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  1. Join Date
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    #441
    Hinde ako naniniwala mas matipid inverter na naka on 24hrs panloloko lang yan ng Meralco.


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    #442
    Ganito na lang siguro...

    If the claims of 30% savings by inverters over conventional have been established, then 17 hours operation of conventional = 24 hours for inverter. So if you operate your conventional below 17 hours, tama ka, kalokohan lang na mas matipid ang inverter if you operate it 24 hours.

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    #443
    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Ganito na lang siguro...

    If the claims of 30% savings by inverters over conventional have been established, then 17 hours operation of conventional = 24 hours for inverter. So if you operate your conventional below 17 hours, tama ka, kalokohan lang na mas matipid ang inverter if you operate it 24 hours.
    heh heh heh.

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    #444
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Question....

    Window A/C namin is from Panasonic (non-inverter) which on paper consumes 839W (EER Rating of 11.3 kJ/hW)

    A Hitachi inverter consumes 849W (EER Rating of 12.7kj/hw)

    Significant ba talaga savings if I change to an inverter?
    yup. tama explanation ni papi smith. just recently lang din kami nag palit ng inverter AC. although yung monthly consumption namin eh halos same pa din, 412 kWh pero yung gamit namin ng non-inverter AC nuon eh 3-4 hrs/day lang compared sa 10-12 hrs/day ng inverter.

    Quote Originally Posted by papi smith View Post
    Yes, ung start up ang malakas, kasi pag non inverter, patay sindi ang compressor, so everytime mag on ito, start up phase ulit. Sa inverter pag nakuha na ang temp slow down lang sya, so 1 start up lang. Ang hindi ko lang alam ay paano i-quantify ito, like say 1 start up is equivalent to how many minutes na naka slowdown.

    Ung narinig mo, I think galing yan kay Isko, na matipid daw pag 24 hours, pero di naman nya quinalify.

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    #445
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    hmmm...
    malakas kami aircon.
    magkano na ba 2 or 2.5 hp inverter...?

    ... the savings alone, can pay for the new inverter inside of a year...
    2x nako "nakalibre" ng ac dahil sa pag switch to inverter

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    #446
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Question....

    Window A/C namin is from Panasonic (non-inverter) which on paper consumes 839W (EER Rating of 11.3 kJ/hW)

    A Hitachi inverter consumes 849W (EER Rating of 12.7kj/hw)

    Significant ba talaga savings if I change to an inverter?
    I think of a non-inverter A/C as para kang nagda-drive ng M/T pero parati ka lang naka-primera and an inverter A/C as CVT na continuously ina-adjust ang gear ratio according sa load.

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    #447
    Quote Originally Posted by WallyWest View Post
    I think of a non-inverter A/C as para kang nagda-drive ng M/T pero parati ka lang naka-primera and an inverter A/C as CVT na continuously ina-adjust ang gear ratio according sa load.
    yup. but on paper... the EER and Wattage difference is very low

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    #448
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    yup. but on paper... the EER and Wattage difference is very low
    Check the EER of other models such as Panasonic inverter.
    There is a certain model ng Hitachi na marketed as inverter but actual operation is parang non-inverter.
    I think HSV model yun which is the one you are referring to.
    Compare it to Hitachi HVQ or HV model instead.

    This is from tipidpc thread about that model:
    10. Hitachi RA-10HSV <click here for link> Hitachi intends to further solidify their hold on the compact segment by releasing the cheaper HSV variant. It is another single fan unit to cut costs, and even has 0.60HP and 0.75HP capacities for tiny rooms. But please AVOID AT ALL COSTS as not only it is susceptible to the front panel PCB failing prematurely, it operates like a conventional aircon resulting in high electric bills! Watch this video if you don't believe me! <click here for link>
    EER (KJ/HW) - 11.9
    Refrigerant – R410a
    Size (WxHxD) - 470 x 340 x 600

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    #449
    Quote Originally Posted by ice15 View Post
    Significant ba talaga savings if I change to an inverter?

    Yes, ROI for cost difference is about 18 months or so ... assuming you set temperature between 22C and 25C ... minimum use around 8-10 hours per day ... less than that, minimal savings but can still recoup within 3 years or so ...

    Oh, for rarely used air conditioners, just buy the basic with manual switch ... an insect will eventually fry your electronics ...

    Avoid running air conditioner 24 hours ... if you must, then room must have 2 units to alternate usage ...
    Last edited by Walter; June 19th, 2022 at 12:17 PM.

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    #450
    Quote Originally Posted by Walter View Post

    Avoid running air conditioner 24 hours ... if you must, then room must have 2 units to alternate usage ...
    but why?
    aircons aren't living things that need rest...

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