Isuzu Dmax Owners [continued]

[jisan948]

[QUOTE=zerobox;2626231]Good day sa inyo. Matanong lang magkakaprob kaya dmax oag kinargahan ng euro 4 diesel? Totoo ba na mandatory na euro 4 sa january 1 2016..[/QUOTE

Good question.

[zerobox]

Choices ko kc ranger, np300, tapos ngayon dmax kasi durable engine, kaya lang nagdadalawang isip ako papano na kaya pag mandatory na euro4..

[LancerA174A]

Maybe it would be best if you wait until the second half of 2016. Siguro by that time service centers and gas stations are well aware of the Euro IV diesels already. Sa ngayon kasi wala ma recommend or di nila alam kung may epekto ba ang Euro IV diesel sa Euro II engines.

But in our experience more than a year na nagkakarga ng Euro IV diesel sa 4JK1 VGS wala naman problema.

[zerobox]

Ewan ko kung mahintay ko pa 2016.. haha.. e balita nga yung mivec engine na ilalagay sa strada pag mandatory na euro 4.. astig pa naman xseries..

[MD888]

Showing an imported dmax performance chart to us is cheating.

The local dmax has 2.5 136ps engines. Other countries got 163ps 2.5 and 177 3.0 engines.

Another proof na bagsakan ng isuzu outdated engines ang pinas. We are also victim of another isuzu, 4ja1 engine. Victimized by isuzu as 2015 model, paglabas mo... Victimized again by anti smoke belching group.

I agree with you that showing figures abroad is unfair because they have different specifications there. But look, there is no point in you keeping at this since you will not win. Sorry, not a chance. It is multiple people against one, and the mere fact that you fail to see it in a different perspective already shows you passively conceding to your defeat in this pointless argument. Unless you are just here to troll, then it was all our mistake to be bothered by your thread bashing.

For one, you already went out of the boundaries of this topic since we are talking about the current generation D-Max, not the Crosswind or any older model. Second, I already stressed in my previous post that Isuzu prioritises durability in their engines. That is why they take a longer amount of time to bring in the newer technology here. They want to make sure that the fuel quality we have will not cause any problems. Their very long lasting reputation would be tainted if a widespread engine problem would be experienced. Since you already mentioned it anyway, I would rather have a Crosswind that has a bulletproof engine than a car with the newest technology but unproven reliability. There is good reason why it is one of the choices for a UV Express Vehicle Service (even if their drivers are the biggest douchebags in the Metro, but that is already another matter altogether). It is a testament to the reliability and fuel efficiency of the vehicle. In the case of smoke belching, I am in no proper position to comment on that since I have never owned a Crosswind, but neither have I experienced seeing one that belches. Heck, the belching I see are all from the Mitsubishi 4D56 and Toyota 2KD-FTV engines. I believe proper care and maintenance is all one would need to prevent this.

But really, this matter is quite subjective. If you are the kind of person who wants the newest tech at the cost of possible problems that might arise, by all means, go ahead. I prefer sticking to the established choice that would not give me headaches and problems. To each his own.

[rna800]

*zerobox: More than 2 yrs na ata na euro IV ng Unioil ang ginagamit ko sa 3.0 4JJ1 Dmax ko, wala pa namang problema. 08 model un, Iteq engine. Ung D4D van ko din, pagka kuha ko last yr, euro IV till this day, wala pa naman problema. Ewan ko pero hindi yan dapat problemahin at kailangan pang antayin ang 2016.

Diyan sa troll, bahala na kayong pumatol diyan, suyang suya na ako sa mga ganyang tao. Before ako bumili ng Dmax back in 08, ganyan ang sinasabi, hanggang ngayon ganyan padin. Basta ako masaya ako sa choice ko.

[rna800]

Double post.

[JCPR20]

*zerobox: More than 2 yrs na ata na euro IV ng Unioil ang ginagamit ko sa 3.0 4JJ1 Dmax ko, wala pa namang problema. 08 model un, Iteq engine. Ung D4D van ko din, pagka kuha ko last yr, euro IV till this day, wala pa naman problema. Ewan ko pero hindi yan dapat problemahin at kailangan pang antayin ang 2016.

Diyan sa troll, bahala na kayong pumatol diyan, suyang suya na ako sa mga ganyang tao. Before ako bumili ng Dmax back in 08, ganyan ang sinasabi, hanggang ngayon ganyan padin. Basta ako masaya ako sa choice ko.

Ako din, masaya din ako sa aking d-max.

[Luap]

*zerobox: More than 2 yrs na ata na euro IV ng Unioil ang ginagamit ko sa 3.0 4JJ1 Dmax ko, wala pa namang problema. 08 model un, Iteq engine. Ung D4D van ko din, pagka kuha ko last yr, euro IV till this day, wala pa naman problema. Ewan ko pero hindi yan dapat problemahin at kailangan pang antayin ang 2016.

Diyan sa troll, bahala na kayong pumatol diyan, suyang suya na ako sa mga ganyang tao. Before ako bumili ng Dmax back in 08, ganyan ang sinasabi, hanggang ngayon ganyan padin. Basta ako masaya ako sa choice ko.

Fortuner pala ang sasakyan ni Dmax Troll ayun sobrang nagsisi at di daw nya akalain na matagtag. Naalog siguro utak nya kaya sya ganyan.

http://tsikot.com/forums/showpost.php?p=2626616

[kevinworld]

Fortuner has its own weakness, pero walang salesman sa forum nila. They dont bash anyone who talk about its weakness. Dito, dami mga salesman ng isuzu. They cannot take criticisms.

Sharing is the main goal here. There are happy customers, and picky customers. If we have the opportunity to choose, why not? All we need is a comfortable ride that will last 10 yrs without headaches.

[kevinworld]

Walang masama owning several vehicles. I personally own a first gen dmax. Bulletproof daw according to the salesman. And proven isuzu durability.

Sa totoo lang. Wala pang 6 years, leaking na sa fuel tank. And isuzu casa service fee is twice that of the Mitsubishi and Toyota. Kahit change oil lang. Suspension parts deformed after 3 yrs. We removed the leaf spring and examined.

[MD888]

Walang masama owning several vehicles. I personally own a first gen dmax. Bulletproof daw according to the salesman. And proven isuzu durability.

Sa totoo lang. Wala pang 6 years, leaking na sa fuel tank. And isuzu casa service fee is twice that of the Mitsubishi and Toyota. Kahit change oil lang. Suspension parts deformed after 3 yrs. We removed the leaf spring and examined.

Sorry if I did end up sounding like a salesman. I would gladly take criticism that has valid points, but your claims against Isuzu do not warrant enough consideration. But mind you, I am a medical doctor. If that is not obvious enough from my username...

What year model was your D-Max? Well, I have personally have no idea what your truck goes through, but I have several neighbours who also own Isuzu vehicles which are more than ten years old. One of the trucks is already 20 years old or more. They say the only times it goes to the casa is for regular maintenance, change oil, filters, etc. Several parts of any vehicle will need replacement after a certain amount of time, so I see no point in your argument there. It is part of the ownership experience. You are the first case I have heard of that actually complains about such problems. You will have much more problems in other brands, and I am sure you already know that.

Perhaps the question now is do you actually take good care of your vehicles? This includes both regular maintenance AND actually being careful when on the road. Or do you think it can conquer any road bumps and simply wait for problems to appear before deciding to have it brought to the casa (aside from regular maintenance, of course)? That leaking tank might have been caused by a bad bump that was left as is and assumed as fine. Not even the most reliable of cars will last if it is not cared for properly, as with anything.

[metal_rosie1973]

Top choice ko parin isuzu when it comes to diesel engines if i bash isuzu im not bashing them in general my only complain is they are not competitive enough here in the philippines parang ginawa lang nila tayo ng tambakan ng basura nila. Hindi na ako mag tataka kung 2.5 VGS pa rin gamitin nila for the next 10 years kung mag switch na sa EURO 4 kasi dami pa rin uto uto na PINOY and bibili sa pinaglumaan na ng ISUZU. Sa Thailand usap usapan na palitan na ang 3.0 VGS ng 2.5 twin turbo rated 163 HP 400NM of torque. Cguro kung e release man ng ISUZU philippines malamang ung 3.0 VGS dadalhin d2 at hindi ang bagong labas na 2.5 twin turbo. Dami na nanaman ma uuto na pinoy. I know we have dirty fuel here in the philippines pero hindi yan rason na hindi nila magagawan ng paraan para dalhin yan diba number 1 ang isuzu when it comes to diesel? bakit hindi nila gawan ng paraan kahit sa top of the line d-max at top of the line MU-x nalang nila ikabit ung 3.0 VGS or the upcoming 2.5 twin turbo. Alam ko na sagot dami pa rin kasi satin ang uto uto mga isuzu FANB0Y's ika nga. Alam ko naman reliable ang isuzu alam ko naman yan na at very fuel efficient pa. Bakit hindi ba reliable and 3.0 VGS engine? hindi ba fuel efficient ang 3.0 VGS engine? Daming palusot ng Isuzu Philippines. Tayo nalang ata ang nag tyaga sa mga Basura ng ISUZU PILIPINAS ang malaysia naka 3.0 VGS na pati ang Indonesia naka 3.0 VGS na mga DMAX dun. Ano ba tayo tambakan ng basura?? Buying an isuzu product here in the phil is like buying and Iphone 6s with a specs of Iphone5. Im not an isuzu hater im jst stating facts.

[Luap]

Top choice ko parin isuzu when it comes to diesel engines if i bash isuzu im not bashing them in general my only complain is they are not competitive enough here in the philippines parang ginawa lang nila tayo ng tambakan ng basura nila. Hindi na ako mag tataka kung 2.5 VGS pa rin gamitin nila for the next 10 years kung mag switch na sa EURO 4 kasi dami pa rin uto uto na PINOY and bibili sa pinaglumaan na ng ISUZU. Sa Thailand usap usapan na palitan na ang 3.0 VGS ng 2.5 twin turbo rated 163 HP 400NM of torque. Cguro kung e release man ng ISUZU philippines malamang ung 3.0 VGS dadalhin d2 at hindi ang bagong labas na 2.5 twin turbo. Dami na nanaman ma uuto na pinoy. I know we have dirty fuel here in the philippines pero hindi yan rason na hindi nila magagawan ng paraan para dalhin yan diba number 1 ang isuzu when it comes to diesel? bakit hindi nila gawan ng paraan kahit sa top of the line d-max at top of the line MU-x nalang nila ikabit ung 3.0 VGS or the upcoming 2.5 twin turbo. Alam ko na sagot dami pa rin kasi satin ang uto uto mga isuzu FANB0Y's ika nga. Alam ko naman reliable ang isuzu alam ko naman yan na at very fuel efficient pa. Bakit hindi ba reliable and 3.0 VGS engine? hindi ba fuel efficient ang 3.0 VGS engine? Daming palusot ng Isuzu Philippines. Tayo nalang ata ang nag tyaga sa mga Basura ng ISUZU PILIPINAS ang malaysia naka 3.0 VGS na pati ang Indonesia naka 3.0 VGS na mga DMAX dun. Ano ba tayo tambakan ng basura?? Buying an isuzu product here in the phil is like buying and Iphone 6s with a specs of Iphone5. Im not an isuzu hater im jst stating facts.

We know all the facts and we weigh all the pros and cons, at the end of the day, we bought the vehicle with our own money which we deemed adequate fir our needs and intended use. But for you to say that maraming uto uto ang bumibili ng isuzu, medyo matabil dila mo brod. Bakla ka ba? Bakit di mo pa tumbukin gusto mong sabihin me mga pa top choice top choice ka pa.

[MD888]

Top choice ko parin isuzu when it comes to diesel engines if i bash isuzu im not bashing them in general my only complain is they are not competitive enough here in the philippines parang ginawa lang nila tayo ng tambakan ng basura nila. Hindi na ako mag tataka kung 2.5 VGS pa rin gamitin nila for the next 10 years kung mag switch na sa EURO 4 kasi dami pa rin uto uto na PINOY and bibili sa pinaglumaan na ng ISUZU. Sa Thailand usap usapan na palitan na ang 3.0 VGS ng 2.5 twin turbo rated 163 HP 400NM of torque. Cguro kung e release man ng ISUZU philippines malamang ung 3.0 VGS dadalhin d2 at hindi ang bagong labas na 2.5 twin turbo. Dami na nanaman ma uuto na pinoy. I know we have dirty fuel here in the philippines pero hindi yan rason na hindi nila magagawan ng paraan para dalhin yan diba number 1 ang isuzu when it comes to diesel? bakit hindi nila gawan ng paraan kahit sa top of the line d-max at top of the line MU-x nalang nila ikabit ung 3.0 VGS or the upcoming 2.5 twin turbo. Alam ko na sagot dami pa rin kasi satin ang uto uto mga isuzu FANB0Y's ika nga. Alam ko naman reliable ang isuzu alam ko naman yan na at very fuel efficient pa. Bakit hindi ba reliable and 3.0 VGS engine? hindi ba fuel efficient ang 3.0 VGS engine? Daming palusot ng Isuzu Philippines. Tayo nalang ata ang nag tyaga sa mga Basura ng ISUZU PILIPINAS ang malaysia naka 3.0 VGS na pati ang Indonesia naka 3.0 VGS na mga DMAX dun. Ano ba tayo tambakan ng basura?? Buying an isuzu product here in the phil is like buying and Iphone 6s with a specs of Iphone5. Im not an isuzu hater im jst stating facts.

Look, it is as simple as this. Isuzu caters to the needs of a select audience. They do not aim to please everyone. This is how some businesses go. If you do not like their offerings, simply do not buy their products and just look elsewhere. You are only causing stress to yourself with all your ranting. Heck, if you dare even bash Isuzu Philippines this much, why not try to import one from abroad to get the specs you want and end your misery? Buy gray market and stop complaining. It will be good for your own sake. Those who buy from Isuzu are those who are content and think it is best for their needs.

Here we go again with the power figures. Look, the figures generated by the older engines are already ample by Philippine standards, so there is no reason to get those high output ones. We are already reported to have the worst traffic in the world, and you still desire for more power? What in the world is going over there in your mind? Now you may say that it is better to have it than not. But really, that does not fully justify the lack of it in the Philippine market.

[Luap]

Walang masama owning several vehicles. I personally own a first gen dmax. Bulletproof daw according to the salesman. And proven isuzu durability.

Sa totoo lang. Wala pang 6 years, leaking na sa fuel tank. And isuzu casa service fee is twice that of the Mitsubishi and Toyota. Kahit change oil lang. Suspension parts deformed after 3 yrs. We removed the leaf spring and examined.

Payo ko sayo brod, mag tricycle ka na lang. Mukhang wala kang swerte sa sasakyan. First lemon dmax nakuha mo. 2nd matagtag na fortuner na pinagsisisihan mo. Since mahilig ka sa basura, bili ka kaya ng garbage truck, baka sakaling swertehin ka na dun.[emoji3]

[metal_rosie1973]

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Consider yourself warned. If you can't argue properly without bulldozing other people's opinions, leave this forum.

[Luap]

*Luap ang 0gag na tangga! personal opinion ko lang un why can't you take negative criticism? may pa malaking kargada ka pa nalalaman kung mahilig ba maliking makina ibig sabihin maliit ang kargada? ikaw cgur0 ang maliit ang kargada kasi mahilig ka sa maliit na makina 2.5 VGS pwe! I'm referring to the top of the line model 0gag other brands bring their top of the line engines for their high end models. Isuzu nalang basura sinasalpak sa top of the line model nila ng dahil sa mga 0gag na kagaya mo na bumibili pa rin sa kanilang producto. Kung sa bagay you cant afford the top of the line 3.0 VGS model kaya defend mo pa rin yang 2.5 VGS model mo 0gag! Sa lahat ng brand sila lang hindi competitive! Hindi mo ba nakakikita kung an0 ginagawa ng isuzu? tinambakan tau nila ng basura dahil may bumibili pa rin na 0gag kagaya m0! ang tangga mo kc! Pag bumili ng 3.0 VGS ipangkarera kaagad? i want is isuzu 2 be fair kung nilabas nila sa malaysia at indonesia ung 3.0 VGS bakit hndi ilabas nila d2 sa pinas? Kung sa bagay nandyan si LUAP na tangga na bumibili pa rin. Kahit 4jb1 2.8 turbo isalpak sa DMAX bibili pa rin yan 0gag eh!

Sige lang sister. Makakatulong sayo yan. Ilabas mo lang sama loob mo. Pm mo na lang sakin number mo, tutal matapang ka namang bruha ka, puntahan kita kahit saan mo gusto. Dalhin ko sayo top of the line ko na trycicle na naka vgs. Sya, magpalit ka muna ng napkin at medyo malakas ata regla mo ngayon. [emoji3]

[MD888]

*Luap ang 0gag na tangga! personal opinion ko lang un why can't you take negative criticism? may pa malaking kargada ka pa nalalaman kung mahilig ba maliking makina ibig sabihin maliit ang kargada? ikaw cgur0 ang maliit ang kargada kasi mahilig ka sa maliit na makina 2.5 VGS pwe! I'm referring to the top of the line model 0gag other brands bring their top of the line engines for their high end models. Isuzu nalang basura sinasalpak sa top of the line model nila ng dahil sa mga 0gag na kagaya mo na bumibili pa rin sa kanilang producto. Kung sa bagay you cant afford the top of the line 3.0 VGS model kaya defend mo pa rin yang 2.5 VGS model mo 0gag! Sa lahat ng brand sila lang hindi competitive! Hindi mo ba nakakikita kung an0 ginagawa ng isuzu? tinambakan tau nila ng basura dahil may bumibili pa rin na 0gag kagaya m0! ang tangga mo kc! Pag bumili ng 3.0 VGS ipangkarera kaagad? i want is isuzu 2 be fair kung nilabas nila sa malaysia at indonesia ung 3.0 VGS bakit hndi ilabas nila d2 sa pinas? Kung sa bagay nandyan si LUAP na tangga na bumibili pa rin. Kahit 4jb1 2.8 turbo isalpak sa DMAX bibili pa rin yan 0gag eh!

You are ruining BOTH the D-Max and MU-X threads. I ask you now, please stop it with your nonsense already! You had all the chances in the world to state your problem in a civilised manner, but you utterly failed to do so and even resorted to ad hominem. What would you expect from the reactions of the other people in the forum? Obviously, unpleasant responses as well. If you want to be respected, do the same unto others. If I were a forum moderator, you and all your other possible accounts would have been banned long ago.

[Luap]

You are ruining BOTH the D-Max and MU-X threads. I ask you now, please stop it with your nonsense already! You had all the chances in the world to state your problem in a civilised manner, but you utterly failed to do so and even resorted to ad hominem. What would you expect from the reactions of the other people in the forum? Obviously, unpleasant responses as well. If you want to be respected, do the same unto others. If I were a forum moderator, you and all your other possible accounts would have been banned long ago.

I decided to slightly resort to his bashing style in the hopes that he will eventually expose his true nature. Lo and behold. Since i achieved my goal, i will stop responding to his posts as there is no point in arguing with this isuzu troll.