2011 Accent AT - Engine Knock!

[renzo_d10]

jimny ko is the best. but it is not for everybody, it's for gym fit bodies only kaya i don't recommend it.

oh crap. hahahahahhaa. there you go again !

thank you ob ! solve na araw ko ! :hysterical:

[vivafoxpro]

What I'm saying is... "stay with a gasoline you know won't cause knock" and "I don't absolve Hyundai completely of this issue" (I said something to that effect a few pages back)

Coming from the Ford side of the fence, as I'm a Ford owner, myself... People have had issues with the Lynx and Focus on lower octane fuels, and those aren't luxury cars. Chevrolet has had issues with the Optra that required programming. CATS warns people sometimes not to use certain gasolines or not to go to certain stations with some Chrysler vehicles, as some of the poorly formulated local gasolines can cause "Check Engine" warnings and activate "limp mode". The high strung Miata 2.0 sometimes makes a lot less power when it detects bad gasoline.

My car is retuned for "95", and should be safe with anything between 94-100, but I've had "97" fuels that caused a loss of performance compared to "95"

I've experienced this with modern diesels from various manufacturers, as well. I've had a pick-up from a Japanese manufacturer die on me due to bad fuel. (Tip: don't fill up at Shell on McArthur highway near Santa Lucia... that's a flood-prone area and their tanks are compromised)

It's not hard to understand. Some gasolines are garbage. All modern cars are programmed to cope with a wide variety of conditions... but if the ECU and the oxygen sensors see something that is way outside their adjustment range, then they can't cope.

Others simply play it safe by detuning their engines all the way. In other words, so your car can work on goat's pee, manufacturers like Mazda and Nissan back in the 90's programmed their cars to run extra-rich... which the customers didn't like, either, as it made them gas-guzzlers. Toyota did this too with the Revo. Honda with the CR-V.

I trust that eventually Hyundai should have a reflash suited to local conditions... if the problem becomes widespread enough (as with the Optra issue) but until then, there's a simple solution. Spend the extra 1 peso per liter to buy Premium over Unleaded and avoid certain branches like the plague. What's so bad about that?

Again, lay blame where blame is due. Some local stations have poor QC, poor mixing, and oftentimes, you don't get the RON you're paying for (which has led to both Petron and Shell re-stating RON in the past). Why should I be mad at my own car for something that I know is the fault of the fuel?

That is one satisfying take on this issue.

You truly deserve your senior status in this forum.

As a closing note, I totally agree with your view.

[renzo_d10]

^ LOL.

What do you expect ? Rubbish answers ? Si Niky yan ano ...

[Ry_Tower]

jimny ko is the best. but it is not for everybody, it's for gym fit bodies only kaya i don't recommend it.

For once sakto lang sagot mo sir ah.

[hondaboot]

That is one satisfying take on this issue.

You truly deserve your senior status in this forum.

As a closing note, I totally agree with your view.

seniors are booring

[airolynx]

Just to answer this again: Yes, it's written on the manual. For EU, 95 RON is recommended, if not in EU, you can use 93 RON but expect decrease in performance. No other notes aside from that.

Yun pala. 95 RON. It's just odd that Hyundai brought in a car that requires 95 RON considering its an entry level car. baaaaaaaad boy Hyundai

[andretti]

If you bought it because you like it, wag mo na pagsisihan. In my opinion, mas maganda kung Fuel ang prob. Kung dadami tong cases na ganito, it will be like the notorious D4D issue na hindi ma pinpoint kung Fuel or Engine part/Suction Control Valve issue. And bottomline is while it is so wrong to just simply "live with it", wala tayo magagawa until a definite answer is given.

Kung engine ang sira e di dapat lahat ng D4D sira. Kung Fuel and madumi, dapat lahat ng D4D that use the same fuel, sira din. Kaya ako, kung saan nagpapagas 2 neighbors ko na Fort din, dun ako para kung masira ang Fort ko at alam kong sa kanila ayos, sa engine ang issues.

Yaan mo na yan. I'll buy the Accent someday when all of this is cleared kasi its a good looking motherF.

Ang hirap ng mawala ng 8hrs sa tsikot ah (time diff. from Kuwait), halos 5 pages ang nadagdag, haba ng binasa ko.

Its your opinion why you said this (highlighted), kaso di kasi ako plastic e.
If I knew that this car would be choosy with its fuels before I bought it, then I would not buy it and thats just me...

Practicality wise for me this car is not. To give you an example, kaninang umaga, nagtext si misis, tanong niya, sa Shell lang ba ako magpapagas? ang sagot ko oo kasi yan lang daw ang pwede sa car, and sabi ni misis, bakit ganito, ang arte naman ng car na to, e ang layo ng shell ah?

Kung 1 peso difference sana ok lang, ang problema e yung shell station nearer to our house is having only two fuels, shell unleaded (93ron) and vpower (97ron), alam nyo ba magkano difference.....8pesos.....

56pesos versus 64pesos.
Tell me now why I am not disappointed huh....
And sawa na rin kasi ako sa "wala tayong magagawa" term e.....

As Nicky said I am also hoping that Hyundai will make some tinkering or reflashes to the engine to make it more usable to our local conditions (fuels), which in the first place they should have done long before they released the Accent here.

Pag uwi ko what I will do is to try all 95+RON fuels of all dependable gas stations near our place and find out which is the best (I will post it here after), kasi eto nalang magagawa ko on my part, which is to live with it....

[vivafoxpro]

^ LOL.

What do you expect ? Rubbish answers ? Si Niky yan ano ...

ALL HAIL NIKY ...

San ba pwede magtayo ng rebulto dito sa forum? Hall of shame, ehe, fame pala! wahehehehe...

[sachiel]

A semi noob question: What will happen in the long run if the engine knock doesn't disappear?

[ProdigalGirl]

Mga ilan na ba na release na Accent? Malaki na ba yung 3 cars with issues? Does the knocking sound like running your car 2 gears higher than it should be?

[aargh]

Weird. I have a 2009 vios and Ive tried caltex, petron, unioil, total, flying v, ptt and shell. Pati nga yung ibang stations na maliliit na di kilala natry ko nadin. They're all the same to me. No engineknock, no higher consumption, no reduced performance. Sana hyundai investigates this. Its so easy to blame it on the fuel kasi. But the thing is, those fuels work on other cars. Whats so special abt the accent?

[aargh]

Yun pala. 95 RON. It's just odd that Hyundai brought in a car that requires 95 RON considering its an entry level car. baaaaaaaad boy Hyundai

Wow an entry level car that requires higher octane fuel?? Sana sabihin nila ito sa mga clients before they make a purchase. Im quite sure maraming matuturn off.

[Starex_Gold]

Oo nga eh..

Konting de-tune pa

[aargh]

Oo nga eh..

Konting de-tune pa

What will happen ba pag nadetune? Aside from it being able to accept lower octane fuel, may ibang effects pa ba like loss of hp, torque, efficiency?

[Starex_Gold]

Loss of HP & torque sure yun pag detuned ang engine.. :cry: Not sure with the FC.

Kaya yung R-eVGT natin dito 177BHP & 197BHP lang, sa Korea 185BHP & 200BHP. :headache:

[airolynx]

Wow an entry level car that requires higher octane fuel?? Sana sabihin nila ito sa mga clients before they make a purchase. Im quite sure maraming matuturn off.

Indeed! Yun din yung nakikita kong problem. Entry level car that requires 95 RON. Papano makikipag compete ang HARI sa subcompact category (vios, fiesta and city) kung sa fuel pa lang picky na yung manok nila?

[airolynx]

Bat kasi nilabas pa yung mga petrol versions nung Accent dito. Dapat di na nila tinanggal yung CRDi!!!

[Ry_Tower]

A semi noob question: What will happen in the long run if the engine knock doesn't disappear?

Engine will have problems earlier than expected, low FC and poor aural experience hehehe

Pag uwi ko what I will do is to try all 95+RON fuels of all dependable gas stations near our place and find out which is the best (I will post it here after), kasi eto nalang magagawa ko on my part, which is to live with it....

Nice idea sir if ever nga na hindi pa solved ito and andito ka na sa Pinas. Pls do post your findings. If I may suggest, mga 5-10 liters per brandlang siguro ipa-fuel mo while making sure na kunti na lang talaga sa fuel tank na gas just to be more accurate.

[obet_carlos]

is it the brand (petron) or the octane rating? i gased up with xcs.. 95 octane siya.. which is, form your replies, ok for my accent.. its only 75 cents more expensive than the petron unleaded.. so d mabigat sa bulsa.. para parang experiment, xcs lang papagas ko tapos update ko kayo.. kung magkakaroon ng engine knock..
pansin ko din nung pag bagong start at malamig pa yung makina mavibrate masyado, as in kita sa temp plate yung pagvibrate.. at high rpm yung idling niya..

[airolynx]

is it the brand (petron) or the octane rating? i gased up with xcs.. 95 octane siya.. which is, form your replies, ok for my accent.. its only 75 cents more expensive than the petron unleaded.. so d mabigat sa bulsa.. para parang experiment, xcs lang papagas ko tapos update ko kayo.. kung magkakaroon ng engine knock..
pansin ko din nung pag bagong start at malamig pa yung makina mavibrate masyado, as in kita sa temp plate yung pagvibrate.. at high rpm yung idling niya..

Nice one sir obet. let us know your findings.