Steriods are they safe??

[jasprit]

I was told to take Sustanon 250 a type of steriod. do you think it would be safe for me?? I'm 19yrs old 6'4" about 85-87kg what dosage would you guys recomend??

I want to gain lean muscle do you guyz have any other suggestions??(like take protien shake?? creatine?? glutamine??)

What's the best whey-protien?? exept nitrotech to expensive

Ngyun lng ulit ako nag post sa tsikot dami ko pa tanung hehe... dami na pala ng improvments dito keep it up guyz.

Thkz.

[KG21]

eat 4 to 6 small meals a day..tapos work out.

[theveed]

Regardless of age, roids need close attention for it to be safe. At 19, it's highly unrecommended as you can still grow and it'll screw up your natural growth hormones.

Honestly, this isn't something to discuss lightly in a forum.

Judging from your initial post (the fact that you're asking about creatine, protein shakes etc.) clearly shows that you're still a relative beginner to bodybuilding.

I STRONGLY advice against going roids until you've exhausted other natural means of getting big.

You'll need A LOT of technical and medical knowledge to user roids relatively safely, based on your post, you still need to learn about basic body building dieting and such.

I'm not against roid use, but don't be foolish enough to think that you can gain so much without losing just as much (if not more) - healthwise.

Craploads of info in my other site, you might want to read up. http://pbfb.co.nr/

[jasprit]

thkz for the link I'l read it 4 sure.. thkz again.. I thinnk i'll stick with protien shakes for now.

[Lucius]

They're safe if your you have a good trainer that gives you a very good program and diet -- of course you have to follow exactly what he says other than BENDING OVER for injections

[webmiester]

Its controversial. Even doctors dont completely understand how steroids work.

Also be careful with your protein intake and Creatinine tablets. Ive seen some patients having Kidney failure due to these products.

[Lucius]

Its controversial. Even doctors dont completely understand how steroids work.

Also be careful with your protein intake and Creatinine tablets. Ive seen some patients having Kidney failure due to these products.

Lack of water lang yun. Kulit kasi nung iba, ayaw sumunod.

[Karding]

I was told to take Sustanon 250 a type of steriod. do you think it would be safe for me?? I'm 19yrs old 6'4" about 85-87kg what dosage would you guys recomend??

I want to gain lean muscle do you guyz have any other suggestions??(like take protien shake?? creatine?? glutamine??)

What's the best whey-protien?? exept nitrotech to expensive

Ngyun lng ulit ako nag post sa tsikot dami ko pa tanung hehe... dami na pala ng improvments dito keep it up guyz.

Thkz.

I agree with theveed. You're only 19 with lots of testosterone, at least I would think so. It seems like you want an overnight results. Invest time on training kapatid.

They're safe if your you have a good trainer that gives you a very good program and diet -- of course you have to follow exactly what he says other than BENDING OVER for injections

wow, if a trainer ever allowed you to take steroids, that's incompetency in his/her part. And if you have a very good diet and program, why take roids?!

Also, I think having a trainer is only good for a few weeks or until you learn the proper execution of each exercise and what it does.You should also know what's the difference between compound and isolation.

That's what I tell the people I train with. What, Why, and How. I wont be there with them forever, they better learn the routine. For some trainer, it's a job security. But those are the trainer who care about the money you pay them, not the results they give you. You'd be surprised, some people I train with still doesn't know what to call some of the exercises we've been performing for months :evillaugh

RE: diet
Thanks to the intarweb, you can also formulate your own diet regimen without having to rely on your trainers for a very long time. As a matter of fact, Id rather have you go to a dietitian than a trainer.

This thread will be moved to Sports, Health, and Fitness Forum

[Chip]

Roids are safe if you want:

Acne all over your back and face
Ulcers
Shrunken testicles
Ranomly getting roid rage and picking fights with everyone.

Unless theyre prescribed by a doctor to treat a condition - stay away from them.

At 19, you'll still bulk up and add more mass, just workout religiously.

Lack of water lang yun. Kulit kasi nung iba, ayaw sumunod.

Actually depende rin. Too much protein can also cause allergic reactions sa skin, a fact I found out the hard way. So everything in moderation. Remember yang bodybuliding supplements are a psuedo-science, theyre not regulated by the FDA.

[jasprit]

4-5months na ako nag gygym i'v taken 2 different protien shake 1st ezgain 6lbs ubos na then serious mass 6lbs ubos din bumili ulit ako nng serious mass 12lbs ubos na parang wala sila effect skin tama naman ang intake ko morning after workout and at night i just gained 1.5kg!!!! DEYM!! I'l start using on 100% whey protien and creatine..

* the veed thkz sa link

[Karding]

at 6'4 and 185lbs, I dont think there is a need to gain weight [bulking phase].

so if I was you, I would start the cutting phase and continue with protein and creatine intake, and lots of water.

but if you must insist on bulking phase, protein intake is not recommended before bed time if you are bulking, specially whey. Whey is not recommended dahil it is a fast absorbing protein. If you really want to consume protein before bed time, drink the casein protein, the slow absorbing protein. But I must warn you with its taste tho.

Re: Steriods are they safe??
Roids are safe if you want:

Acne all over your back and face
Ulcers
Shrunken testicles
Randomly getting roid rage and picking fights with everyone.

:hysterical:


+1 on working out religiously

ON Whey and AST Sports Science Creatine user here :hi:

edit: mods paki-edit na din ang title, typo yung Steroids. para madaling hanapin in the future, thanks.

[jasprit]

karding ano recomend na intake mo skin ng whey protien and creatine??

[chain]

like what the other tsikoteers said, you're still young para mag-steroids. at 4-5 months, it would be still early to see significant gains on your body. so stick with whey muna and bulk up using weights. keep at it...tiyaga lang yan.

***edit***

mods, pa-correct ng spelling and palipat sa tamang sub-category.

[Karding]

karding ano recomend na intake mo skin ng whey protien and creatine??

kapatid, 1gram per body weight sa protein, bulking or cutting.

creatine, 5gram a day lang. I take mine 1hour before workout.

why 1 hour before working out?

When you take creatine in powder form - it is in your blood stream for about 1 - 1.5 hours. For muscle growth the creatine must be absorbed into the muscles. So, if you are working out and deplete your creatine supply in your muscles AND you have creatine available in the blood stream, your muscles can replenish their creatine supply from the creatine in your blood.

Here is our advice - take the powder about 1 hour before your workout. Here is our reasoning...

It can take about 1 hour for the creatine to be absorbed into the bloodstream - and from that point you have about 1.5 hours to use the creatine or lose it. So, let's say you workout at 10am - here is our logic. At 9am you take the creatine powder. By 10am the creatine is in the blood stream. Your muscles are probably mostly saturated with creatine from the supplement you took the day before. So, some of the creatine you took at 9am may be absorbed into the muscles - but the rest is still in the blood. At 10am you start working out and depleting the creatine in your muscles. Your muscles then replenish their creatine supply from the creatine in the blood stream. Your workout ends at 11am (you really should not workout more than 1 hour - but that is a topic for a different day). Remember, you took creatine at 9am - but it was not absorbed into the blood stream until 10am. This means it will stay there until 11:30am (1.5 hours). So, now you have another 1/2 hour where your muscles can replenish their creatine supply if depleted. In a way you are getting the best of all worlds - you have creatine available before, during and after your workout.

You will hear other theories - but that is what we have found to be most effective. Since creatine supplies us with energy when working out - it is important we have creatine available during our workout. Creatine as a recovery agent is much less clear, so taking it after a workout to help with recovery is not proven.

http://www.absolute-creatine.com/9.htm

[redorange]

As others have said Steroids are not safe unless given by a doctor to treat a medical condition. If your trainer is the one giving it to you to use then you need a new trainer. You're young and still have a fast metabolism and as you age that will slow down and allow you to gain weight quicker. Just don't take the shortcut by doing steroids, it's not only a temporary gain but it will have side effects you will encounter in the future long after you have stopped taking it. Two pro athletes I know that has admitted to taking steroids died at a young age.

Lyle Alzado
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lyle_Alzado

Ken Caminiti
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ken_Caminiti

[Chip]

papa karding ikaw ba yan sa avatar mo? ripped na ripped aha-haaaay hehehe

teka jasprit ano ba exercises mo? baka naman puro isolation yan

eto gawin mo para sure fire way to bulk up

Squats
Deadlifts
Dips
Power Clean and push
Chin Ups
Bench press

Concentrate on compound exercises, exercises that engage more than one muscle group. try to use free weights as much as possible until you get the proper form

[Chip]

at isa pa, no offense sa mga trainers kasi di ko nilalahat pero karamihan naman ay wala talagang alam. mas mabuti pa kung ikaw na mag research kesa maniwala sa kanilang mga myths.

yung pinakapopular dyan e, "mag crunches ka, para lumiit ang tyan mo" hehehe

[Karding]

at isa pa, no offense sa mga trainers kasi di ko nilalahat pero karamihan naman ay wala talagang alam. mas mabuti pa kung ikaw na mag research kesa maniwala sa kanilang mga myths.

yung pinakapopular dyan e, "mag crunches ka, para lumiit ang tyan mo" hehehe

kapatid, you beat me to it! most trainers are capitalizing on their god given physique but mis-informed when it comes to proper training. :seeth:

si karding nga iyang nasa avatar, taken last week after eating 4 slices of pizza

jasprit, yung recommended protein intake kasama na dun ang other sources of protein. i.e. solid food

ON Whey has 24 grams per scoop. 6 scoops throughout the day will give you 144grams of the 185grams recommended for your weight. you can get the 41grams from solid food. of course, pwede din lesser ang powder protein if you can get protein from solid food.

and yes, what about your training? baka machines ginagamit mo kapatid, stick to free weights just as Chip suggested.

tulugan na, 12am na dito

[jasprit]

ginagawa ko
1st day-chest,bicep
2nd day-back,tricep
3rd day -legs
4th day -shoulders

may avlb pa ba mga supplements sa cash and carry??? ski sbi skin dati lilipat na daw sila sa macapagal can anyone verfy this??

[cyrusblutrooper]

mga peeps is it true na mas mahirap mag gain than to lose weight?