Does school really matter?

[viper888]

My 2 cents lang. Kung ang course mo may licensure exam hindi gaano ka important kung saan ka grad as long as pasado. But for those like mngt mktg etc. Lamang talaga yung top3 universities. Kapag licensed ka kasi diskarte na at yung nga EQ na ang mahalaga. From my experience lang ha. It helps siyempre na nasa top ka din nang batch mo.

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On the other hand, a top 4 university is likely to have a much higher passing rate than others. When my dad hires, he prefers up or ust grads.

Another thing, if a kid comes from a ahs, xavier, dlgh, dlsz, poveda, etc. He/she has a higher chance if getting in a top university.


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[bloowolf]

On the other hand, a top 4 university is likely to have a much higher passing rate than others. When my dad hires, he prefers up or ust grads.

Another thing, if a kid comes from a ahs, xavier, dlgh, dlsz, poveda, etc. He/she has a higher chance if getting in a top university.


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DLSU & ADMU will always prioritize students coming from their HS. Getting in is one thing, staying in is another.

[dreamur]

The problem with today's board exam (CPA for example) is it is mostly a multiple choice type. There is always a chance na 'nakatsamba' as opposed to the old school where one has to present a full blown financials. Interviewed a lot oc CPAs from the top U who cant even complete a simple bank reconciliation.

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[vinj]

Sorry I wasn't very clear on my previous post. In the context employment after graduation, it's really the collegiate level that matters. In my experience, very little attention was given to where I graduated high school. Most top multinationals will care more about a guy who graduated from the top universities evSorry I wasn't very clear on my previous post. In the context employment after graduation, it's really the collegiate level that matters. In my experience, very little attention was given to where I graduated high school. Most top multinationals will care more about a guy who graduated from the top universities even if they came from no-name high schools, than a guy who came from one of the top private high schools but graduated from a no-name college.

I agree, college degree is what the company will really look at. In fact, if someone from a no-name high school and gets into a good college and performs well, that is plus points on the part of recruitment. Attitude though, is something that the company , superiors and co-workers will learn over time and that is something a college education alone cannot determine, although it can reinforce and correct (as i have seen with some people who were taken in as scholars and guided by their mentors... too bad with the size of school populations today, it is quite hard to develop an intimate level of student-mentor relationship as it was many years ago.).

Re. the rivalry, I feel that a good part of it is because the games today are relatively "nice guy" as compared to before. You don't have the players with real deal angas attitudes and games that would result in bench clearing brawls (bad as it may be in terms of being a role model, a lot will admit it was still part of the fun). When i watch games live, it seems another part is because a lot of students in the last decade have gotten used to winning, nawala na yung gutom and puso to stand up and cheer all throughout until you lose your voice.

[Dende]

Kapag first job, medyo nagmamatter ang school. Mas prioritized big schools. Naalala ko pa na kapag big school ka pwede ka dumiretso sa officership training program para diretso assistant manager ka na agad.

Pero kapag may experience na, wala na ang schools. Network, capability at impression na ang basehan sa paghire. Kapag may kilala ka dito at magaling ka at alam nila na magpeperform ka kahit sa probinsya pa college mo ihihire ka.

Maraming Managers and VPs sa tinatrabahuan ko na hindi nag aral sa mga top schools yet andun sila ngayon. Yung boss ko rin ngayon di galing sa top schools pero mataas pa rin narating niya. Yung course niya hindi rin related sa work namin pero ayun successful pa rin siya

Stepping ladder lang ang schools, pati rin ang course. Mas importante pa rin attitude mo sa trabaho.


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[remzam]

The problem with today's board exam (CPA for example) is it is mostly a multiple choice type. There is always a chance na 'nakatsamba' as opposed to the old school where one has to present a full blown financials. Interviewed a lot oc CPAs from the top U who cant even complete a simple bank reconciliation.

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The problem also with board exam reviews is they teach you to right the right answers the fastest way possible. They teach you to pass the exam. Not analyze and solve the problem. All review schools are like that. You study four or five years in college and they compress it in 6 months or less and give you sample questions that have been used or are still in use and will be used during the board exams.

There lies the difference of getting a college diploma and getting an education. I remember someone posted here asking for a college/university where he/she can easily get a diploma.

More than the intellect, the attitude is what is developed during your university experience.

You can know everything in theory but there is more beyond that in the real world. Sometimes dealing with different kinds of people and knowing how to will make you more successful in life.

That's why NOT ONLY things that are taught inside the classrooms are important. Organizations, friends and extra curricular matters as well.


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[remzam]

Also depende rin yan sa company or organization that you want to apply for.

If most of the top management, let say, came from UP, they will prefer to get graduates from UP. That applies to Ateneo or DLSU also. Kasi beyond work, yung rapport yung importante.

Like it is safe to generalize, many from UP have the same wavelength. Nagkakaintindihan kung baga. Mga taga Ateneo halos iisa rin ang training or way of thinking. DLSU same. Kasi it's the university that molds you.

But of course merong mga outliers.


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[jut703]

Also depende rin yan sa company or organization that you want to apply for.

If most of the top management, let say, came from UP, they will prefer to get graduates from UP. That applies to Ateneo or DLSU also. Kasi beyond work, yung rapport yung importante.

Like it is safe to generalize, many from UP have the same wavelength. Nagkakaintindihan kung baga. Mga taga Ateneo halos iisa rin ang training or way of thinking. DLSU same. Kasi it's the university that molds you.

But of course merong mga outliers.


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Depends on the organization. In my old company, of a team of 30, we had the ff:

DLSU - 7
AdMU - 7
USC - 4
UPD - 3
UPLB - 2
UST - 2
UA&P - 2
Others - 3

Pretty diverse if you ask me. Even if the CEO and GM were from DLSU, they picked guys based on competence and not school affiliation.




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[CVT]

Also depende rin yan sa company or organization that you want to apply for.

If most of the top management, let say, came from UP, they will prefer to get graduates from UP. That applies to Ateneo or DLSU also. Kasi beyond work, yung rapport yung importante.

Like it is safe to generalize, many from UP have the same wavelength. Nagkakaintindihan kung baga. Mga taga Ateneo halos iisa rin ang training or way of thinking. DLSU same. Kasi it's the university that molds you.

But of course merong mga outliers.


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I beg to disagree dear bro.

It does not speak well of the person's management style. It will polarize the organization.

In my case, I would choose the candidate based on his/her qualifications and (perceived) attitude towards work.

In fact, over the years, I/we hired only one or two from the university where I came from, the rest are from the other universities.

There is strength in diversity.


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[safeorigin]

for an entrepreneur, it doesn't matter which school he comes from.

it ultimately depends on work ethic.

I've had two pharmacists work for me before.

One came from UP while the other came from ULS(University of La Salette)

The one from UP demands she gets paid full time even though she only comes twice a week(yeah, professional ghost employee happens)

While the other works her ass off regardless of how much I pay her.

Well, you get the idea who I dumped.

The only reason I agreed to temporarily hire the one from UP is because of the stupid law.

[kimbon]

this is kinda interesting articles but OT nga lang. wala magtataas ng kilay dyan.

According to JobStreet, PUP graduates topped the employer’s choice survey.
Which university is most preferred by employers hiring fresh grads | Money | GMA News Online

[vinj]

^Doesn't raise eyebrows really. You want to hire qualified fresh graduates who will stay in the long run and give honest hard work and have no qualms about position; sadly, a lot of big name University grads have too high expectations and forget the basics of working up the ladder nowadays.

In fact, over the years, I/we hired only one or two from the university where I came from, the rest are from the other universities.

There is strength in diversity.

I-joke din sana kita na maganda din kasi yung mga nag-apply from other universities.... pero nandyan nga pala si Mrs. CVT

[GeorgeBee]

^Doesn't raise eyebrows really. You want to hire fresh graduates who will stay in the long run and give honest hard work and have no qualms about position; sadly, a lot of big name University grads have too high expectations and forget the basics of working up the ladder nowadays.

Unfortunately, the Philippines is not alone in this. I worked in Kuala Lumpur before we came here and had to do some interviewing for a Graduate Engineer. It was possibly the most depressing week of my life. Here's some examples;-

"When will I be running my own projects?" - These were multi million dollar rail projects - "Hmm, let's say next week?"!
"I'm really interested in designing roads" - Obviously taught good research skills, the one thing we didn't do was design roads!
"When do I become a manager?" - "Here, have my job, I suddenly have the overwhelming desire to drown myself in a large Tiger beer"

One guy, when asked what he knew about our company took a sheet of paper out of his pocket and started reading the home page of our website!

What I found really surprising was that around 60%, when told that we expected them to think for themselves, question solutions (English style!) and were basically saying, "Write your own job description dependent on your interests and we'll support you" said that that method didn't work for them. They wanted strict orders and instructions for each and every task.

And then of course, there were the ones that just didn't bother to turn up at all...

No wonder I drink!

[jack_husain]

Of course, it does, especially if you're from Wharton (even if you didn't graduate their masters program) or Yale or Stanford or Harvard. You go back here you'll become secretary of DOTC or DILG or president of MNCs.

[shadow]

^duts ikaw ba yan?[emoji23] pinagpipilitan pa rin?


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[dreamur]

Lakas talaga ni digong sa mga bisdak. Ako lang yata at si mrs ang hindi pa convinced.

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[shadow]

Lakas talaga ni digong sa mga bisdak. Ako lang yata at si mrs ang hindi pa convinced.

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Meaning ng Bisdak?

[dreamur]

Bisayang Daku (native from the visayan region). Im proudly one but not with the Du30 bandwagon.

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[viper888]

Actually the problem with hiring someone from a top university is that they have no intentions of climbing up the corporate ladder. They're more likely to take their first job for experience and leave after a few years before building their own start up or joining the family business.

They wont have any real ambition for a promotion in their job. They would work but they simply wont do the extra mile since they don't need it. No way in hell would they go to work on weekends since they dont need the promotion or the overtime pay.


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[CVT]

^

I-joke din sana kita na maganda din kasi yung mga nag-apply from other universities.... pero nandyan nga pala si Mrs. CVT

Bro,- shhhhhh.... hwag masyadong ibalita at baka dumugin ako ng mga tsikoteers dito sa opis namin...


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