How do you resign without paying a bond?

[killer_eyes]

barokbok

tnx for the reply nde naman actually yung walang increase ang prob namin...baka lang kasi after nung training eh baka nde worth yung sasahurin namin...tipong parang nde tumaas yung value namin as an employee.... pero ok namana ng treatment nila sa amin eh gusto ko lang malaman yung dapat gawin just in case na ganun nga...
kasi halimbawa lang na sahod namin ngayon is 10K tapos pagbalik namin eh 12K lang papasahod syempre unreasonable naman yung ganun...example lang naman po..salamat na din sa info

[1D4LV]

barokbok

tnx for the reply nde naman actually yung walang increase ang prob namin...baka lang kasi after nung training eh baka nde worth yung sasahurin namin...tipong parang nde tumaas yung value namin as an employee.... pero ok namana ng treatment nila sa amin eh gusto ko lang malaman yung dapat gawin just in case na ganun nga...
kasi halimbawa lang na sahod namin ngayon is 10K tapos pagbalik namin eh 12K lang papasahod syempre unreasonable naman yung ganun...example lang naman po..salamat na din sa info

killer, sorry to butt in pre, pero imho, getting a training does not necessarily mean na may salary increase na included. salary increases depend on many factors eh, including company profits/losses, budgetary requirements and availability, etc.

depende yan sa company guidelines nyo o kaya sa agreement nyo during the initial hiring stages tol. in the first place, during hiring, dapat na discuss na yan ng personnel dept.

[pajerokid]

Any training incurred by emlployees will always be part of their resumes :D Wala Lang :|

[IGX]

What if sabi sayo ng company your going abroad for training on Business, Financial bla bla bla. Pero pagdating mo doon e magtratrabaho ka din pala, no actual training more on application of your knowledge.

More of transitioning of a system from one person to you than you learning new things from them...

Pwede ba itong grounds for a complaint later on...

[killer_eyes]

tiger
tnx for the input nag aalala lang ako pag uwi hope ok naman

[manilatonight.com]

the other way to get out without paying the bond, even though you signed up a contract, is to resign and forget the clearance/graceful exit... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: the only twist here is you can never got back to your former employer again :roll: :roll: :roll:

Naku, baka makulong ang gagawa nyan. If you sign a contract, you are legally bound to it. And if you try to weasel out of it, lagot ka sa employer mo.

They can publish your picture in the papers warning other employers. They can sue you for breach of contract and you'll end up paying more. Worse, you might even be jailed.

[IGX]

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[DITTO]

the other way to get out without paying the bond, even though you signed up a contract, is to resign and forget the clearance/graceful exit... :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: the only twist here is you can never got back to your former employer again :roll: :roll: :roll:

Naku, baka makulong ang gagawa nyan. If you sign a contract, you are legally bound to it. And if you try to weasel out of it, lagot ka sa employer mo.

They can publish your picture in the papers warning other employers. They can sue you for breach of contract and you'll end up paying more. Worse, you might even be jailed.

i agrreee(kaya nga may tatlong evil na icons), especially if you're in a small company.... but if you're in a big or multinational companies, they won't bother running after you since it would be a bad publicity for them...
IMO lang po ... :wink:

[1D4LV]

What if sabi sayo ng company your going abroad for training on Business, Financial bla bla bla. Pero pagdating mo doon e magtratrabaho ka din pala, no actual training more on application of your knowledge.

More of transitioning of a system from one person to you than you learning new things from them...

Pwede ba itong grounds for a complaint later on...

technically, there are two kinds of training eh. the first kind is yung what we call as formal training. eto yung classroom type, cbt's, online trainings, etc. and the second kind is yung actual and experience training. eto yung parang OJT.

your example above can fall on the second kind (ojt).

what i would recommend is to have everything documented before the start of the supposed to be training. yung contract should state clearly what training is scheduled or will be given to you. everything should be clear before signing the contract.

ngayon for example if your employer violates what is on the contract, for example. they are supposed to give you a formal training, but actually they gave you an experience training, pwede sigurong i contest yun with your HR first. HR should decide on the action to take on your complaint and should explain the details of their action to you. ngayon kung medyo dissatisfied ka sa explanation and actions nila, then it can be elevated siguro on the next level.

[Kalinaw_75]

What if sabi sayo ng company your going abroad for training on Business, Financial bla bla bla. Pero pagdating mo doon e magtratrabaho ka din pala, no actual training more on application of your knowledge.

More of transitioning of a system from one person to you than you learning new things from them...

Pwede ba itong grounds for a complaint later on...

Most of the time when you say overseas training..... its not just a plain training program. It would be followed by hands-on the idea is to get someone interacting with the gurus while they transfer the technology likewise your employer need to establish a good communication bonding between the vendor or customer. So its not merely a training once you signed the contract but its a more burden on your side.

So hindi mo puedeng gawing grounds sa pag complaint mo.

[IGX]

Guys,

I'll try to post a portion of the contract when I get it from my friend, baka mas madaling interpret, ako din kasi d ko maintindihan ng mabuti...

[mykelan212002]

sana po mabuhay pa etong thread.


ako kasi meron pa akong contrata sa company ko, gsto ko umalis kaso ung lilipatan ko nmn is client nmn...


sa tingin niyo anu pwede mangyari?

[ryan_f02]

meron po ba dito nag issue ng post dated checks sa company nila for payment sa binding nila?

[TechieN00b]

Ang simple answer po dito is:

kung standard ang contract, AT PUMIRMA ANG KAIBIGAN MO SA BOND, wala pong kawala .

You can negotiate with the company for deferred payments, if they will allow it. There is also such a thing as exit negotiations. Depending on the rank of your friend, you exit negotiations may prove fruitful.

During the nego of exit terms, keep in mind that most company do not want to be burdened with legal problems, you may want to try to 'feel' how much your friends company is willing to pay just to be able to avoid a legal clash. Baka may alas kaibigan mo (probable ***ual harassment case, halimbawa, laban sa boss nya, hehehe).

I have been there, and sadly, I have to pay. I consulted a lawyer if I can claim signing under duress and sadly, her answer was no. I signed it freely and I have to abide by the bond.

Ngayon, ibang usapan kung wala pinirmahang bond yung friend mo ha. Puro 'verbal' statements lang na may bond sila.

[calasanzrui13]

guys help. trainee ako ngaun and if i passed the training i will be employed by the company, the catch is kapag hindi mo tinapos ung training you need to pay 40k. eh nakatangap na ko ng ibang job offer na line ko tlga. so gusto ko na syang igrab kaso nabobother ako sa pwedeng manyare.tska maliit lng ung company. baka tlgang habulin pa nila ako. ANY ADVICE? pwede bang mag awol nlng ako?

[_Qwerty_]

kung may pinirmahan kang contract.. at di mo tinapos yung training.. eh di bayad ka nang 40T..

next time bago kayo pumirma.. think not once, twice, thrice even 4x..

[KERSMcRae]

how about if you will not pass the training, may conditions pa ba?

[ghosthunter]

guys help. trainee ako ngaun and if i passed the training i will be employed by the company, the catch is kapag hindi mo tinapos ung training you need to pay 40k. eh nakatangap na ko ng ibang job offer na line ko tlga. so gusto ko na syang igrab kaso nabobother ako sa pwedeng manyare.tska maliit lng ung company. baka tlgang habulin pa nila ako. ANY ADVICE? pwede bang mag awol nlng ako?

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[ghosthunter]

guys help. trainee ako ngaun and if i passed the training i will be employed by the company, the catch is kapag hindi mo tinapos ung training you need to pay 40k. eh nakatangap na ko ng ibang job offer na line ko tlga. so gusto ko na syang igrab kaso nabobother ako sa pwedeng manyare.tska maliit lng ung company. baka tlgang habulin pa nila ako. ANY ADVICE? pwede bang mag awol nlng ako?

Yes, my advise, if you really want to move to the other company, pay the P40,000. Otherwise, work for them for the minimum period then transfer jobs.

[_Qwerty_]

pansin ko sa mga kabataan ngayon.. ganyan.. masyadong papalit palit nang isip.. or mabilis masilaw sa malaking sweldo..