Mobile Phones and Gasoline Stations [MERGED]

[yebo]

boss, on the phone when i'm with my wife and kids? i'd tell the boss to shut up and to tell me what his problem is later when i get back to work (and under salary!) he should know better than to call me when i'm off duty. siya ang hassle, not the gas attendant who is only doing his job, and saving you from getting fried!

and yes, there is an mmda ordinance that disallows the use of cell phones when filling up and while driving. meron din yata quezon city local law that penalises the same with a fine and prison term. sa metro manila 2 kotse na yata nasunog when someone used a cell phone while filling up.

as for keeping the engine running during filling up, most gas stations do not implement this strictly. after all, you do not push the car out of the station after filling up naman di ba. the danger kasi is there could be an explosion if gasoline vapor that is expelled from the gas tank during filling up gets to the contact points of the distributor. luma na yung basis of this safety precaution, most cars have sealed distributors and some cars even have distributor-less ignition systems.

[yebo]

i saw that episode too, i think mythbusters was just lucky. it does not happen all the time, maybe 1 in 10million, very very low risk. there has to be certain conditions that have to be met, they did not meet those conditions me thinks. but hey, paano kung ikaw yun, with the right conditions? may nangyari na nga sa pinas di ba, so would you put your trust on mythbusters? one test by 2 crazy guys does not prove/disprove anything. if they did it 1 million times ok, pero a few times, not really. and remember the test they did was they had the celphone right beside the gas fill hole, too rich vapor/air mixture, won't go boom. you can even put a lit cigarete there, no effect either.

[ghosthunter]

i saw that episode too, i think mythbusters was just lucky. it does not happen all the time, maybe 1 in 10million, very very low risk. there has to be certain conditions that have to be met, they did not meet those conditions me thinks. but hey, paano kung ikaw yun, with the right conditions? may nangyari na nga sa pinas di ba, so would you put your trust on mythbusters? one test by 2 crazy guys does not prove/disprove anything. if they did it 1 million times ok, pero a few times, not really. and remember the test they did was they had the celphone right beside the gas fill hole, too rich vapor/air mixture, won't go boom. you can even put a lit cigarete there, no effect either.

The Mythbusters have done this test twice (they did a revisit on this test). The 2nd test, they had a secondary ignition source to prove that the gasoline vapor inside the test chamber will ignite (because its possible that the vapors is either too lean or too rich to ignition).

Personally, I do not believe that correctly operating celfones can cause a fire.

[BlueBimmer]

The Mythbusters have done this test twice (they did a revisit on this test). The 2nd test, they had a secondary ignition source to prove that the gasoline vapor inside the test chamber will ignite (because its possible that the vapors is either too lean or too rich to ignition).

Personally, I do not believe that correctly operating celfones can cause a fire.

yep they even filled the chamber with LOTS of fuel vapors. IMO the myth is really busted.

[ian_rex]

actually, i'll comply. even if my wife and kids are inside. ok lang yun. for safety reasons. besides, one time, my diesel pick-up was accidentally filled-up with gasoline! imagine what a hustle it would brought me if the gasoline contaminated my engine? from thereon, i make it a point to turn off my engine when filling up. as for the mobile phone, the call could wait... whoever the caller maybe...

[cutedoc]

im one of those doesnt follow rules, hehehe, i use my fone pa nga e, hehe actually the fumes that he gas emits and the spark that a moblie fon produces could and might ignite, but is it really possible?

sa chuch and moviehouse i turn my phone to silent=)

[empy]

yes, turn off engine for safety purposes. i don't believe that cellphones are a danger at gas stations, and i talk on the phone all the time while i'm filling up (self-serve pa nga ang mga gas stations dito eh). maybe if i thought there was a risk that my cellphone would explode, i would turn it off, but then what the hell am i doing with an exploding cellphone anyway? ;)

[patron]

Another potential benefit of turning off your mobile phone is better Situational Awareness. Not actively using you cellphone gives you more time to be alert of your surroundings, lalo na sa mga suspicious characters or mga CJs. Gas stations (lalo na sa Congressional) seems to be one of CJ's favorite spot.

[empy]

Another potential benefit of turning off your mobile phone is better Situational Awareness. Not actively using you cellphone gives you more time to be alert of your surroundings, lalo na sa mga suspicious characters or mga CJs. Gas stations (lalo na sa Congressional) seems to be one of CJ's favorite spot.

eh pano kung biglang umatake yung suspicious characters? nakapatay yung cellphone mo so hindi ka makakatawag ng tulong

[EssB]

kung tutuusin, mas delikado yung nagpapatay pa ng engine eh... kasi whenever you start the engine again, sparks are generated on the carbon brushes of the starter motor...

about the cell phone? myth busted by MythBusters....

[leinahtan]

I would turn both off. Safety first.

[the_wildthing]

Engine, yes. Gusto ko lang. Siguro dahil mga 3 minutes din na naka-idle. Siguro dahil sa paranoia, baka may sumalisi at itakbo ang sasakyan. Siguro dahil may naka-lagay na sign at sumusunod lang ako.

Cell phone, no. Iwan ko lang sa loob. Di ko naman ginagamit e. Mahirap may kausap sa telepono habang nag-ga-gas. Baka mali ang credit card na ibalik sa 'yo. Mahirap ding pumirma kung hindi hands free. Mahirap mag-karga habang kausap (in the case of self-service).

[JohnM]

Dati hassle dahil may sira starter ko. Minsan kelangan ng limang clicks bago mag-start. No problems na after I added a starter relay. Di naman problema ang init dahil mga 5 mins max lang ang full tank. Besides shaded naman ang pumps kaya di ka nakabilad.

[ssaloon]

yes i turn off the engine.

[JohnM]

Pansin ko lang: on most cars with a single tailpipe opposite sides ang fuel filler at ang tambutso.

[city]

may nangyari na ba dito sa pinas na nagliyab gawa ng running engine while filling up and/or using a cell?..i didn't know that.

I don't believe celfones can cause fire or combustion...it's a misconception really.

[larshell]

may nangyari na ba dito sa pinas na nagliyab gawa ng running engine while filling up and/or using a cell?..i didn't know that.

I don't believe celfones can cause fire or combustion...it's a misconception really.

I dont know the exact time and date, there is one incedent happen in palawan.One family rented L300 van they make a stop at the gas station driver did not turnoff engine, Daddy went out to buy some snack together with mom, baby boy and 6yrs old girl left inside the van together wd lola and yaya.Sudenly daddy is shouting from the store, Apoy! Apoy! he saw fire coming under the van. buti nalang 2 sliding door ng L300 and the baby wd the yaya is at the 3rd row seat, sila ang huling nakalabas yaya suffer a 1st deegree burn. L300 van totally burned.

Kung minsan konting hustle lang ang kapalit ng kaligtasan natin at ng ibang tao. Think Safety! Act Safely!

[ghosthunter]

I dont know the exact time and date, there is one incedent happen in palawan.One family rented L300 van they make a stop at the gas station driver did not turnoff engine, Daddy went out to buy some snack together with mom, baby boy and 6yrs old girl left inside the van together wd lola and yaya.Sudenly daddy is shouting from the store, Apoy! Apoy! he saw fire coming under the van. buti nalang 2 sliding door ng L300 and the baby wd the yaya is at the 3rd row seat, sila ang huling nakalabas yaya suffer a 1st deegree burn. L300 van totally burned.

and was this incident documented in some newspaper article or simply heard from someone else? And what was the cause of this fire?

[larshell]

and was this incident documented in some newspaper article or simply heard from someone else? And what was the cause of this fire?

Yes, it is documented kaya lang puro fax copy lang ang hawak ko. I dont know if this is captured by the media.

[ghosthunter]

may nangyari na ba dito sa pinas na nagliyab gawa ng running engine while filling up and/or using a cell?..i didn't know that.

I don't believe celfones can cause fire or combustion...it's a misconception really.

there has been no incident of a fire at a gasoline station started by a celfone. Its all because of a chain-email sent around years ago that started that misconception.