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    #2541
    Just got mu LS-A last Tuesday. Coming from a Dmax 4JJ1 LS and a 2015 fortuner vnt, I can say that the Mux is more powerful than the 4jj1 (primarily due to the bigger torque) but just about the same as the fortuner. May RAW feeling kasi ang fortuner ko simply because it has 4 forward gears. The Mux has a more relaxed power delivery beacause it has one gear more. Ride quality and security is also superb in the mux. I can tell because in the fortuner, i always have this feeling of tipping over or turning turtle. In the Mux, none.

    Para sa mga taong nakatingin lang sa spec sheet....here's from an owner of both 2015 2.5 fortuner VNT AT and 2015 2.5 Mux AT. Hope this helps in future purchase.

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    Just got mu LS-A last Tuesday. Coming from a Dmax 4JJ1 LS and a 2015 fortuner vnt, I can say that the Mux is more powerful than the 4jj1 (primarily due to the bigger torque) but just about the same as the fortuner. May RAW feeling kasi ang fortuner ko simply because it has 4 forward gears. The Mux has a more relaxed power delivery beacause it has one gear more. Ride quality and security is also superb in the mux. I can tell because in the fortuner, i always have this feeling of tipping over or turning turtle. In the Mux, none.

    Para sa mga taong nakatingin lang sa spec sheet....here's from an owner of both 2015 2.5 fortuner VNT AT and 2015 2.5 Mux AT. Hope this helps in future purchase.

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    #2542
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Just got mu LS-A last Tuesday. Coming from a Dmax 4JJ1 LS and a 2015 fortuner vnt, I can say that the Mux is more powerful than the 4jj1 (primarily due to the bigger torque) but just about the same as the fortuner. May RAW feeling kasi ang fortuner ko simply because it has 4 forward gears. The Mux has a more relaxed power delivery beacause it has one gear more. Ride quality and security is also superb in the mux. I can tell because in the fortuner, i always have this feeling of tipping over or turning turtle. In the Mux, none.

    Para sa mga taong nakatingin lang sa spec sheet....here's from an owner of both 2015 2.5 fortuner VNT AT and 2015 2.5 Mux AT. Hope this helps in future purchase.

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    Just got mu LS-A last Tuesday. Coming from a Dmax 4JJ1 LS and a 2015 fortuner vnt, I can say that the Mux is more powerful than the 4jj1 (primarily due to the bigger torque) but just about the same as the fortuner. May RAW feeling kasi ang fortuner ko simply because it has 4 forward gears. The Mux has a more relaxed power delivery beacause it has one gear more. Ride quality and security is also superb in the mux. I can tell because in the fortuner, i always have this feeling of tipping over or turning turtle. In the Mux, none.

    Para sa mga taong nakatingin lang sa spec sheet....here's from an owner of both 2015 2.5 fortuner VNT AT and 2015 2.5 Mux AT. Hope this helps in future purchase.
    Nicre review bro. Hopefully by Dec. And Jan. okay na supply. The 1.3 plus variant and TOTL same rims ba?

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    #2543
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Just got mu LS-A last Tuesday. Coming from a Dmax 4JJ1 LS and a 2015 fortuner vnt, I can say that the Mux is more powerful than the 4jj1 (primarily due to the bigger torque) but just about the same as the fortuner. May RAW feeling kasi ang fortuner ko simply because it has 4 forward gears. The Mux has a more relaxed power delivery beacause it has one gear more. Ride quality and security is also superb in the mux. I can tell because in the fortuner, i always have this feeling of tipping over or turning turtle. In the Mux, none.

    Para sa mga taong nakatingin lang sa spec sheet....here's from an owner of both 2015 2.5 fortuner VNT AT and 2015 2.5 Mux AT. Hope this helps in future purchase.
    Congrats sir! Unfortunately we can't force them to believe what they don't want to understand. Hehe.

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    #2544
    Quote Originally Posted by 3GEMS View Post
    Nicre review bro. Hopefully by Dec. And Jan. okay na supply. The 1.3 plus variant and TOTL same rims ba?
    Yup brother same rims siya. Actually its pretty cheap and loaded for the price. I bought my Fortuner last January for 1.525M. This Mux variant is a lot cheaper with Stability control, passive entry and push start (loving this feature, no need to bring out key...nakaplastic pa nga hehe), 10" monitor (my kids love 'em), 5 speed vs the 4at of the fort. I also find it 1.5km/L more economical vs the fortuner (both are still in break in).

    * LancerA174A, I really don't mind bro. I am an Isuzu fanboy. I had a local 4jg2 trooper, a 4jh1 dmax, a 4jj1 dmax and now this 4jx1. I tried going the Ford, Mitsu, and Toyota Route but I always have been comfortable with Isuzu.

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    #2545
    Mu-x brothers, in case someone still wants to add power to their rigs, I know of someone selling an ECU Shop chip, plug and play specific for 4jk1 vgs mux engine. I was able to try this out on an Mu-x and power delivery is very good. No CEL too since its really meant for the vehicle. Butt dyno I think its in the 160hp 350 to 370nm torque band.

    PM me.

    See link.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vhKyqshcA

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    Mu-x brothers, in case someone still wants to add power to their rigs, I know of someone selling an ECU Shop chip, plug and play specific for 4jk1 vgs mux engine. I was able to try this out on an Mu-x and power delivery is very good. No CEL too since its really meant for the vehicle. Butt dyno I think its in the 160hp 350 to 370nm torque band.

    PM me.

    See link.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9vhKyqshcA

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    #2546
    Dati 30k yan ngayon 55k na ba? Hehehe

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    #2547
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Dati 30k yan ngayon 55k na ba? Hehehe
    Yung ECU-shop chip? Brand new selling is 26k. I have an extra unit only fitted for test run (less than a day used), selling for sub 20k.

    This is made and programmed specifically for the 4jk1 vgs and cannot be transferred to a different engine. I think the 30k to 55k you are referring to are the programmable chips (racechip and dpchip).

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    #2548
    Quote Originally Posted by Djerms View Post
    Yung ECU-shop chip? Brand new selling is 26k. I have an extra unit only fitted for test run (less than a day used), selling for sub 20k.

    This is made and programmed specifically for the 4jk1 vgs and cannot be transferred to a different engine. I think the 30k to 55k you are referring to are the programmable chips (racechip and dpchip).
    Ah yeah. Good deal bro. Unleash the beast👹 👍

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    #2549
    Sir do these chips void the warranty? Alam ko yung DPChip hindi daw eh, kaya mahal din? Mukhang ok nga magpalagay, pero skeptical lang din ako baka may masirang part in the long run :/

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    #2550
    Quote Originally Posted by LancerA174A View Post
    Sir do these chips void the warranty? Alam ko yung DPChip hindi daw eh, kaya mahal din? Mukhang ok nga magpalagay, pero skeptical lang din ako baka may masirang part in the long run :/
    You wont access maximum power everyday bro. Even sa overtaking. Sa expressway lng and you dont want to be overspeeding all the time anyway. Regular oil change lng naman and coolant check. Even the aisin transmission can take 370Nm.

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    #2551
    Quote Originally Posted by LancerA174A View Post
    Sir do these chips void the warranty? Alam ko yung DPChip hindi daw eh, kaya mahal din? Mukhang ok nga magpalagay, pero skeptical lang din ako baka may masirang part in the long run :/
    Yes. Void warranty yan sir since babaguhin ng chip ang default setting ng ECU. Wala pa yan sa mga ginagawa ng mga taga thailand. Open engine palit lahat. Hehe.

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    #2552
    Quote Originally Posted by frostmourn View Post
    Yes. Void warranty yan sir since babaguhin ng chip ang default setting ng ECU. Wala pa yan sa mga ginagawa ng mga taga thailand. Open engine palit lahat. Hehe.
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    You wont access maximum power everyday bro. Even sa overtaking. Sa expressway lng and you dont want to be overspeeding all the time anyway. Regular oil change lng naman and coolant check. Even the aisin transmission can take 370Nm.
    Ah I see, kasi may isa ako nabasa even sa Australia di void warranty nila, ipakita lang daw yung document or something. Tas plug and play lang kaya siguro before you bring your car to CASA tanggalin muna hehe.

    134 horses is ok naman, I'm not saying na kulang pero minsan siyempre mas ok din may extra power for overtaking.

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    #2553
    Quote Originally Posted by LancerA174A View Post
    Ah I see, kasi may isa ako nabasa even sa Australia di void warranty nila, ipakita lang daw yung document or something. Tas plug and play lang kaya siguro before you bring your car to CASA tanggalin muna hehe.

    134 horses is ok naman, I'm not saying na kulang pero minsan siyempre mas ok din may extra power for overtaking.
    Technically, yes it will void the warranty but its easily removable in case you want to claim anything from the casa. It also has an OFF mode so you can bring it in and they can plug in the OBD scanner on stock settings.

    It minimizes turbo lag as the vgt spools earlier. Conservative settings pa ito compared sa mga extreme set-ups sa thailand. The stock isuzu engine having been detuned conservatively, can handle more than a 30hp and 50Nm increase in power.
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    #2554
    You should have bought the TB if power is your main motivation. To chip your engine to a quick death, against your warranty, is not the brightest idea anyone should subscribe to.

    Deft control of the a/t shift can get you out of any tight squeeze, even up Kennon or Marcos Hiways. If I can do it with a 4a/t Innova, you can hell do as well or better in a 5a/t MUx

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    #2555
    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomer123 View Post
    You should have bought the TB if power is your main motivation. To chip your engine to a quick death, against your warranty, is not the brightest idea anyone should subscribe to.

    Deft control of the a/t shift can get you out of any tight squeeze, even up Kennon or Marcos Hiways. If I can do it with a 4a/t Innova, you can hell do as well or better in a 5a/t MUx
    People will not just buy at TB if power is the main motivation. Believe it or not, before buying the Mux, I already reserved for a wrx until the stupid agent gave up my color due to miscommunication. Besides, if the TB is the comparison, I'd rather drive a few other SUV's in our stable.

    And who's says chipping results to the engine's quick death? Against warranty, you chip because you can. Well I tried it because I can. If you are saying that you bought the vehicle with your hard earned money and you shouldn't risk the warranty and chipping (safely) will not let you sleep well at night, then its not for you or any minor modifications that will risk warranty

    And you chip not because you cannot go up to baguio. Its the same reason why you buy a more powerful suv even if your 4at innova can go up to baguio. In short a chipped sarao jeepney with a 4jk1 vgs engine is okay in the eyes of its owner....in short kanya kanyang trip. Peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomer123 View Post
    You should have bought the TB if power is your main motivation. To chip your engine to a quick death, against your warranty, is not the brightest idea anyone should subscribe to.

    Deft control of the a/t shift can get you out of any tight squeeze, even up Kennon or Marcos Hiways. If I can do it with a 4a/t Innova, you can hell do as well or better in a 5a/t MUx
    People will not just buy at TB if power is the main motivation. Believe it or not, before buying the Mux, I already reserved for a wrx until the stupid agent gave up my color due to miscommunication. Besides, if the TB is the comparison, I'd rather drive a few other SUV's in our stable.

    And who's says chipping results to the engine's quick death? Against warranty, you chip because you can. Well I tried it because I can. If you are saying that you bought the vehicle with your hard earned money and you shouldn't risk the warranty and chipping (safely) will not let you sleep well at night, then its not for you or any minor modifications that will risk warranty

    And you chip not because you cannot go up to baguio. Its the same reason why you buy a more powerful suv even if your 4at innova can go up to baguio. In short a chipped sarao jeepney with a 4jk1 vgs engine is okay in the eyes of its owner....in short kanya kanyang trip. Peace.

    By the way, Im not hard selling the chip. As i've said, I know of someone who sells them and I have an extra used unit for the vgs. Kung hindi ko mabebenta, no worries. I can just keep it and install in another 4jk1 in the future
    Last edited by Djerms; August 23rd, 2015 at 05:54 AM.

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    #2556
    Quote Originally Posted by Newcomer123 View Post
    Deft control of the a/t shift can get you out of any tight squeeze, even up Kennon or Marcos Hiways. If I can do it with a 4a/t Innova, you can hell do as well or better in a 5a/t MUx
    Same 5at aisin transmission on the 3.0vgs (380nm) and new strada.

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    #2557
    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Same 5at aisin transmission on the 3.0vgs (380nm) and new strada.
    Yup is the same. As long as you don't abuse the engine, nothing wrong will happen compared to a stock abused engine. I know of someone from the Dmax club who ran a total of 300k kms with a chipped engine

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    Quote Originally Posted by StockEngine View Post
    Same 5at aisin transmission on the 3.0vgs (380nm) and new strada.
    Yup is the same. As long as you don't abuse the engine, nothing wrong will happen compared to a stock abused engine. I know of someone from the Dmax club who ran a total of 300k kms with a chipped engine

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    #2558
    Wrx!!!! Thats sick! Yeah i have checked TB as well before buying my monty (off course i will scout other car first before finalizing my decision). Power to weight ratio is the key. It feels heavy and the engine is just right for its weight. If you relly want to feel the pulling power get a truck instead. ''Uso naman ngayon mag drive ng 4x4 pick up trucks sa city''. I have seen a b*dass colorado. Lol. Btw i have tried mux 4x2 vgs already since my uncle owns one. The power is good already but yes trip trip lang. Hehe. Put a chip on and remove it every PMS. :D

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    #2559
    Quote Originally Posted by frostmourn View Post
    Wrx!!!! Thats sick! Yeah i have checked TB as well before buying my monty (off course i will scout other car first before finalizing my decision). Power to weight ratio is the key. It feels heavy and the engine is just right for its weight. If you relly want to feel the pulling power get a truck instead. ''Uso naman ngayon mag drive ng 4x4 pick up trucks sa city''. I have seen a b*dass colorado. Lol. Btw i have tried mux 4x2 vgs already since my uncle owns one. The power is good already but yes trip trip lang. Hehe. Put a chip on and remove it every PMS. :D
    On a different note. Ganda talaga ng ride ng Mux. With a ride like this, I don't mind going sarao slow....Hehehe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frostmourn View Post
    Wrx!!!! Thats sick! Yeah i have checked TB as well before buying my monty (off course i will scout other car first before finalizing my decision). Power to weight ratio is the key. It feels heavy and the engine is just right for its weight. If you relly want to feel the pulling power get a truck instead. ''Uso naman ngayon mag drive ng 4x4 pick up trucks sa city''. I have seen a b*dass colorado. Lol. Btw i have tried mux 4x2 vgs already since my uncle owns one. The power is good already but yes trip trip lang. Hehe. Put a chip on and remove it every PMS. :D
    On a different note. Ganda talaga ng ride ng Mux. With a ride like this, I don't mind going sarao slow....Hehehe.

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    thank you very much for the info. am buying the Mux na talaga by the way, is there anybody here who can give me an opinion on the service, when it comes to pms of both isuzu alabang and greenhills? i live near alabang but if greenhills service is much better then i don't mind going through traffic in EDSA if they can take care of my Mux better.thanks everyone!

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