Mobile Phones and Gasoline Stations [MERGED]

[mikey177]

Good thing I never gas up at Caloocan. Geez.

[roninblade]

baket andaming public officials ngayon na kulang ng iodized salt? pre-requisite dapat talaga ang high IQ sa public office eh.

sa marikina naman bawal ang full face helmets pag magmomotor ka. kung ano pa yung safest helmet to use yun pa pinagbawal nila gamitin.

[CtrlAltDel]

baket andaming public officials ngayon na kulang ng iodized salt? pre-requisite dapat talaga ang high IQ sa public office eh.

sa marikina naman bawal ang full face helmets pag magmomotor ka. kung ano pa yung safest helmet to use yun pa pinagbawal nila gamitin.

O, 'di ba? Bakit ka pa aalis ng Pilipinas, eh, ang saya-saya dito! ... Meron bang ganyan sa States?

[Isuzoom]

Diyan talaga sila magaling...sa mga walang kwenta.

[dx8976]

"The councilor added that the ordinance would also ban ..., keeping engines on while refueling, ..."

What is the reasoning behind this?

[CoDer]

kelan lang, 6 months notice sa employer tapos ngayon cellphone sa gas station.

Parami ng parami ang magagaling sa gobyerno ngayon ah.

[CVT]

Kaya nga siguro tama rito ang "a public office is a public *trash*(not trust)"

[quiksie]

baka naman no texting baka masnatc ang cellphone niyo haha. Anymore stupid bills to pass?

[Isuzoom]

Law makers are no. 1 law breakers.

[larshell]

I just want to share this:


SHELL OIL COMMENTS..

The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations

In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline pump.

In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.

And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling their car.


You s hould know that:
Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes

Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release enough energy to provide a spark for ignition

Mobile ph ones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling lawn mowers, boat! , Etc.

Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, (i.e. solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.)

To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules for Safe Refueling


1) Turn off engine
2) Don't smoke
3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off
4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling

Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to try and make people aware of fires as a result of"static electricity" at gas pumps . His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.


His results were very surprising:
1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle while the nozzle was still pumping gas. When finished, they went back to pull the nozzle out and the fire started, as a result of static.
3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
4) Most men never get back in their vehicle unt il completely finished. This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas
6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when connected with static charges.
7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was re-entered and the nozzle was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some resulted in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the customer.
8) Seventeen fires occurred before, during or immediately after the gas cap was removed and before fueling began.

Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it with gas.

If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.

As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware of this danger. You can find out more information by going to <http://www.pei.org/> . Once here, click in the center of the screen where it says "Stop Static".

I ask you to please send this in formation to ALL your family and friends, especially those who have kids in the car with them while pumping gas. If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get the children out in time. Thanks for passing this along.

[OTEP]

Hindi ba proven na myth iyan?

But just to be safe, DO NOT EXIT your vehicle in the first place or open any of the windows while refueling.

Lahat naman ng gas station sa atin ay full service, I don't get the point of having to go out of your vehicle.

Baka ma-carjack ka lang.

[mbeige]

It might also have been a combination of static discharge (little sparks) and volatile fuel vapors. The cell phone thing has been disproven, I believe. But either way I don't use my phone when fueling. In the US, self service kasi except other states like Oregon. For fueling in the PI, I just put my phone aside and tell my passengers to do the same. You never know, can't see the sparks anyway so better be safe than sorry.

Agreed, touch the vehicle first to ground yourself and prevent and static discharge. More so when it's a dry climate.

Problem lang is kung may mga by-standers na nag aantay ng sasakyan/jeep pauwi. Minsan nasa tapat lang sila ng station at nagtetext. Prominent station is Petron sa Philcoa. Dami tao doon parati.

[Djerms]

Yup proven nga na myth yan. Sa Petron naman hindi sila ganyan ka strict. Parang sa shell ko lang narinig na may mga nangyaring incidents na ganyan. Im beginning to wonder na hindi kaya sa shell pumps may nang problema? Anyway, there's no harm in following naman. Ayoko lang lumabas ng sasakyan.

[mbeige]

It's actually OK to go down the vehicle BEFORE you fuel up. Kasi that's when the fuel cap is still closed, so when you go down touch the car to ground yourself. And then pwede na mag pa fill up.

If you go down DURING fill up (like in Manila), the vapors might catch the sparks generated by static discharge and would cause a fire. Imagine the gas pump pouring fuel into the car and then igniting! Tuloy tuloy yan, so also make sure you are aware of the emergency stop buttons sa pumps.

The only difference is that the weather is humid, so generation of static discharge isn't as high as in California, for example, where the weather is dry.

[bon]

Snopes.com (a really good urban legend web site) deconstructs the report of Mr Renkes - check out this link

[OTEP]

In Shell Congressional, halos buong staff ata ay smoker. From pump attendant to guard.

Buti na lang hindi pa sila sumasabog. hehehe.

[larshell]

I just hope that cellphone thing is really a myth.. Ang masakit ay mangyari ito at tsaka kapa lang maniwala, may damage na worst is may fatality pa.

[mazdamazda]

I just want to share this:

SHELL OIL COMMENTS..

The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations

Four Rules for Safe Refueling

1) Turn off engine
2) Don't smoke
3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off
4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling

As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware of this danger. You can find out more information by going to <http://www.pei.org/> . Once here, click in the center of the screen where it says "Stop Static".

These are two CONFLICTING statements.

When I visited PEI, here's what they have to say about mobile phones:

Stop Static is a safety campaign intended to increase public awareness of the potential danger posed by the discharge of static electricity during refueling.

Not Cell Phones
PEI has investigated hundreds of refueling fires and flare-ups. We have not documented one single incident that was caused by a cellular telephone.

Three Rules for Safe Refueling

While filling up...
1. Turn Off Engine
2. Don't Smoke
3. Never Re-enter Your Vehicle

http://www.pei.org/static/index.htm

The cellphone-causes-fires-in-gasoline-stations is a M-Y-T-H.

This was even tackled in Mythbusters. No freaking amount of gasoline can make the mobile phone blowup.

[ghosthunter]

[SIZE="6"]MYTH BUSTED!![/SIZE]

SHELL OIL COMMENTS..

The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations

In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline pump.

In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.

And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling their car.

Your original message was probably an email passed on from one person to another.

http://shopping.discovery.com/produc...d=40588073-2-0
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
http://www.wired.com/news/wireless/0,1382,58188,00.html

Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to try and make people aware of fires as a result of"static electricity" at gas pumps . His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.

His results were very surprising:
1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle while the nozzle was still pumping gas. When finished, they went back to pull the nozzle out and the fire started, as a result of static.
3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
4) Most men never get back in their vehicle unt il completely finished. This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas
6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when connected with static charges.
7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was re-entered and the nozzle was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some resulted in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the customer.
8) Seventeen fires occurred before, during or immediately after the gas cap was removed and before fueling began.

Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it with gas.

If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.

As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware of this danger. You can find out more information by going to <http://www.pei.org/> . Once here, click in the center of the screen where it says "Stop Static".

I ask you to please send this in formation to ALL your family and friends, especially those who have kids in the car with them while pumping gas. If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get the children out in time. Thanks for passing this along.

From the mentioned website:
http://www.pei.org/static/

Not Cell Phones
PEI has investigated hundreds of refueling fires and flare-ups. We have not documented one single incident that was caused by a cellular telephone.