Isuzu Dmax Owners [continued]

[nelany]

Only owners of dmax know what they are. Sa topgear, these people were only paid to do good write-ups for cars that advertise in their magazines. Cguro, the isuzu dmax ride will settle down if you are someone selling drinking water by gallons. Or maybe delivery of piglets from farm to the market. This is the slow and low end torque application of isuzu pickups.

Ano kaya problema ng tao na ito sa dmax?

[kevinworld]

Ano kaya problema ng tao na ito sa dmax?

It's not a problem. It's a reality. A critique for isuzu to wake up and shape up against competition. We maybe a third world country pero Hindi tayo bagsakan ng basura nila

[Luap]

It's not a problem. It's a reality. A critique for isuzu to wake up and shape up against competition. We maybe a third world country pero Hindi tayo bagsakan ng basura nila

What garbage are you referring to? No one is forcing you to acquire an isuzu. If you dont like a particular brand, there are are others that you can choose from. Why spend all your energy in bashing Isuzu? Do you think they will give a crap on what you are posting here?

[LancerA174A]

Confirmed! D-Max minorchange will be announced on the 2nd of November. There's a good chance na ilabas daw yung 2.0 Ddi-VGS na equal yung output sa 2.5 VGS. Siguro i llaunch na din yung bi-turbo sa Thai/Australia. Hoping for a major interior overhaul plus new MID, sa exterior kahit di masyado. Mag wind tunnel testing pa sila for aerodynamics.

Anyway, guys wag niyo na lang pagtalunan. We all have our own choices, wag lang sana manira.

[nelany]

It's not a problem. It's a reality. A critique for isuzu to wake up and shape up against competition. We maybe a third world country pero Hindi tayo bagsakan ng basura nila

Ok, pero this is a free country and we have a choice what to buy with our own money (Note I don't own a Dmax). Definitely those buyer of Dmax will compare everything before buying it. If they bought the Dmax that means that it suit their needs. Have you ever been to Thailand to see how they use their Dmax? Dito lang sa atin na ang pick up ay mostly used para sa porma sa society maski ano pang dami ng problema niya masabi lang na nakasunod sila sa uso at moderno yung rig niya.

[MD888]

It's not a problem. It's a reality. A critique for isuzu to wake up and shape up against competition. We maybe a third world country pero Hindi tayo bagsakan ng basura nila

Look, I understand that you want continuous innovation and improvement of products in the motoring industry. But before you call their offerings in the Philippines as "basura", why not see things from another perspective and analyse the whole picture from there? Your posts so far clearly show how poorly you fare in that aspect. So I suggest you think things out more before you post another reply to any one of us who are addressing you.

Each carmaker follows certain philosophies in their business. In the case of Isuzu, it is about maximising durability and reliability. They want to cater to those who want to own a reliable and rugged vehicle for a considerable amount of years. Power is lower down in their priorities because pickups were never meant to be speed demons anyway. You want something fast and powerful? Get a sports car! Besides, what will you do with all that power in the horrid Philippine traffic anyway? Isuzu diesel engines have decent power and are very fuel efficient. Mind you, on paper alone, it has more power and torque than the D-4D non-VNT engine of Toyota. Plus if you have been doing more research online, people have claimed that Isuzu might even be citing output figures lower than the actual. It feels more powerful than the figures suggest, and I can tell you that it is ample. Yes, it can also climb Baguio with no problems at all. I should know, I did that without stepping hard on the pedal the whole time.

As for the ride, our current generation D-Max's suspension is even less bouncy than the Fortuner we have, which is the latest update before the brand new one arrives. Fuel economy is superior too. We go to the province at times and back in the same day. The D-Max is a 3.0 4JJ1 and it only uses up 1/4 of the tank to and from. Compare that to the 2.5 VNT Fortuner, which uses up half of its tank. Do consider the bigger engine that is more fuel efficient.

Oh, shall we talk about durability? Sure then, but I shall end up bashing another make here, so apologies in advance. If you do more research online, plus actually tried to consider what the others have said here so far, the Isuzu engine is even more durable than the D-4D of Toyota. Not only that, it is less sensitive to fuel. It can handle Euro-2 and Euro-4 quite well. If you consistently use Euro-2 on your D-4D, you will run the risk of choking your engine, or end up belching like there's no tomorrow. I know that Toyota have a new line of GD series engines for their new Hilux and Fortuner, but its reliability has yet to be proven and is too early to tell. But Toyota is still great, no denying that. What I am very critical about the Ranger. Have you heard all of the horror stories? Turbos blowing and breaking down here and there even before they even reach 100,000 km? Well, that shows another thing that Isuzu thought about before adding VGS to their engines. They wanted to make sure that their engines will last. I see it as more senseless and foolish to get a more powerful pickup that will end up needing a turbo replacement 2-3 times before the warranty even expires.

P.S. If you are the kind of person who also cares about resale value, Isuzu should own Ford in this one too. This is how reliability can affect things too.

[JCPR20]

You have a better pickup truck i guess...i have a 2009 d-max. most of the time i have 500 kilos load and i always tailgate any pickup truck that overtakes me. hindi pa naman ako napahiya sa d-max:D

[LancerA174A]

See how the ageing, 'outdated' 5 speed A/T ' underpowered' D-Max perform against the newer competition.

[kevinworld]

See how the ageing, 'outdated' 5 speed A/T ' underpowered' D-Max perform against the newer competition.

Showing an imported dmax performance chart to us is cheating.

The local dmax has 2.5 136ps engines. Other countries got 163ps 2.5 and 177 3.0 engines.

Another proof na bagsakan ng isuzu outdated engines ang pinas. We are also victim of another isuzu, 4ja1 engine. Victimized by isuzu as 2015 model, paglabas mo... Victimized again by anti smoke belching group.

[StockEngine]

Confirmed! D-Max minorchange will be announced on the 2nd of November. There's a good chance na ilabas daw yung 2.0 Ddi-VGS na equal yung output sa 2.5 VGS. Siguro i llaunch na din yung bi-turbo sa Thai/Australia. Hoping for a major interior overhaul plus new MID, sa exterior kahit di masyado. Mag wind tunnel testing pa sila for aerodynamics.

Anyway, guys wag niyo na lang pagtalunan. We all have our own choices, wag lang sana manira.

wow good info. i was looking for more info on the newer(unreleased) Dmax.

*kevinworld get out of the thread.

[Erika Cacayuan]

Only owners of dmax know what they are. Sa topgear, these people were only paid to do good write-ups for cars that advertise in their magazines. Cguro, the isuzu dmax ride will settle down if you are someone selling drinking water by gallons. Or maybe delivery of piglets from farm to the market. This is the slow and low end torque application of isuzu pickups.

Nah.. again.. as always puro basura lumalabas sa bibig mo. Autoindustria has a review of the D-Max and it was almost the same as Top Gear... And who cares about your opinion.. you're just a nobody. Who can't even tell what ride he uses.. or do you even ride at all. Can't argue with person na Sarado ang Utak.

[LancerA174A]

Showing an imported dmax performance chart to us is cheating.

The local dmax has 2.5 136ps engines. Other countries got 163ps 2.5 and 177 3.0 engines.

Another proof na bagsakan ng isuzu outdated engines ang pinas. We are also victim of another isuzu, 4ja1 engine. Victimized by isuzu as 2015 model, paglabas mo... Victimized again by anti smoke belching group.

Still the D-Max performs better, if not equal to its much 'newer' and 'modern' competitors with its gen 3.5 tried and tested 4JJ1, which contradicts your claim na inferior talaga ang D-Max. Please do everyone a favor and go to your favorite truck's thread instead.

Oh and btw, our 4JA1 may be visually smoking, but it passes emission tests year after year.

[Erika Cacayuan]

See how the ageing, 'outdated' 5 speed A/T ' underpowered' D-Max perform against the newer competition.

Jeezz.. 182 Top Speed against.. what's the Big Deal?.. 188?.. Eh mag kano ba ang 3.0 LS ng D-Max.. Compare sa iba na High-End.. and considering the reliability ONLY the D-MAx has a Rated B10 500000kms na Engine also the most economical.... 'Nuff Said...

Who drives a pickup at 180kms anyways.. Gusto mo yatang tumalon sa Skyway.. IRRELEVANT.
Underpowered.. ibig sabihin yung mga owners ng Ranger 2.2 Outdated din ang Engine nila since mas mabagal ang performance nila sa D-Max 3.0???

[LancerA174A]

Jeezz.. 182 Top Speed against.. what's the Big Deal?.. 188?.. Eh mag kano ba ang 3.0 LS ng D-Max.. Compare sa iba na High-End.. and considering the reliability ONLY the D-MAx has a Rated B10 500000kms na Engine also the most economical.... 'Nuff Said...

Who drives a pickup at 180kms anyways.. Gusto mo yatang tumalon sa Skyway.. IRRELEVANT.
Underpowered.. ibig sabihin yung mga owners ng Ranger 2.2 Outdated din ang Engine nila since mas mabagal ang performance nila sa D-Max 3.0???

You prolly didn't understand my post. Sigh.

[Luap]

Showing an imported dmax performance chart to us is cheating.

The local dmax has 2.5 136ps engines. Other countries got 163ps 2.5 and 177 3.0 engines.

Another proof na bagsakan ng isuzu outdated engines ang pinas. We are also victim of another isuzu, 4ja1 engine. Victimized by isuzu as 2015 model, paglabas mo... Victimized again by anti smoke belching group.

Dude, do yourself a favor. Stop crying like you were sodomized by Isuzu. One poster asked what is the better pick up you own and to this day, you have not responded to such query. Do you even own one?

[Erika Cacayuan]

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[Erika Cacayuan]

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[Erika Cacayuan]

You prolly didn't understand my post. Sigh.

Sorry kala ko kalaban.. :D

[Erika Cacayuan]

Showing an imported dmax performance chart to us is cheating.

The local dmax has 2.5 136ps engines. Other countries got 163ps 2.5 and 177 3.0 engines.

Another proof na bagsakan ng isuzu outdated engines ang pinas. We are also victim of another isuzu, 4ja1 engine. Victimized by isuzu as 2015 model, paglabas mo... Victimized again by anti smoke belching group.

To be fair.. mas mahal naman ang mga bagong labas ngayon na ibang brands.. Mga ka-price ng D-Max at par pa rin naman ang performance.

And what Smoke Belching are you talking about. Again..you're talking nonsense and saying things that are NOT THERE and just coming out in your own little world. Isuzu Engine has cleanest emission compare to it's rivals. Why bash here not doing your homework?? It's so stupid.. you're frying yourself boy. LUTO.

[zerobox]

Good day sa inyo. Matanong lang magkakaprob kaya dmax oag kinargahan ng euro 4 diesel? Totoo ba na mandatory na euro 4 sa january 1 2016..