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    #5641
    side garnish...malapit na hehehe

    clear white ( tisay na naman) or techno orange

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    #5642
    Maganda yung techno orange, sayang inalis yun sa color option dito. Limited edition na tuloy sila. May rumors na baka daw alisin din yung sand track :naughty2:

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    #5644
    Thanks po ulit sa mga comments nyo. super laki talaga ng tulong sa amin... hehehe actually naisip ko na din c kia sportage. pero ang ayaw ko lang kasi sa kia is parang mababa ang resale value nya compared sa tucson? feel ko kasi among mga korean car companies, ang hyundai na ang meron best resale value.

    Actually choices ko are as follows:

    1. toyota innova diesel g variant.
    2. hyundai tucson
    3. kia sportage

    may idea po ba kayo regarding sa fuel efficiency ng the following vehicles? Galing kasi kami sa revo ang lakas kc sa gas kaya bnenta namin. Kaya now we want to make sure that the car we will buy have great fuel efficiency. We also own a honda city 1.5 E ang lakas dn sa gas... =(

    sir starex gold, cge po refer nyo po ako para makatipid kami sa deals. dito ako located sa timog avenue quezon city.

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    #5645
    ^^among your choices yung innova na pinakamatipid dyan, unless diesel na tucson kukunin mo. Hindi nagkakalayo fuel consumption ng gas tucson at sportage, probably around 6-7km city driving. Pag gas na suv siguradong parang lasenggo yan uminom ng fuel.

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    #5646
    with regards to gas consumption, depende na yan how you accelerate, depende na sa pag-apak mo, kung nag maintain ka sa 2k (experts correct me here) rpm, medyo matipid ka sa gas, pero kung mabigat ka umapak like me, lalaklak tayo ng gas.

    OT lang about resale value, who dictate ba the resale value, supply and demand lang yan di ba, ano ba mga factors consider ng mga 2nd hand owners.

    basta sir, kung ano napupusuan mo dun ka, besides you'll be the one driving that for the next couple of years, sakit naman sa loob nyan habang nag drive ka tapos may nakatabi ka na one of your choices tapos sasabihin mo sana eto yung binili ko, mahirap yan

    good luck =)

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    #5647
    Quote Originally Posted by wingeofus View Post
    Thanks po ulit sa mga comments nyo. super laki talaga ng tulong sa amin... hehehe actually naisip ko na din c kia sportage. pero ang ayaw ko lang kasi sa kia is parang mababa ang resale value nya compared sa tucson? feel ko kasi among mga korean car companies, ang hyundai na ang meron best resale value.

    Actually choices ko are as follows:

    1. toyota innova diesel g variant.
    2. hyundai tucson
    3. kia sportage

    may idea po ba kayo regarding sa fuel efficiency ng the following vehicles? Galing kasi kami sa revo ang lakas kc sa gas kaya bnenta namin. Kaya now we want to make sure that the car we will buy have great fuel efficiency. We also own a honda city 1.5 E ang lakas dn sa gas... =(

    sir starex gold, cge po refer nyo po ako para makatipid kami sa deals. dito ako located sa timog avenue quezon city.
    I don't mind the resale value of our cars. Not because we can always afford a new car, it's because you get to enjoy the car as long as the car is with you.

    We had an Innova E D4D A/T before, FC is around 8km/L in city driving, tapos medyo bitin ang engine power.

    Tucson & Sportage Theta II will consume around 6km/L to 8km/L. Depending on the traffic condition and your driving style. Be gentle on the gas pedal in city driving, pero sa highway ratrat na agad.

    Plus the difference in quality, remember the Innova is just an IMV (third world vehicle). The Sportage & Tucson is a global car. 5 Star EURO NCAP & ANCAP safety test..

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    This is interesting. Sir Sg, since you own both Tucson CDRI and a Sportage Theta II, can you give your opinion on performance if just for city driving? I think, lamang ang CDRI kapag gitgitan sa trapik, pero will the power of the CDRI really matter that much in city driving? Opinion lang po. Thanks.

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    #5649
    Walang lamang pagdating sa gitgitan, nasa skills na ng driver yan IMHO.

    In city driving, pwede na yung Theta II, you'll just suffer with the FC and the price of unleaded fuel. I use Petron XCS sa Sportage, pero try ko Shell FuelSave next full tank.

    Kasi kapag nasa city ka, di masyado kailangan ng power. You just need to have a car from point A to point B. Ang iisipin mo yung running cost. Fuel cost, fuel consumption and maintenance. Ok ako sa CRDi kasi kahit mag-abot ang FC nila ng Theta II, mas mura parin ang price ng diesel (I use Shell V-Power Diesel). You also have to consider the price difference of the Theta II variant and CRDi variant. May nag-PM sa akin about sa Santa Fe, kung city driving lang daw siya 500kms/month sulit parin ba daw ang CRDi, I said no, for the 200K price difference of the SF Theta and SF CRDi, dun ka na sa Theta kung hindi mo naman lalaspagin. Yung SF namin CRDi kasi daily driver, 9 months palang 17,xxx na agad ang mileage.

    At pagdating sa maintenance, syempre mas mura maintenance ng Theta II. Oil palang, 4 Liters vs. 8 Liters. IMHO hindi talaga "mahal" ang maintenance ng CRDi, mas mataas lang talaga price ng maintenance ng CRDi than gas engines. Basta hindi pa ka-presyo ng Euro car maintenance yan, tolerable price pa yan.

    HTH.
    Last edited by Starex_Gold; August 10th, 2011 at 08:17 PM.

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    #5650
    Nice insight. It's something to consider and think about. Thanks.

    Opinions of other tucson owners are welcome too. Why did you chose your Tucson's engine-type over the other? TIA.

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    #5651
    This is also my dilema before I bought my Tucson, my firstu choice is the crdi as my best friend is a big fan of crdi, he is driving a Ford Focus TDCI, and higly recommends Diesel, and then when I compared the specs of the GLS and GL CRDI, mas lamang pa ang GLS, like seat quality, engine cover, etc. Tapos price difference is 180k. Kung same specs sana sa Theta GLS, no question I will go with the CRDI. Someone posted here na kung makakatipid ka lang ng 500/week sa diesel, makakabawi ka lang in 7 years, so if you are not a sales man, or just average city driving, parang di sya worth it unless of course gustong gusto mo talaga ung high torque ng crdi.... Or hilig ka humataw.... ;) mag crdi ka... Pag hindi, best value for money for me ang theta gls, un nga lang malakas talaga sa gas, pero I think this is just normal for SUV, I came from Ford Escape and mas matipid pa tucson ko ng konti.... Kung gusto mo talaga matipid, don't get an SUV at wala nun lalo na pag GAS.

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    #5652
    based on your analysis sir starex, eh di same case din po with the hyundai tucson? Mas sulit parin if I will buy the theta ii because of the 300k price difference with crdi? Sorry ang daming ques ahh? Girl po kasi ako eh.. wala mashadong alam sa car. hehehe

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    #5653
    I recommend the Theta GLS... Add ka lang konti... Instead of Theta GL daming dagdag...

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    #5654
    does anyone know how to open up the keyless remote? model is ohm048005. Can't seem to pry it open without damaging it >_<

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    #5655
    Quote Originally Posted by IceT View Post
    Nice insight. It's something to consider and think about. Thanks.

    Opinions of other tucson owners are welcome too. Why did you chose your Tucson's engine-type over the other? TIA.
    mine is Theta II

    Reasons

    - running budget (CRDI is more expensive than theta II)
    - city driving lang ako lagi, so hindi ko ma maximize yung power ng CRDI
    - sabi nila madumi talaga ang diesel fuel sa atin, i don't know of the latest technology like the v-power diesel and petron turbo
    diesel baka na improve na to
    - higher maintenance cost

    honestly i don't know the reason why diesel engine is more expensive than the gas engine, considering diesel engine has a higher maintenance cost.

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    #5656
    We got the Theta II after I computed for fuel costs over some potential distances to be covered.
    Being conservative, we had the following assumptions:

    Average fuel economy, predisposed more to city driving
    R-eVGT = 10 km/L
    Theta II = 5 km/L

    Fuel costs
    Diesel = Php45/L
    unleaded = Php 55/L

    Distances to cover:

    a. 50,000 km
    b. 70,000 km


    Scenario (a) - 50,000 km
    R-eVGT: (50,000 km) / (10 km/L) x (45 php/L) = 225,000 php
    Theta II: (50,000 km) / (5 km/L) x (55 php/L) = 550,000 php
    Difference: Php 325,000

    Scenario (b) - 70,000 km
    R-eVGT: (70,000 km) / (10 km/L) x (45 php/L) = 315,000 php
    Theta II: (70,000 km) / (5 km/L) x (55 php/L) = 770,000 php
    Difference: Php 450,000

    R-eVGT GLS = 1,698,000
    Theta II 2.0 GLS = 1,158,000.00
    Difference = Php 540,000

    Since the Tucson we got was going to be more of a wife's car/secondary car, we estimate that we would take around 4-5 years to hit 50,000 km... possibly longer. With that, we feel that even with the higher fuel costs over the period, it's still less expensive overall to get the Tucson Theta II GLS 2.0 over the CRDi version. It'll take over 70,000 km for us to start getting a return on investment if we chose the R-eVGT over the Theta II, but we doubt we'd hit that mileage before thinking of selling it off. This is why we chose the Theta II instead. Note that we didn't even factor in PMS costs.

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    #5657
    Quote Originally Posted by j*sh

    honestly i don't know the reason why diesel engine is more expensive than the gas engine, considering diesel engine has a higher maintenance cost.
    It coud be due to the new technology added such as Turbo, etc, but not reallysure, why the diff is that high.. Is this the same on other markets or here only?

  18. #5658
    i got the diesel variant. but ive compared it with the 2.0 GLS GAS and the 2.0 GL diesel. ofcourse the GL CRDi is a bit stripped of feature with the GLS, but the differences are just the small things. the price difference is just 180,000. for me its justifiable

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    #5659
    Quote Originally Posted by wingeofus View Post
    based on your analysis sir starex, eh di same case din po with the hyundai tucson? Mas sulit parin if I will buy the theta ii because of the 300k price difference with crdi? Sorry ang daming ques ahh? Girl po kasi ako eh.. wala mashadong alam sa car. hehehe
    The sportage and tucson has the exact theta II engine, kaya tama kayo, pero correction on the price difference. Near 200K lang, 180K to be precise. Atsaka, you said something about fuel efficiency, base sa nabasa ko CDRi ang better fuel efficient but higher maintenance cost. We can't have everything daw kung SUV.

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    #5660
    Quote Originally Posted by LucasVN View Post
    It coud be due to the new technology added such as Turbo, etc, but not reallysure, why the diff is that high.. Is this the same on other markets or here only?
    I think it's just supply and demand. There are a lot more gas engines than diesel being sold, so volume production cost is lower for gas engines. In addition, since there's fewer diesel engines, spare parts for maintenance are also fewer, thus the higher maintenance cost. That's why top euro-cars are expensive and maintenance is ridiculous.

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