatever contract the agent entered into by reason of that SPA is an unenforceable contract.
    under the civil code, unenforceable contract is entered into in the name of another person by one, who has been given no authority or legal representation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by crosswind View Post
    Ito sir juan martinez ano suggestion mo dito regarding sa real estate

    May pamanang lupa ang tatay ng lola ko sa davao
    then may nagsquat na mga muslim sa lupa doon sabi ng relatives namin
    based sa Davao kaya sa city sila nagfafarming na kasi natatakot sila bawiin sa muslim
    at pero nasa relatives namin ang titulo
    TIA

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    Ito sir juan martinez ano suggestion mo dito regarding sa real estate

    May pamanang lupa ang tatay ng lola ko sa davao
    then may nagsquat na mga muslim sa lupa doon sabi ng relatives namin
    based sa Davao kaya sa city sila nagfafarming na kasi natatakot sila bawiin sa muslim
    at pero nasa relatives namin ang titulo
    TIA
    kung yung pag squat ay di pa lumagpas ng isang taon file kayo ng forcible entry ng MTCC ng davao. pero kung more than 1 year na yung dispossession, file accion publiciana or accion reivendicatoria. Bahala na korte at ang sheriff ang magpa alis sa kanila. kung totoong well-connected kayo dun ibackchannel nyo kay digong.

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