Does school really matter?

[frostmourn]

Kaso exemptions tayo kesa norm. Sadly, marami talaga companies na prefer nila top schools. That is the reality. School does matter especially if wala kang titulo/pasado sa isang board exam. Kasi kung engr or CPA, kahit ano pa school, puwede mo sabihin na pareho naman kasyo pasado, kahit papano may weight yun imho. Yan observation ko.

Im not cpa and hindi accountancy course ko pero nung job offer sa akin ng smc we have same salary nung cpa. Lol. I dont know why gulat ako. Pero the finance head told us na san miguel dont consider a licensed one its good to have but not a must sabi nya. She further inform us na we will both undergo the same training. I ended up not getting the offer since mukang galit yung kasabay ko sa job offer. Hmmm. ''Experience will always speak for you.''

[chua_riwap]

Totoo yan.

May neighbor kami na graduate sa isang never heard na school sa mindanao, w/ honors. 2 pa kurso tinapos.

Unfortunately wala gusto kumuha sa kanya. Bagsak nya sa landmark, saleslady.

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[crazy_boy]

kailangan talaga may maniwala sayo. bigyan ka ng chance nung interviewer and ng potential boss mo kung hindi ka galing sa top schools.

tama si shadow, madalas pag galing top schools, nagiging mapili na sa trabaho. gusto high ranking agad.

[badkuk]

Know this though: the top companies here in PH will only consider graduates from the top 3 universities.

To be fair to the "top" universities, they do have better facilities. This advantage is especially obvious when you take up a technical course. And the best minds/teachers also tend to gravitate to the better universities, for the same reasons.

Back in HS, we only had two sessions of basic computer training monthly; some schools had programming as part of their currirculum as early as junior HS. Result? nagkandarapa mga schoolmates ko when we were in college, for the other guys it was just like an extension of their HS.


imho, if you can afford it, go to the better universities; if you can't afford it, prove the naysayers wrong

[badkuk]

kailangan talaga may maniwala sayo. bigyan ka ng chance nung interviewer and ng potential boss mo kung hindi ka galing sa top schools.

Sad to say, very few employers are interested in giving chances...they're more concerned with the business itself.

tama si shadow, madalas pag galing top schools, nagiging mapili na sa trabaho. gusto high ranking agad.

Hmm, even UP?

My aunt who worked at a bank had this observation as well. Gusto yung matataas na sweldo pa. i came from a "top" university( i use the term "top" very loosely) but i felt that i lacked actual skills, so i started as a PC engineer, taught myself Linux and Windows, bought second hand networking equipment at HMR and learned by trial and error.

Still not successful though, bad career choices :p

[madduck]

It does matter.
When I was looking for my first job, some companies will let you fill up forms where you'd select your university. It said, UP, Ateneo, La Salle, Others.
I hated it, continued the application but did not accept their offer.

In some companies, even grades matter.
I applied for a computer programming job. Finished the hands-on exam in 15 minutes. I got a perfect score.
The boss even asked me if their exam was too easy.
They gave me a job offer, but the pay was lower than the guy I know there, entry level too. He was an honor student.
I told the HR why am I getting a lower pay. We were both fresh grad. We took the same exam. We came from the same school.
She said that pay is for honor students. I asked, what was his score in their programming exam? How long did it take him to finish? She said it does not matter. I didn't accepted the offer.

[ClaNker]

It does matter.
When I was looking for my first job, some companies will let you fill up forms where you'd select your university. It said, UP, Ateneo, La Salle, Others.
I hated it, continued the application but did not accept their offer.

In some companies, even grades matter.
I applied for a computer programming job. Finished the hands-on exam in 15 minutes. I got a perfect score.
The boss even asked me if their exam was too easy.
They gave me a job offer, but the pay was lower than the guy I know there, entry level too. He was an honor student.
I told the HR why am I getting a lower pay. We were both fresh grad. We took the same exam. We came from the same school.
She said that pay is for honor students. I asked, what was his score in their programming exam? How long did it take him to finish? She said it does not matter. I didn't accepted the offer.

Goes to show some do have stupid pay structure.

[shelu]

Ako po ay galing sa isang state university na mahilig magreklamo at magsunog nang silya ( nagrebelde po kasi ako sa aking AMA na hindi nya ako kailangan pag aralin pa at ako na magtustos sa aking pag aaral - Php 300 lang po kasi ang tuition fee ko noon ) Ano po ang dahilan nila para magreklamo ay para walang pasok dahil pagkasama sila sa rally (LFS) exempted po sila sa klase.

Dahil po school bukol ang tema nang aming klase ay halos wala po akong natutunan dahil laging late pumasok ang mga professor at kadalasan iiwanan ka lang nang assignment. Hindi po kagandahan ang aking mga grades noong nag-aaral ako dahil po hindi din naman ako pressure nang aking INA na mataas ang grades ang kanya po ay makapasa OK NA ang katwiran yun lang po ang kaya nang utak ko.

Noong naghahanap po ako nang trabaho, halos araw araw ako ay umaalis upang mag-apply. Hindi na po ako namimili nang trabaho kahit po maging agent nang FOREX noon ay pinasok ko. Kadahilan ayaw po akong tanggapin kasi daw po sa pinanggalingan ko school at sa kakarampot ko na nalalaman. Lalong lalo na po hindi nadevelop ang aking conversation skills. Baluktot ang aking english mahihiya po ang tiga bundok.

Pinasok ko po ang isang trabaho na ayaw na ayaw nang aking AMA dahil isa po syang Vice President nang isang kompanya dahil daw po nakakahiya. Ayaw ko naman pong patulong sa kanila na makahanap ako nang trabaho kaya po nagsikap ako makahanap kahit isang STOREKEEPER po in short BODEGERO. Doon po ako nagsimula isang kargador. Isang araw napag isipan ko kausapin ang aking INA na akoy nahihirapan na pero ang aking hiling ay pag aralin akong muli at hindi para sa kompanya nang aking pamilya.

Nagmaster po ako sa ginto at doon ko po natutunan ang tamang pagsusumikap. Hindi po totoo ang HARD WORK ang tama po pala ay WORK SMART. Hanggang ngayon po ay patuloy kong dinadagdagan ang aking kaalamanan at koneksyon... Pumasok po ulit ako sa school at kumuha nang kurso na makakakapagbigay sa akin nang kaalamanan at koneksyon doon ko po nakuha yun sa Agila.

Dahil po sa aking pagsusumikap nakamit ko na po ang aking gusto na magtsikot nang walang sisita sa akin.

PUP sta. mesa?

[jut703]

tama si shadow, madalas pag galing top schools, nagiging mapili na sa trabaho. gusto high ranking agad.

Eto rin ang feedback samin nung college before we began applying for jobs. My theory is that akala ng mga conyo rich kids mamemaintain nila yung lifestyle nila once they start working without asking from their parents. Akala nila ang normal starting salary ay 30k pataas, regardless of merit.

But to be fair, kung galing ka sa magandang school, maganda org involvement mo, may honors ka. Mali ba na magexpect na you start a little better off than the others?


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[uls]

the reason why rich kids expect or demand high salary agad is coz they're used to receiving money without working for it

they're not gonna get out of bed for 20k or 30k/month... it's not worth the effort

[_Qwerty_]

dami akong kilalang ganyan.. sumusweldo na pero may allowance pa din galing parents.. pano entry level pa lang naka kotse na.. parking at gas pa lang kulang na yung sweldo.. masabi lang na may trabaho pero nakaasa pa din sa magulang..

[uls]

sa lagay na yan proud pa ang mga magulang kasi nagtatrabaho na ang anak

[uls]

yung ibang magulang naman ayaw patrabahuin ang anak

mag aral nalang daw

kaya ayan naka ilan degree na nag aaral parin hehe

[Ry_Tower]

Im not cpa and hindi accountancy course ko pero nung job offer sa akin ng smc we have same salary nung cpa. Lol. I dont know why gulat ako. Pero the finance head told us na san miguel dont consider a licensed one its good to have but not a must sabi nya. She further inform us na we will both undergo the same training. I ended up not getting the offer since mukang galit yung kasabay ko sa job offer. Hmmm. ''Experience will always speak for you.''

May EXPERIENCE factor na kasi. Kaya nga sabi dito, 1st job, malaking bagay yung school name. But the further you go, nasa tao na at EQ niya magdedetermine talaga.

[jick.cejoco]

some of these kids who graduated from the "top" schools have their noses up in the air. filipinos always love name dropping. of course you do not start from the top when you first get hired unless you came from another company from a moderate to high position. but if the applicant is a fresh graduate, it does not matter from which school, he will not start as a ceo unless he has learned the ropes. similar to the military, you do not start as a major when you graduate from the academy. you've got to earn the battle scars to earn the medals and the brass.

[uls]

but in the real world kids with well-connected parents really do get high paying jobs

[_Qwerty_]

kahit saang school.. kung san kaya kang pag aralin nang magulang mo.. ang mahalaga.. pagbutihin mo ang pag aaral mo.. pagandahin mo ang transcript mo.. yan ang magiging bala mo para makakuha nang magandang trabaho..

[Ry_Tower]

some of these kids who graduated from the "top" schools have their noses up in the air. filipinos always love name dropping. of course you do not start from the top when you first get hired unless you came from another company from a moderate to high position. but if the applicant is a fresh graduate, it does not matter from which school, he will not start as a ceo unless he has learned the ropes. similar to the military, you do not start as a major when you graduate from the academy. you've got to earn the battle scars to earn the medals and the brass.

But a fresh PMA graduate is a tiniente already vs a praybayt from a non-PMA academe.

It does matter even in the military.

[jick.cejoco]

yung ibang magulang naman ayaw patrabahuin ang anak

mag aral nalang daw

kaya ayan naka ilan degree na nag aaral parin hehe

these are the people who will retire as students for life.

i know of someone who has four bachelor degrees and one master's. he is a house husband and makes his wife work for a living. no pride. mabuti pa ang karamihan ng filipino, maraming pride:
pride rice
pride cheeken
pride fish.....

[Ry_Tower]

but in the realA world kids with well-connected parents really do get high paying jobs

Apprentice agad ni Sr. Manager or ni VP.

Supervisor agad sa sariling company or sa company nang kaibigan ni Papang.