2011 KIA Sportage (GEN 3)

[Starex_Gold]

Same specs ng Theta II EX.

Hindi naman ako nagsasawa sa looks ng Tucson ko, wala ako kapareho eh pero sa totoo lang mas pogi talaga Sportage, just not.. the back



At naka-projector na ang Sportage, unless you want a quad set up ;)





Basta yung Sportage R-eVGT EX 2WD, sulit yan. Value for money. Ako na nagsasabi. Nagmukhang....... ang Tucson R-eVGT GL.

[jut703]

Actually after looking at the pics of your Tucson and Sportage, mas gusto ko talaga itsura ng Tucson, inside and out. Medyo aggressive kasi masyado for me yung Sportage. And baliktad tayo, mas gusto ko likod kaysa harap ng Sportage. Kaso yun nga ang daming kapareho.

Di pa HID yung Sportage diba? Di ko lang sure pero diba hindi pwede salpakan lang ng HID yun kasi nakafocus pa rin yung projector for halogen bulbs?

Hmm isip isip tuloy. Just a week ago simple lang eh, GL CRDi lang, ngayon may ganito pala.

[Starex_Gold]

Yes naka halogen pa. IMO it doesn't make a very big difference kung ipapa-retrofit ko pa yan. I won't spend another 20K for the headlights. Sa Tucson ko lang ginawa yun kasi nahihirapan ako sa H4 type headlights.

But with the Sportage, kaya na namin HID on stock projectors. Daming naka ganyan dito lalo na mga Fort at MS, sa width nalang din kasi nagkakatalo yan pag na-compare mo sa Sportage na OEM HID talaga.

Sa totoo lang matutuwa ako kapag Tucson ang pinili mo, you can be a part of our club. Pero mas sulit yung Sportage. Pero, pera mo naman yan boss so nasa sa'yo parin ang decision.

[IMm29]

Hmmm... Tough situation, if i were to put myself into jut703's shoes. Both are very similar in terms of features and function, and both are potent. The Tucson might be more common (unless you get the Premium model, like SG) because it's been out in the market for a while. The Sportage is catching up in terms of vehicles running around in the metro coz Kia now has units.

It's probably now all a matter of taste. IMO, the Sportage is more butch and macho, while the Tucson is more svelte and smooth.

If you were to get the Sportage, surely you can slap on a set of HIDs on those projectors, and you'd get very good lighting. AFAIK, the Sportage's projectors, though intended initially for halogens, produce good output for HIDs. Sure they're no FXR's like SG's (iba na talaga ang maging sukatan ng Tucson), but they should light your way quite well.

I know SG's problem with H4's. Somehow with smaller enclosures (H7, etc.) you can get away with not as much glare using HIDs. But slap that HID bulb on ah H4 enclosure, and more often than not, you will get massive glare even if aimed relatively lower. So, if you do get the Tucson, line up for an HID retrofit. Look into Morimoto H1's, aside from the A3 and FXR's. They're good too.

[jut703]

Salamat sa insights. May oras pa naman pumili, di pa naman urgent yung purchase - from the pictures mas pogi talaga interior ng Tucson, tapos yung exterior, for some reason torn ako. Dati sabi ko mukhang hito yung harap ng Tucson, but with time it grew on me, especially pag naka-projectors. Yung Sportage striking yung itsura, but when the dust settles, it's not really better than the Tucson - it's just a different approach.

Hindi pa ko nakaka-test drive ng Sportage, so there's still the interior fit and finish and the drive that I've got to comment on. Does it drive any differently from the Tucson? Power will obviously be identical (unless malaki yung difference ng pagiging FWD lang), pero yung handling, may difference kaya? OK naman ako sa handling ng Tucson, siyempre not as refined as a sedan, but it's predictable and natatantsa ko naman kung malapit na mag-understeer.

Last thing, about the projectors, hindi naman nakaka-glare kahit derecho HID na yung projectors without sir gary's retrofits 'no? So HID bulbs nalang bibilhin ko? Kung walang glare sa ibang tao and minimal lang yung output difference, ipambibili ko nalang ng ibang bagay yung pampa-retrofit if ever

[Daison77]

Salamat sa insights. May oras pa naman pumili, di pa naman urgent yung purchase - from the pictures mas pogi talaga interior ng Tucson, tapos yung exterior, for some reason torn ako. Dati sabi ko mukhang hito yung harap ng Tucson, but with time it grew on me, especially pag naka-projectors. Yung Sportage striking yung itsura, but when the dust settles, it's not really better than the Tucson - it's just a different approach.

Hindi pa ko nakaka-test drive ng Sportage, so there's still the interior fit and finish and the drive that I've got to comment on. Does it drive any differently from the Tucson? Power will obviously be identical (unless malaki yung difference ng pagiging FWD lang), pero yung handling, may difference kaya? OK naman ako sa handling ng Tucson, siyempre not as refined as a sedan, but it's predictable and natatantsa ko naman kung malapit na mag-understeer.

Last thing, about the projectors, hindi naman nakaka-glare kahit derecho HID na yung projectors without sir gary's retrofits 'no? So HID bulbs nalang bibilhin ko? Kung walang glare sa ibang tao and minimal lang yung output difference, ipambibili ko nalang ng ibang bagay yung pampa-retrofit if ever

Tough choice sir ! Sa features talaga lamang ang sportage kaya mas sulit ang pera mo. Pero kahit ano piliin mo you wont go wrong, win win situation yan. sa dust naman, kung matyaga ka maglinis o mag pa carwash wala ka.naman prob, lahat naman ng kotse nadudumihan at pag madumi pumapangit tignan hehehe. its just a matter of how long will u let your car remain dirty. Pero tsaka mo na isipan yan hehehe.
Good.luck sa.pag pili sir.

[renzo_d10]

Hindi ata FXR yung kay SG, MH1 yata yun.

*jut : Ako I've made a decision na talaga if ever palarin ako at may bumagsak na pera out of nowhere, for 2WD I'll go with the Sportage. Kung Premium, well.. dun ako mahihirapan. The Tucson Premium from a stand still looks very good, same goes with the Sportage so mahirap talaga kung premium.

I like the Tucson, a relative has one (GLS non-premium Theta II) tapos ilang beses na rin ako umuupo sa showroom units when I was still checking out the Accent. Maganda siya, but after seeing the Sportage... damn. Nag-iba eh. At first the Sportage didn't look good, but after quite some time it grew on me.

Ang laban mo nalang naman dito jut is looks-wise eh, diba? Personally Sportage ako... in white or orange please. :classic:

[jovill]

Hahaha. Putragis pare, malaki na depreciation nung Sportage eh. Sayang lang.

Pero sa totoo lang, nagisisi kapatid ko.

Yung CR-V pwede ko dispatsahin kapalit nyan :naughty2: pero itim kukunin ko, yun paborito kong kulay ng Sportage. Ha-ha!

Sir. would you care to explain bakit nagsisisi yung kapatid mo sa sportage?! Still undecided up to now kung ano ang kukunin ko e. TIA

[renzo_d10]

Ang alam ko nagsisisi siya kasi hindi nalang siya nag-intay para ReVGT din ang kuhain niya.

[Starex_Gold]

Salamat sa insights. May oras pa naman pumili, di pa naman urgent yung purchase - from the pictures mas pogi talaga interior ng Tucson, tapos yung exterior, for some reason torn ako. Dati sabi ko mukhang hito yung harap ng Tucson, but with time it grew on me, especially pag naka-projectors. Yung Sportage striking yung itsura, but when the dust settles, it's not really better than the Tucson - it's just a different approach.

Hindi pa ko nakaka-test drive ng Sportage, so there's still the interior fit and finish and the drive that I've got to comment on. Does it drive any differently from the Tucson? Power will obviously be identical (unless malaki yung difference ng pagiging FWD lang), pero yung handling, may difference kaya? OK naman ako sa handling ng Tucson, siyempre not as refined as a sedan, but it's predictable and natatantsa ko naman kung malapit na mag-understeer.

Last thing, about the projectors, hindi naman nakaka-glare kahit derecho HID na yung projectors without sir gary's retrofits 'no? So HID bulbs nalang bibilhin ko? Kung walang glare sa ibang tao and minimal lang yung output difference, ipambibili ko nalang ng ibang bagay yung pampa-retrofit if ever

Kung Tucson 2WD at Sportage 2WD, parehong pareho driving dynamics nila.

Pero syempre the R-eVGT would be more lethal.

Sir. would you care to explain bakit nagsisisi yung kapatid mo sa sportage?! Still undecided up to now kung ano ang kukunin ko e. TIA

Kasi sana inintay nalang yung R-eVGT. I know 7.5km/L on a 2 liter CUV isn't bad. Pero hindi pa satisfied ang kapatid ko.

Magagalit nga daw siya pag kumuha ako ng white Sportage R-eVGT 2WD :hysterical: first choice color niya tapos CRDi pa. Ha-ha!

[jut703]

Ang laban mo nalang naman dito jut is looks-wise eh, diba? Personally Sportage ako... in white or orange please. :classic:

Right now looks kasi hindi ko pa naddrive yung Sportage. Tucson CRDi palang, pero 4x4 kasi yun, though I doubt the drivetrain makes a big difference in road-handling.

Exterior yung tabla pero interior Tucson talaga eh. If ever, white naman yung kukunin (huhu another white car to maintain). Pag Tucson, ibblack out ko pa yung grille, tapos projector, tapos maghahanap ako ng matte na foglight housing (makintab kasi yung black na housing na nakikita ko sa mga nakawhite na Tucson), at kung anu ano pa. Pag Sportage parang wala naman ata akong gustong baguhin.

*SG: Kung Tucson 4x4 R-eVGT vs Sportage 4x2 R-eVGT, ano mas maganda handling? Does the lighter weight of the 2WD Sportage make it more fun in the corners, or mas stable ba yung Tucson kasi may 4x4?

[Starex_Gold]

Mas maganda traction ng Tucson 4WD. AFAIK there's a difference between 4X4 and 4WD.

Tucson is only 4WD. Torque on Demand lang yan. Tulad ng sabi ni ratchet, pag nakaramdam ng slip yan tsaka lang gagana yung 4WD.

Sa corners pag sinubukan ko yung Sportage namin at yung Tucson ko, lamang parin Tucson ko kasi 4WD at may VDC. Kahit alisan mo ng 4WD yan basta may VDC, okay sa corner yan.

[fleas2016]

mga sirs solicit lang ako ng advice: what tint would you recommend for a mineral silver sportage? i'm thinking of getting un 3M magic tints, but i'm not sure if it will look good

[Starex_Gold]

mga sirs solicit lang ako ng advice: what tint would you recommend for a mineral silver sportage? i'm thinking of getting un 3M magic tints, but i'm not sure if it will look good

Pwede V-Kool OEM series or V-Kool Signature series. Ranges from P5.8K to 7.5K

V-Kool OEM series grey shade sa loob. Tapos black sa labas. Yung Signature series naman bronze shade sa loob. Tapos glossy black sa labas.

[fleas2016]

thanks sir SG. kaso 3M lang raw meron sa winterpine what's the recommended tint shop in QC which has v-kool?

[Starex_Gold]

thanks sir SG. kaso 3M lang raw meron sa winterpine what's the recommended tint shop in QC which has v-kool?

Ito sir mga shop na may V-Kool



Yung main office kapitbahay ko lang dito sa Paco. Hehehe. Might visit them to ask kung pwede 3 months to pay ang tint.

[sachiel]

I would choose the Sportage R-VGT. Sobrang sulit kasi yun price for the engine and unique pa since there are very few Sportage owners right now. Kung yun Grand Starex na VGT masarap i-drive, what more if SUV pa.

[jut703]

Sa corners pag sinubukan ko yung Sportage namin at yung Tucson ko, lamang parin Tucson ko kasi 4WD at may VDC. Kahit alisan mo ng 4WD yan basta may VDC, okay sa corner yan.

Sayang walang traction control yung GL R-eVGT

[Walter]

Tough choice sir ! Sa features talaga lamang ang sportage kaya mas sulit ang pera mo. Pero kahit ano piliin mo you wont go wrong, win win situation yan. sa dust naman, kung matyaga ka maglinis o mag pa carwash wala ka.naman prob, lahat naman ng kotse nadudumihan at pag madumi pumapangit tignan hehehe. its just a matter of how long will u let your car remain dirty. Pero tsaka mo na isipan yan hehehe.
Good.luck sa.pag pili sir.

Um, that's not what he meant by his statement regarding dust settles.

[jut703]

^
HAHAHA dun pala galing yung reply na yun :hysterical:

Upon further reading, mukhang wala naman palang weight advantage ang 2WD Sportage sa 4WD Tucson. The Tucson GL R-eVGT weighs 1,611 kg, while the Sportage 2WD EX Theta II weighs 1492 kg. Nasa 90 kg ang difference ng 4WD, so lalabas na halos pantay lang weight nila.

Sa FC, hindi ko lang alam kung gaano mas matipid yung 2WD Sportage sa 4WD Tucson, kung nasa 1 km/L, medyo malaki na rin yun.

Feature wise, the Tucson doesn't have a leather steering wheel, heated side mirrors, leather door trim and illuminated visors. All minor stuff I can live without.

Aside from the price difference and the looks (subjective kasi), ano pa advantage ng Sportage? Coin flip nalang