Isuzu Crosswind Owners Thread [ARCHIVED]

[MACpod]

OT: may improvement narin ang leaf springs ng bagong xwind...

[MACpod]

we might get a crosswind once nabenta ung oto namin. Pinagpipilian namin ung XTi and XUV variant, sportivo is mejo malayo na sa budget. What's the difference between the XTi and XUV? And ano mga freebies na nakuha nyo sa mga dealers? May existing promo po ba isuzu pagdating sa crosswind? tnx!

i just got my XTi sterling silver. major disparity nya sa XUV is ung tire size at pagiging lifted nito. more "sporty" looks, so to speak.

but i still chose the XTi for the price difference of around 80k. IMO, looks almost the same, spare tire mounting lang ay nasa ilalim unlike sa XUV na nasa likod. and i prefer the 3rd row seats to be front facing (XUV's 3rd row seats are side facing parin). And since the tires are smaller (205/65 vs 235/70 ng XUV) mas ok ung ride.

generally, i'm happy and satisfied.

[monmendoza]

i just got my XTi sterling silver. major disparity nya sa XUV is ung tire size at pagiging lifted nito. more "sporty" looks, so to speak.

but i still chose the XTi for the price difference of around 80k. IMO, looks almost the same, spare tire mounting lang ay nasa ilalim unlike sa XUV na nasa likod. and i prefer the 3rd row seats to be front facing (XUV's 3rd row seats are side facing parin). And since the tires are smaller (205/65 vs 235/70 ng XUV) mas ok ung ride.

generally, i'm happy and satisfied.

Just don't ask your friends or relatives to go on a convoy going to baguio. Because the crosswind will have a very hard time going up and maintaining a decent speed specially if its automatic.In our latest baguio trip, We have to wait for about 30 minutes for a crosswind XUV because it cannot overtake 2 trucks along kennon going up to baguio. And the 2 trucks were lumbering along at 20kph. In fact we were so worried that an accident has happend to them because they were late for a long time.When they arrived in Baguio the owner of the crosswind keeps on saying sorry.In fact after that trip, we call our friend Mr. Sorry. Its pathetic , spending a lot on a car and everytime you are in a caravan, you apologize for the deficiencies of your vehicle knowing that you are the cause why everybody has slow to down.

[rsnald]

Just don't ask your friends or relatives to go on a convoy going to baguio. Because the crosswind will have a very hard time going up and maintaining a decent speed specially if its automatic.In our latest baguio trip, We have to wait for about 30 minutes for a crosswind XUV because it cannot overtake 2 trucks along kennon going up to baguio. And the 2 trucks were lumbering along at 20kph. In fact we were so worried that an accident has happend to them because they were late for a long time.When they arrived in Baguio the owner of the crosswind keeps on saying sorry.In fact after that trip, we call our friend Mr. Sorry. Its pathetic , spending a lot on a car and everytime you are in a caravan, you apologize for the deficiencies of your vehicle knowing that you are the cause why everybody has slow to down.

beg to disagree with this, I been to Baguio on my xto thrice already thru Marcos highway. Wala sa kotse yan, nasa nagmamaneho and also depends if you know how to use the proper gear and right rev and stepping technique on the accelerator.

Assuming not much traffic going up, the xto,xt, xti, xl (dunno about the xuv's though w/ its larger tires) can go up Baguio at 50-60kph at 3rd gear consistently. Medyo maingay lang talga since you'll be revving the engine to 3000rpm. If you're slowed down by trucks travelling at 20-25kph, the technique is to down shift to 2nd gear, rev past 3000 rpm (around 3500-4000 rpm) to accelerate quickly up to 40-45 kph to pass those trucks. At kung mabibitin ka, the trick is to "pump" the gas pedal - let go of the pedal momentarily then press it again, and you'll get an extra boost going up. The only vehicles that could beat me when I going up baguio were sedans who had one or two passengers and the 3.0L diesel engined Toyota hilux, and the 2.9L intercooler turbo carnival and starex.

[FrankDrebin]

I agree with rsnald. Maybe monmendoza is driving a V8-powered SUV?

[monmendoza]

I agree with rsnald. Maybe monmendoza is driving a V8-powered SUV?

No, I was driving a starex crdi. The other vehicles in our convoy were a pajero 2.8L diesel, an adventure 2.0 gas, and the Crosswind XUV. I totally agree that a driver will play a key role in determining the performance of a vehicle. Specially if you are driving a manual vehicle. I also would like to point out that going up via Kennon is much harder than via Marcos highway. Kennon is practically 2 lanes only while marcos highway is 3 sometimes 4 lanes. the grade in kennon is much steeper than Marcos highway the roads in kennon is also of poor quality compared to Marcos Highway. and in Kennon, the visible stretch is normally only about 150 meters. So you have to accelerate much faster or else you will be overtaking in a blindspot which is very dangerous. The event that I describe happened only this April 2007. We were on our way to Mt. Data which is 100kms farther from baguio along the Halshema highway.
Anyway Im not asking you to take my word for it. It was just a first hand experience of mine. Im quite sure that I am not only one who have seen a crosswind having problems going uphill in a winding road in a convoy. Good luck on you crosswind purchase.

[meltrob]

I 'm driving a crosswind xtrm manual and have no problem going uphill.

[niky]

Well, it was most likely an AT Crosswind... those are slow as heck.

No problems, really, going uphill... but maintaining convoy is another thing, entirely, as a Crosswind can't latch on to the end of the gravy train when you're all going around a truck (0-100 in half a minute... even longer if it's AT).

[FrankDrebin]

No, I was driving a starex crdi. The other vehicles in our convoy were a pajero 2.8L diesel, an adventure 2.0 gas, and the Crosswind XUV. I totally agree that a driver will play a key role in determining the performance of a vehicle. Specially if you are driving a manual vehicle. I also would like to point out that going up via Kennon is much harder than via Marcos highway. Kennon is practically 2 lanes only while marcos highway is 3 sometimes 4 lanes. the grade in kennon is much steeper than Marcos highway the roads in kennon is also of poor quality compared to Marcos Highway. and in Kennon, the visible stretch is normally only about 150 meters. So you have to accelerate much faster or else you will be overtaking in a blindspot which is very dangerous. The event that I describe happened only this April 2007. We were on our way to Mt. Data which is 100kms farther from baguio along the Halshema highway.
Anyway Im not asking you to take my word for it. It was just a first hand experience of mine. Im quite sure that I am not only one who have seen a crosswind having problems going uphill in a winding road in a convoy. Good luck on you crosswind purchase.

From the given vehicles in your convoy, the crosswind seems to be the weakest link in terms of engine HP. I think this answered the question regarding why the Crosswind was left behind.

[top_spin]

i just got my XTi sterling silver. major disparity nya sa XUV is ung tire size at pagiging lifted nito. more "sporty" looks, so to speak.

but i still chose the XTi for the price difference of around 80k. IMO, looks almost the same, spare tire mounting lang ay nasa ilalim unlike sa XUV na nasa likod. and i prefer the 3rd row seats to be front facing (XUV's 3rd row seats are side facing parin). And since the tires are smaller (205/65 vs 235/70 ng XUV) mas ok ung ride.

generally, i'm happy and satisfied.

Sir Mcpod, im newbie here and also planning to buy our first family car. Like you, am also working in the middle east. Crosswind is first in our list. Magkano na po ngayon ang XTi.

thanks...

[mhelskie]

as far asa i know, XTi po is at 890K(unit price), IMO okay na din ang XTi, advantage dito is ung front facing 3rd row seats...kung mga 6 or 7 lang ang sasakay, kasyang kasya na. XUV i think is around 990K(unit price). for the price difference, better go with the XTi, mas okay pa ride. Tatay ko lang makulit kaya nabili namin ung 2k6 na sportivo, pero okei nman, sulit hehe. D nga lang sulit sa akin mga amenities kse ako lagi driver *asar*

[MACpod]

Sir Mcpod, im newbie here and also planning to buy our first family car. Like you, am also working in the middle east. Crosswind is first in our list. Magkano na po ngayon ang XTi.

thanks...

XTi costs 899,000. but you can ask your agent for discount. what i got was around 30k discount. nirequest ko din ung undercoating rustproofing which i also got for free.

i also had alot of inquiries re:crosswind. you can search for my previous threads. thing is majority puro negative ang remarks (i bet you even read some of the responses here aswell).

but still i went for it bec of it's proven fuel efficiency+tibay ng makina. yes the third row seats are already front facing, so that's another factor.
ride has improved bec of its leaf springs din. as for speed, since regalo ko nman ito sa parents ko, di nman nila kelangan makipagovertake palagi. moderate speed lang palagi sila. when i asked them about it, they were very complacent sa performance. so that makes me very happy and satisfied.

good luck sa car hunting mo.

[top_spin]

Sir Mhelskie, sir MACpod thanks for your response...

You're right sir MACpod, i have read all the negative comments regarding the Crosswind in this thread. From the uncomfortable ride to the engine noise and other things related to the quality of workmanship for it's interiors etc...

Even with those negative comments that i've read, it would still be my first choice. The thing is, aside from the fuel effeciency, isuzu deisel engines i think are proven, tested and reliable. And it is within my budget too. You would just have to bear the engine noise.

Other option on my list is the Innova. But i have read some negative responses also regarding the Deisel Engine problems of Toyota. Were they able to fix these problems already?

What are the difference by the way between the XT and XTi variants of Crosswind?

Thanks again...

[wonderloo]

hi.

I'm thinking of getting a sportivo...

pero, hindi ba magbabago na yun body nito?
like yun d-max mukhang magkaka facelift na?

sayang naman, kuha ngayon tapos next month all-new na or facelift na...

thanks guys.

[Syuryuken]

Sir Mcpod, im newbie here and also planning to buy our first family car. Like you, am also working in the middle east. Crosswind is first in our list. Magkano na po ngayon ang XTi.

thanks...

What are the difference by the way between the XT and XTi variants of Crosswind?

You can't go wrong with the Crosswind. Matagtag, mausok, mabagal (hindi naman ginawang pangarera ang Isuzu Hilander/Xwind), maugong yan ang negative comments nila sa Xwind. On the positive side timing gear ang ginagamit hindi ka nag-aalalang baka maputulan, malakas ang aircon, matibay sa kargahan, durable at reliable ang makina.

XTI -remote keyless entry, power door locks, power side mirrors, power windows
XT - mechanical/manual lock/windows

Good Luck!!!

[MACpod]

What are the difference by the way between the XT and XTi variants of Crosswind

For the outer, same lang ang face and outlook nila, except that xti side mirror is chrome and it is retractrable, xt side mirror is black.
same size in mags but xti is diff. in design, front bumper of xti is body color while xt is black,
same engine (fr lowest variant to sportivo)
for the interior, both have power windows and lock,
except xti is keyless entry and have alarm and power side mirrors.
the front seat of the xti is bucket seat so the handbrake is in between the driver and the passenger,
the xt's handbrake is pull and twist sa may dashboard.

HTH

[MACpod]

XT - manual/mechanical windows, locks
XTI - all power

Good Luck!!!

sir, XT and XTi are power windows and locks, the lowest variant which is the XL ang mech'l windows and locks

[sandamakmak]

i just got my XTi sterling silver. major disparity nya sa XUV is ung tire size at pagiging lifted nito. more "sporty" looks, so to speak.

but i still chose the XTi for the price difference of around 80k. IMO, looks almost the same, spare tire mounting lang ay nasa ilalim unlike sa XUV na nasa likod. and i prefer the 3rd row seats to be front facing (XUV's 3rd row seats are side facing parin). And since the tires are smaller (205/65 vs 235/70 ng XUV) mas ok ung ride.

generally, i'm happy and satisfied.

hi MACpod, I'm also planning to buy a diesel AUV pag-balik ko ng pinas and ang choice ko is also the XTi but I want the 3rd row seats to be side facing (front facing na kasi ung adventure namin eh) did your dealer mentioned to you na it's possible to have an XTi w/ side facing third row seats? and is it true that there's a common defect of leaking radiators dun sa crosswind and are those rumours pertains to the 2007 crosswind? thanks in advance sir! Peace!

[niky]

The leaking radiator thing was fixed long ago. The exhaust rattle thing was supposedly fixed with the "Sportivo" generation. The only downsides left to the current Crosswind, maintenance-wise, are the rattling interior trim and noise.

[MACpod]

hi MACpod, I'm also planning to buy a diesel AUV pag-balik ko ng pinas and ang choice ko is also the XTi but I want the 3rd row seats to be side facing (front facing na kasi ung adventure namin eh) did your dealer mentioned to you na it's possible to have an XTi w/ side facing third row seats? and is it true that there's a common defect of leaking radiators dun sa crosswind and are those rumours pertains to the 2007 crosswind? thanks in advance sir! Peace!

if that's the case, might aswell settle with XT. it has it's 3rd row seats side facing. and what's best is 800k nalang sya ata? am not sure. you can check their website: isuzuphil.com
but am sure mas mababa ung price nya. i've already mentioned the difference of XT with XTi above.
as for the radiator problem, like what niky has mentioned, na ayos na. un nalang tlgang maugong na makina ang mapapansin. but if you're used to diesel, tolerable naman.

good luck sa purchase!