Mazda3

[lamborghinione]

Pag na-achieve ko yung 17.24 km/L na FC sa constant speed na 80 km/h( more or less mga 2200 rpm to) equivalent to 5.8 L/100km reading sa Trip computer, mapapantayan na ng 1.6L M3 ko yung FC ng Civic sa highway driving.

But the question is yung na-achieve ng Civic na 17++km/L, e 80km/h din po kaya yung observed speed?

By the way, because I already achieved near 17km/L FC, I'm expecting a more decent FC for 2010 Mazda3, this is because of the following facts:

1. 2010 M3 has better power to weight ratio because it weights less than 150 kg compared to current M3
2. More aerodynamic than current M3 because of drag coefficient of 0.29 only
3. Has 5 speed A/T(Imagine kung 5 speed yung 1.6L M3 ko at 2200 rpm?! Ang laking jump siguro nito sa FC ko!)

Yung i-stop technology kasi sa city driving lang to mapapakinabangan.

[carlo_41786]

2. Odometer - Bago pa nmn, pareho tau ng odo na asa 3,000 level. Im hoping sa 5,000kms luluwag na ang mag-improve na ung FC.

3. Tire Pressure: Parang mababa ata. Ang recommeded is 35-42 if I remember correctly..

Regarding sa #2. Medyo OT.
Gaano na katagal oto nyo sir? Kasi sa akin, 2 months palang this coming 20th of may. Parang taas ng Mileago ko?

At dun sa #3. Regarding sa tire pressure. Sa akin kasi, yun yung nakalagay dun sa tire pressure guide sa may loob ng pinto ng driver.

Pag 1 - 3 person, all 32psi pero pag full load it should be 33 psi front and 44 psi rear.

[jrebong0]

1. 3 Months pa lang ang car ko. Im averaging 1,500kms/month.
2. WALA ng pure unleaded sa petron. Puro e10 na. huhuhuhuhu.
3. Regarding FC

Pinagisipan ko pa to ha..

I'm driving at 40kms/hr and the trip says the current FC is 5liters/100kms (20kms/liter). Now the question that's been bothering my mind is, sometimes I drive at 80kms/liter and the current FC is also 5liters/100kms. The questions is -- If I took an 80 kms trip, did the car consume the same amount of petrol at the end?

I think the answer is - it did not. The faster one consumed less petrol.

But then, how to explain where the difference lies? The computer said they are both consuming at a rate of 20kms/liter after all.

Ang naisip ko na sagot dito is that apart from the petrol consumed by the car to power locomotion (This is the one measured by the trip), there is an additional constant(?) rate of consumption that starts when you turn on the car and ends only when you shut it down (Which is not measured by the trip)

Mapapansin mo itong consumption na ito pag asa idle. If you leave the car in idle for 3 hours halimbawa, bababa ung gas di ba?

So the real consumption of the car would be some formula consisting of
X = Running Consumption
Y = Idle/Constant Consumption
H = Hours Driven

So back to our question - mas matipid mas mabilis kasi we arrive on our destination faster. Say 30 minutes faster. That would mean na less 30 mins of idle/constant consumption was saved.

Yes, I feel you need to know this things

[carlo_41786]

1. 3 Months pa lang ang car ko. Im averaging 1,500kms/month.
2. WALA ng pure unleaded sa petron. Puro e10 na. huhuhuhuhu.
3. Regarding FC

Pinagisipan ko pa to ha..

I'm driving at 40kms/hr and the trip says the current FC is 5liters/100kms (20kms/liter). Now the question that's been bothering my mind is, sometimes I drive at 80kms/liter and the current FC is also 5liters/100kms. The questions is -- If I took an 80 kms trip, did the car consume the same amount of petrol at the end?

I think the answer is - it did not. The faster one consumed less petrol.

But then, how to explain where the difference lies? The computer said they are both consuming at a rate of 20kms/liter after all.

Ang naisip ko na sagot dito is that apart from the petrol consumed by the car to power locomotion (This is the one measured by the trip), there is an additional constant(?) rate of consumption that starts when you turn on the car and ends only when you shut it down (Which is not measured by the trip)

Mapapansin mo itong consumption na ito pag asa idle. If you leave the car in idle for 3 hours halimbawa, bababa ung gas di ba?

So the real consumption of the car would be some formula consisting of
X = Running Consumption
Y = Idle/Constant Consumption
H = Hours Driven

So back to our question - mas matipid mas mabilis kasi we arrive on our destination faster. Say 30 minutes faster. That would mean na less 30 mins of idle/constant consumption was saved.

Yes, I feel you need to know this things

WoW! Nice observation. Galing galing naman sir.
Pero ask ko lang. Db may trip meter sasakyan natin? Pasulong lang ba na takbo ang kinukwenta nun?

Or kung aatras ako ng 1km Mababawasan ba ng 1Km yung mileage ko? Hahah.. Di ko pa natry, Pakisagot nalang sir. Thanks.

[Impulze]

WoW! Nice observation. Galing galing naman sir.
Pero ask ko lang. Db may trip meter sasakyan natin? Pasulong lang ba na takbo ang kinukwenta nun?

Or kung aatras ako ng 1km Mababawasan ba ng 1Km yung mileage ko? Hahah.. Di ko pa natry, Pakisagot nalang sir. Thanks.

hehe of course not, kung bababa ang mileage kapag umaatras ka, might as well drive backwards papunta sa destination mo to cheat the mileage counter :D

[carlo_41786]

hehe of course not, kung bababa ang mileage kapag umaatras ka, might as well drive backwards papunta sa destination mo to cheat the mileage counter :D

Hehe. Sabi ko na nga ba eh. Anga Anga ko.
Pero ano naman mangyayari pag pinaandar ko nga ang kotse ng paatras for 1km. Will it add 1km sa odo at sa trip meter.

Sorry po sa OT. medyo curios lang.

[lamborghinione]

Sa mga action movies ko lang yata nakikita yung umaandar na kotse na paatras e. Anyway IMO, add pa rin sa odometer yung 1 km na na-travel mo regardless kung backward o forward man. Tama na O.T. Kung anu-ano kasi iniisip ni sir carlo_41786 e. hehehe.

[carlo_41786]

Sa mga action movies ko lang yata nakikita yung umaandar na kotse na paatras e. Anyway IMO, add pa rin sa odometer yung 1 km na na-travel mo regardless kung backward o forward man. Tama na O.T. Kung anu-ano kasi iniisip ni sir carlo_41786 e. hehehe.

Hmmm, ganun din pala. Kala ko kasi pag umatras, bawas odo.

Kamusta naman ang FC nyo? So far so bad?

Mukhang busy ang lahat ah. Mini EB naman tayo para magkakita-kita naman.

[Corkie]

Kamusta naman ang FC nyo? So far so bad?

I got curious so I measured my FC for 2 weeks. Like Lucious, I don't really pay attention to the fuel consumption since I bought the 3 knowing it had a reputation of being a gas guzzler. Pero yun na nga, I just wanted to see what my carbon footprint looks like.

I use Caltex Gold, have my tires pumped to 38 psi and drive with my wife everyday to and from work. Daily Route is Daang Hari - SLEX - Buendia (drop my wife off) - then to the Fort. Retrace this route pauwi. A/C is always turned on, sometimes even at 2.

First week:

Kms: 498
Liters: 44
FC: 11.3 Kms/L

Second week:

Kms: 459
Liters: 42
FC: 10.9 Kms/L

Mejo mababa pa din, considering that it's mostly highway driving and I seldom get caught in traffic jams (we work at night).

[carlo_41786]

I got curious so I measured my FC for 2 weeks. Like Lucious, I don't really pay attention to the fuel consumption since I bought the 3 knowing it had a reputation of being a gas guzzler. Pero yun na nga, I just wanted to see what my carbon footprint looks like.

I use Caltex Gold, have my tires pumped to 38 psi and drive with my wife everyday to and from work. Daily Route is Daang Hari - SLEX - Buendia (drop my wife off) - then to the Fort. Retrace this route pauwi. A/C is always turned on, sometimes even at 2.

First week:

Kms: 498
Liters: 44
FC: 11.3 Kms/L

Second week:

Kms: 459
Liters: 42
FC: 10.9 Kms/L

Mejo mababa pa din, considering that it's mostly highway driving and I seldom get caught in traffic jams (we work at night).

38 psi sir?

Paraang mataas or mababa lang yung sa akin?

Kasi ako laging 32psi lang, since madalang may angkas. Kasi based on the tire pressure guide na nasa may ibabang bahagi ng pinto(driver side) 32 kapag 1-3 person daw tapos 44 pag full load.

Check nyo nga po sa inyo kung ganun din? or yung sa akin lang ganun?

Thanks.

[jrebong0]

I use Caltex Gold, have my tires pumped to 38 psi and drive with my wife everyday to and from work. Daily Route is Daang Hari - SLEX - Buendia (drop my wife off) - then to the Fort. Retrace this route pauwi. A/C is always turned on, sometimes even at 2.

First week:

Kms: 498
Liters: 44
FC: 11.3 Kms/L

Second week:

Kms: 459
Liters: 42
FC: 10.9 Kms/L

Mejo mababa pa din, considering that it's mostly highway driving and I seldom get caught in traffic jams (we work at night).

Mejo mababa nga pag highway. The last time na nagmeasure ako ng highway, I got 12kms/ltr.. This was when I hit 140kms/hr..

Pag mas mabilis ata mas matipid.. kaso mejo nakakatakot na nga ung ganung speed.

Anyway - The last two refills I am got the following numbers.
1st week: 20 liters = 220 kms = 11kms/liter
2nd week: 35 liters = 324 kms = 9.25kms/liter
Gasoline type: Petron E10

However:

1. Im turning off the A/C whenever I can. e.g. When I drive at night, etc
1st week: 80% of the time no A/C
2nd week: 30-50% of the time no A/C

<> The effect of the A/C on fuel consumption is profound <>

2. No revs above 2,000 rpm and try to maintain a steady pressure on the pedal. No yo-yo like push and pull, no jack-rabbit starts, etc..

Fyi:
Gusto ko sana subukan ung pure unleaded (as opposed to e10) kaso phased-out na ata. Maybe I can try some premium gasoline brand. Siguro when I go and do a provincial trip again. Iba daw talaga pag hindi e10 e..

[Impulze]

i have a stupid question - can we drift using our M3s? Aside from ninipis ang tires, what other damages it can incur?

[carlo_41786]

i have a stupid question - can we drift using our M3s? Aside from ninipis ang tires, what other damages it can incur?

Siguro sir, napanood mo yung commercial ng mom na nagdrift ng mz3 right?

Im not so sure since Matic mz3 and its front wheel drive.

But then, found something on the internet.

This might help.

Preparing to Drift with a Front Wheel Drive Car

1. Go to a large, open area.
2. Pull the handbrake or use the parking brake, riding it out the first time or two to get over your initial fear.
3. Set up a cone in the middle of the lot.
4. Drive up to it at speed (between 20 and 30 is desired).
5. Pull the hand brake and turn toward the cone. Immediately after you feel the back end come around, turn to the opposite direction. This is known as opposite lock.
6. Repeat the opposite lock at that speed until you can control your car well. Practice this for at least several weeks regularly until it becomes second nature. (Don't do this on roadways. It is dangerous to others and can get you fined.)
7. Slowly increase speed until you are proficient in a speed you are comfortable with. Get to know that speed--you should never drift above that speed unless you are practicing.
8. Upgrade. At the same initial speed, flick the steering wheel opposite of the turn and swing it all the way into toward the CONE (not turn, you aren't ready at this stage). As before, when you feel the rear end come around, go to opposite lock.

Drifting with a Front Wheel Drive Car

1. Approach a turn at a comfortable speed, preferably in mid 2nd gear.
2. Pull the handbrake while turning into the corner, try not to lock the rear wheels.
3. You should still have the power on, try not to go less than 1/2 throttle at any time during the drift.
4. When you feel the car start to understeer, and lose angle, pull the ebrake harder.
5. When the car seems to turn too much, give it progressively more throttle, and release the handbrake some.
6. Don't tense up, just feel it.

[lamborghinione]

Siguro sir, napanood mo yung commercial ng mom na nagdrift ng mz3 right?

Im not so sure since Matic mz3 and its front wheel drive.

But then, found something on the internet.

This might help.

Nice find sir Carlo!

Pwede pala mag-drift kahit front-wheel drive!

Proud nga ako nung nakita ko na M3 yung gamit nung champion race driver na mom. Lumang model nga lang sa kanya.

[carlo_41786]

Nice find sir Carlo!

Pwede pala mag-drift kahit front-wheel drive!

Proud nga ako nung nakita ko na M3 yung gamit nung champion race driver na mom. Lumang model nga lang sa kanya.

Parang sarap nga i-try nun dun sa may susana hts exit.

Lufet nung champion racer noh? Hehe...

[parakitoJDM]

Parang sarap nga i-try nun dun sa may susana hts exit.

Lufet nung champion racer noh? Hehe...

di ko ata napanood 'to. ser saan ba lumabas 'to [YouTube, local TV]?

anong MZ3 gamit nya, local version (1.6 /2.0) stock or tuned version?

or baka MS3 (Speed with 2.3li Disi Turbo)?

[Lucius]

I bet special effects lang un. Didn't even see the lower portion of the car, focused lang dun sa windows-to-roof.

So my theory is special effect lang.

[jrebong0]

*actor21

Huhuhuhu.. help! ung FC ko is still hovering at around 9kms/liter (9.36 to be exact). Odometer reading is at 4,700kms.

As I recall, you were at 5,000kms when your FC was at 9.3kms/liter? And then, it went up to 9.9kms/liter (Odometer is 5,????) and now finally at 10.3kms/liter (Current odo is ?,????)

We are the same in which I go to work very early, and go back home very early/late to avoid the traffic jams. I very rarely get stuck in traffic since I just dont drive when I see one.

*Everyone else

Regarding IDLING STOP

I read that shutting down the engine when you are in situations wherein the car will stop for a few minutes, e.g. waiting for the stop light, can help lessen gas load. A test was made and it said that the test cars saved on the average 13% gas when doing Idling stop.

However, baka nmn masira ung ibang parts ng car? like alternator or starter or fuse or something?

Does anyone know about this?

Minsan kasi mejo matagal ung paghihintay. It goes anywhere from 2-5min depending on the 'mood' of the MMDA personnel doing the traffic so I was thinking might as well shut the engine down.

[actor21]

*jrebong0 13,000+ na odo reading ko...actually ako natatrafic ako sa umaga pero sa gabi hindi na kase mga 10PM up na ako umuuwi..

gusto ko nga sana subukan na 1full tank of 44liters kung kaya ako bigyan ng 500kms ++ na takbo e, (normal drive office to bahay vice versa)..

actually di naman lagi 10+kms per liter lagi minsan 9+kms per liter lang..
basta hanggat di bumababa sa 9kms per liter masya na ako..

[jrebong0]

I achieved my lowest FC yet. I got 11kms/liter this last refill. (Shell regular unleaded. 40liters == 440kms)

Although, I used hypermiling to achieve such numbers.

Makes me wonder what would be my FC If i had driven a car like a yaris using this technique.

And also, this hypermiling is really extreme. Pakiramdam ko sobrang tipid nako, and that is not how I really want to drive. So for the time being, I'm going back to a more normal driving strategy.