Honda Mobilio

[b_9904]

Ows 17 km/L city driving? Libre kita full tank pag nagawa mo yan sa normal city traffic sa metro manila.

Baka naman Sunday, 3am, Commonwealth yang 17 km/L. [emoji23]

Sir, magkita na tayo for that full tank.

Yan po figure ng ECORACE ng Suzuki last Saturday (8AM-2PM). Albeit, there is nothing ECO sa driving namin kasi RACE po yun first and foremost.

Tinalo nya po ang Celerio at Alto.

Check ERTIGA CLUB Philippines facebook page for proof.

yung ibang career racer Ertigas did a decent 12 kpl, yung AT naman did 20.64 kpl.

So... kelan po kayo free?

[jut703]

Edi hindi yun normal conditions ) ecorace pala eh, sunday pa.

Like I said, normal city driving conditions - daily grind to work plus weekend trips if any. Let's see you get 17 km/L there.

[b_9904]

Edi hindi yun normal conditions ) ecorace pala eh, sunday pa.

Like I said, normal city driving conditions - daily grind to work plus weekend trips if any. Let's see you get 17 km/L there.

Sir, saturday po. mali day ko.

Eco RACE, as in AMAZING race po.

If you want to... errrhhhmmm... chicken out. ok lang. I wont take it against you.

Basta the proof po ay nasa pudding... yung pudding is waiting for you sa FB page na yun.

Go check it out if you have the time po, you might like what you see. :D

Have a great day sir :D

PS: Lowest Ertiga FC was 9kpl, pero nakikipag habulan pa yung sa Celerio hahaha Highest FC was an AT with full a.c. on * 20kpl

[jut703]

Sir, saturday po. mali day ko.

Eco RACE, as in AMAZING race po.

If you want to... errrhhhmmm... chicken out. ok lang. I wont take it against you.

Basta the proof po ay nasa pudding... yung pudding is waiting for you sa FB page na yun.

Go check it out if you have the time po, you might like what you see. :D

Have a great day sir :D

PS: Lowest Ertiga FC was 9kpl, pero nakikipag habulan pa yung sa Celerio hahaha Highest FC was an AT with full a.c. on * 20kpl

Pilosopo ka rin eh no, edi hindi nga normal conditions yun. It's a freakin competition. I don't discount that the Ertiga can that kind of mileage, just not on normal driving.

I read the Ertiga threads and noone consistently does 17 km/L in everyday city driving. Not even a Mirage can consistently do 17 km/L in rush hour metro traffic.

Hindi ko kailangan magchicken out. Unli gasolina ko for goodness sake. Just not worth treating people who make silly claims.

[b_9904]

Sigh...

FINE, you win.

Ni hindi mo nga alam yung race conditions to win, traffic conditions, routes taken by each participant, driving habits, et al.

Your mind closed at ECO, despite the fact there was nothing ECO in the conditions to win in the first place.

But hey... silly ako eh.

Pilosopo ka rin eh no, edi hindi nga normal conditions yun. It's a freakin competition. I don't discount that the Ertiga can that kind of mileage, just not on normal driving.

I read the Ertiga threads and noone consistently does 17 km/L in everyday city driving. Not even a Mirage can consistently do 17 km/L in rush hour metro traffic.

Hindi ko kailangan magchicken out. Unli gasolina ko for goodness sake. Just not worth treating people who make silly claims.

[jut703]

Go on then, enlighten me about the race conditions. Just interested in the route actually.

I don't give a rat's ass if you called it an eco race or a gas gulping race. A race is a race and is not normal driving. In other words, not what most people would get in their daily travel. Heck, even on highway driving, not everyone goes past 15 km/L with the Ertiga. This is of course a real trip, not an agreed event/race/whatever you wanna call it.

Simple lang naman - kayo bang mga naka Ertiga sa araw araw na city driving sa metro manila eh nakaka-17 km/L?

[b_9904]

At dahil hindi ako silly...

AMAZING RACE, yan po yung rules. Route? what route?

Our route was, 8AM total calle industria -> C5/Kalayaan-> Xavier ville -> Anonas -> K6-> Maliksi -> EDSA-> Timog -> Delta -> Q Ave -> Biak Na bato -> Checkered Flag Auto detailing -> Araneta -> Bayani -> Santol-> Aurora -> Nagtahan -> Mendoza -> Suzuki UN -> Qurino Ave -> SLEX -> Kamagong -> Ayala -> EDSA -> Kalayaan -> 5th Ave -> 20th drive -> eliminated.

From 8am to 12nn I think.

Driving Style -> RACER MODE. Bigla stop, harurot, etc.

RE: FC on my unit on a daily basis

Once I finish 5k PMS, I will PM you and lets find out.

Go on then, enlighten me about the race conditions. Just interested on the route actually.

I don't give a rat's ass if you called it an eco race or a gas gulping race. A race is a race and is not normal driving. In other words, not what most people would get in their daily travel. Heck, even on highway driving, not everyone goes past 15 km/L with the Ertiga. This is of course a real trip, not an agreed event/race/whatever you wanna call it.

Simple lang naman - kayo bang mga naka Ertiga sa araw araw na city driving sa metro manila eh nakaka-17 km/L?

[jut703]

Ayan, route. Kung ano dinaanan niyo.

My only concern is that posts claiming that the Ertiga does 17 km/L in pure city driving is misleading to potential buyers that read these threads, because reality is that noone can do that on a regular basis (unless perhaps you live along Commonwealth and your office is Technohub and you leave before traffic builds up).

If you wanna convince people of your car's FC, show conclusive data. Eto sample, collected over several thousand km:



Each fillup also has a description of whether it was pure city, mixed driving, or highway if you click the individual entry. Malinaw na nasa 8 km/L yung city, 10-12 km/L mixed, and 14-16 km/L highway. That's not from an Ertiga, but you can do the same with your car so you can determine what FC your car gets in everyday driving conditions instead of making claims based on one-off events.

[b_9904]

If that was your goal to begin with, then you should have just said so. :D

And yes, balak ko gumamit ng ganyang app once tapos na ako sa break in ko.

With that, lets agree that data is needed and leave it at that.

Ayan, route. Kung ano dinaanan niyo.

My only concern is that posts claiming that the Ertiga does 17 km/L in pure city driving is misleading to potential buyers that read these threads, because reality is that noone can do that on a regular basis (unless perhaps you live along Commonwealth and your office is Technohub and you leave before traffic builds up).

If you wanna convince people of your car's FC, show conclusive data. Eto sample, collected over several thousand km:



Each fillup also has a description of whether it was pure city, mixed driving, or highway if you click the individual entry. Malinaw na nasa 8 km/L yung city, 10-12 km/L mixed, and 14-16 km/L highway. That's not from an Ertiga, but you can do the same with your car so you can determine what FC your car gets in everyday driving conditions instead of making claims based on one-off events.

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If that was your goal to begin with, then you should have just said so. :D

And yes, balak ko gumamit ng ganyang app once tapos na ako sa break in ko.

With that, lets agree that data is needed and leave it at that.

Ayan, route. Kung ano dinaanan niyo.

My only concern is that posts claiming that the Ertiga does 17 km/L in pure city driving is misleading to potential buyers that read these threads, because reality is that noone can do that on a regular basis (unless perhaps you live along Commonwealth and your office is Technohub and you leave before traffic builds up).

If you wanna convince people of your car's FC, show conclusive data. Eto sample, collected over several thousand km:



Each fillup also has a description of whether it was pure city, mixed driving, or highway if you click the individual entry. Malinaw na nasa 8 km/L yung city, 10-12 km/L mixed, and 14-16 km/L highway. That's not from an Ertiga, but you can do the same with your car so you can determine what FC your car gets in everyday driving conditions instead of making claims based on one-off events.

[jut703]

I'd suggest that you use a fuel consumption app even during break-in period, so you can also measure the improvement of your FC as your car racks up the kilometers.

If the Ertiga also has average speed figures in its MID, keep note of it per fill up, since even in pure city driving, not all traffic conditions are the same. Your FC at 16 kph average will be significantly lower than at 20 kph average.

[b_9904]

The Civic, City, Jazz and CR-V all have SOHC engines. Nothing wrong with that. The L15 is a great engine, albeit with little low-end grunt (typical Honda).

Diba mas maganda pag dohc?

Edit: so dohc gives more power, sohc gives low end torque. Generally.

Got it now.

[b_9904]

I'd suggest that you use a fuel consumption app even during break-in period, so you can also measure the improvement of your FC as your car racks up the kilometers.

If the Ertiga also has average speed figures in its MID, keep note of it per fill up, since even in pure city driving, not all traffic conditions are the same. Your FC at 16 kph average will be significantly lower than at 20 kph average.

We do not have ave speed with the GL mt variant. Dunno sa glx.

Wonder how.the avanza fares with this

[istan]

My average speed is only 12 - 14kph. :/
Yan ang full on city drive. Crawling edsa traffic.

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My average speed is only 12 - 14kph. :/
Yan ang full on city drive. Crawling edsa traffic.

[ronw123w124]

Sino ba magpipilit ng premium pricing ng honda? Is it honda philippines? O yung pagimport pa lang from other countries mahal na?
Unfortunately ang daming fanboys ng honda. Na pag bibili ng sasakyan honda lang titignan

Aaminin ko once upon a time Honda fanboy din ako pero nawalan ako ng gana sa Honda when they introduced the Civic ES to replace the EK. Yung EK hindi kaya tapatan ng competitors nya during its time, yung ES naman walang binatbat sa Altis na kasabayan nun.

[b_9904]

I'd suggest that you use a fuel consumption app even during break-in period, so you can also measure the improvement of your FC as your car racks up the kilometers.

If the Ertiga also has average speed figures in its MID, keep note of it per fill up, since even in pure city driving, not all traffic conditions are the same. Your FC at 16 kph average will be significantly lower than at 20 kph average.

Will use mycar app.

What do you use?

[jut703]

Diba mas maganda pag dohc?

Not necessarily. In general, DOHCs are favored because they're more versatile, and are easier to implement variable valve timing with. However, one advantage of SOHC engines is that they are simpler and lighter, and have more torque.

The latter is probably why Honda uses them - since they design their engines to be high-revvers, a SOHC setup means the engine still has enough useable torque at low revs even if much of the power is in the higher end of the rev range. Honda has been using SOHC for its mass market cars since the 90s with the D-series (Civic) and F-series (Accord) engines so they've had a lot of practice maximizing SOHC setups.

[jut703]

Will use mycar app.

What do you use?

I use aCar for Android, and Road Trip for iOS.

[jut703]

My average speed is only 12 - 14kph. :/
Yan ang full on city drive. Crawling edsa traffic.

14 kph average is about right if you traverse EDSA during rush hours. That's heavy traffic for you on a daily basis. Your FC will naturally suffer - even the most efficient cars get 0 km/L when stuck in traffic.

[kimbon]

ala boxing ang exchanging thoughts between jut & b_9904 last night buti na lang back to normal na now. may I give my decision if you guys don't mind my saying so. With all due respect to b_9904, jut wins based on his reasoning & data given. sports lang tayo ah. Bro jut, pa cheese burger ka naman... oops sa spiral sofitel na lang kaya mas tipid pa dun, Bwahaha

[jut703]

Angel's Burger bro para tig isa tayo sa buy 1 take 1 [emoji106]