Mobile Phones and Gasoline Stations [MERGED]

[ghosthunter]

Even when the engine is off... isn't it that some of the electrical system of a vehicle is still live?

Like in the L300 case... it was faulty wiring. But faulty wiring where? It might be the wiring for the radio, lights, etc.

good point... even with the vehicle's ignition off, some other electrical systems are still live. Example, the cabin light, some radios, hazardlights, cigarette lighter, etc are still live. So if you REALLY want to be sure, you need to disconnect the battery and remove it completely from the vehicle.

[larshell]

depends, did leaking fuel drip on hot exhaust pipes?



let me guess, you guys shorted the celfone battery terminals, causing it to melt and burn. I did mention a properly working celfone will not cause a fire. An abused high power electronic device can do almost anything, even a computer can start a fire if you give it enough voltage through it. Even shorting the car battery will cause sparks and eventual melting/burning of wires.

So if you guys simply short-circuited the battery terminals, it doesn't prove much except that you can short circuit a celfone battery.

L300 fire cause by faulty electrical wiring of a/c. but it did not mention about fuel driping on hot exhaust pipe.


What i see is the cellphone is old(GSM) they turn it on and make a call put it near the container and fire started.

I remember one episode in CSI the case of jetski mechanic somehow gargle wd gasoline and make a phone call using cell actually burn his mouth down to his throat causing death.

[BlueBimmer]

hmm can a CSI episode be considered as fact?

[ghosthunter]

L300 fire cause by faulty electrical wiring of a/c. but it did not mention about fuel driping on hot exhaust pipe.

case closed... fire was not caused by a celfone.

What i see is the cellphone is old(GSM) they turn it on and make a call put it near the container and fire started.

really now? which model celfone would that be?

I remember one episode in CSI the case of jetski mechanic somehow gargle wd gasoline and make a phone call using cell actually burn his mouth down to his throat causing death.

...and I know this episode of star trek where people can get teleported from orbit to the planet. Come on, do not believe everything you see on TV.

[ghosthunter]

hmm can a CSI episode be considered as fact?

not really. some stuff are truth but others are simply TV/movie magic.

[larshell]

good point... even with the vehicle's ignition off, some other electrical systems are still live. Example, the cabin light, some radios, hazardlights, cigarette lighter, etc are still live. So if you REALLY want to be sure, you need to disconnect the battery and remove it completely from the vehicle.

If you turn off your engine it actually lessen the risk of igniton of fire, it is impossible to have zero possibilty of fire inside the gas station.There's always the chance of fire inside the station but we can help each other by preventing it to happen diba yong lang naman ang mahalaga kaysa naman pag may nangyari magsisihan tayo sa huli.Let's protect life

[FrankDrebin]

Hhmmm, most of the time my engine is running when filling-up. It's a diesel engine by the way. I don't think it will explode when filling it up.

BTW, it this related to the myth flaming fart?

[larshell]

not really. some stuff are truth but others are simply TV/movie magic.

If that is the case why believe mythbuster?

[BlueBimmer]

mythbusters is an entertaining but VERY scientific show.

[ghosthunter]

If that is the case why believe mythbuster?

Because the reason for the show is to prove/disprove certain myths. CSI is not there to prove or disprove certain events, they are after TV ratings.

[ghosthunter]

mythbusters is an entertaining but VERY scientific show.

sometimes too entertaining... like when adam lost one of his eyebrows during an accident.

[mazdamazda]

btw... in racing:

do they turn off the engine when filling-up race cars?

a few pitcrew members are equipped with radios... don't they also emit "deadly" fire-causing radio waves?

Let's protect life

the number of people being killed / injured by gasoline station fire accidents are few compared to other more "bigger" issues - for example, cigarette smoking. smoking related diseases kill over 20 million people a year.

or heck... even just firecrackers! hundreds are being maimed every year in the Philippines.

[ghosthunter]

The threat of celfones causing gas station fires is simply overblown mostly by ignorance. Until gas stations start blowing up due to properly operating celfones, this is simply a untrue myth.

[cumbersome]

I don't turn my phone off when i'm filling up, yet the Nokia manual does warn the user of celphone usage in gas stations. I wonder if that's backed up by research.

[larshell]

May warning pala ang Nokia, cellphone usage inside gas stations?

Marami ng casualties inside gas station, 10% concerns wd fire. What we are trying is to lessen the risk of injury and life loss and property loss.

[mazdamazda]

I don't turn my phone off when i'm filling up, yet the Nokia manual does warn the user of celphone usage in gas stations. I wonder if that's backed up by research.

well... they don't gain or lose anything if they put it in there.

much like the following "stupid" warning signs:

On a lawnmower I had was a big label which read:
"WARNING WHEN MOTOR IS RUNNING- THE BLADE IS TURNING!"

We once bought a grocery store pizza and the instruction were on the bottom, so we turned it upside down to see how long to cook it etc., and low and behold the first instruction was DO NOT TURN UPSIDE DOWN!

Warning on a curling iron: Do Not Insert Curling Iron Into Any Bodily Orifice…

My bathroom has inadequate ventilation and therefore, develops mold spots in the lower corners. I attempted to purchase a cleaner specifically designed to remove bathroom mold deposits. The directions on the product label stated, "Only use in well ventilated areas."

Seen on the bottom of a Coca-Cola bottle: "Do not open here."

On a bottle of spray paint: "Do not spray in your face."

[ebojr]

Siguro its more common here in the US na self-service mostly ang gas stations. Lalo na sa lugar na ang humidity mababa (dry ie: Nevada, Arizona etc) electronic devices or even your own clothing could create static electricity spark na mag-ignite ng gas fumes while refueling. Anyway its just an ounce of prevention, for in the first place sasakyan mo ang unang masunog kung mamalasin. (suwerte ka if u have a diesel)

[Wouie]

may aksidente na ba regarding cellphone sa gasolinahan?

[ghosthunter]

may aksidente na ba regarding cellphone sa gasolinahan?

no confirmed incidents... all hearsay lang.

[ghosthunter]

Siguro its more common here in the US na self-service mostly ang gas stations. Lalo na sa lugar na ang humidity mababa (dry ie: Nevada, Arizona etc) electronic devices or even your own clothing could create static electricity spark na mag-ignite ng gas fumes while refueling. Anyway its just an ounce of prevention, for in the first place sasakyan mo ang unang masunog kung mamalasin. (suwerte ka if u have a diesel)

for dry weather conditions, static discharge is a hazard. But in the Philippines, its not a problem because of the humid air.

BTW, Off-Topic na ito. Celfones & gas stations yung topic.