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    Looks promising. I hope it has a much better ride than the Avanza. If Honda tunes it to accommodate passengers and cargo, maybe a long shot.

    It's only a few millimetres shorter than the Innova, but since it has a unibody chassis, interior space maybe at par. I'm attracted to it because of the promise of it being more car-like. The CVT option is a winner.

    I wish they make the 1500 diesel available here. That, and a sub-1M price tag on the top of the line. This will truly be a huge threat to the mini MPV market.

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    Let it roll in!


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    Does anyone know what honda dealership already has a display of this in their showroom?

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    Wow medyo nahuli lang ito would have get this instead of City.

    Bought city last January and I'm pretty satisfied with it except for 5 lang ang nasasakay.

    Perfect sana ito for my family 1 kid, titas and lolas

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    Wow medyo nahuli lang ito would have get this instead of City.

    Bought city last January and I'm pretty satisfied with it except for 5 lang ang nasasakay.

    Perfect sana ito for my family 1 kid, titas and lolas

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    Car purchases are never completely objective affairs. Much still has to do with perception. This is what keeps Honda relevant, and what keeps Kia/Mazda/Chevrolet second-stringers.

    A lot of forumers here bash people who just go for tried and tested brands with good perception, but in reality, that's what people do when they're in unfamiliar territory - go with what's tried and tested.

    I'm sure if I asked people who knew nothing about computers to buy a hard drive, they'll stick with Seagate and Western Digital even if other brands like Samsung are just as good (if not better) while having lower price points. Likewise, if you asked someone to choose between a Canon kit lens and a Tamron 17-50 f/2.8, most who know nothing will choose the Canon.

    It's easy to say, "so why don't they take time to research?" Simple answer is that they're not interested.

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    I've seen the September to December 2014 sales kasi of all cars here. In terms of numbers, it's Toyota with almost all variants selling well, Mitsu with the Montero, and Ford with the Ecosport & Ranger.

    So we can safely say they are the true top 3. For Honda to still maintain such a status quo is we have to determine where it's coming from? Is it from those loud mufflers sporting SiRs and Vtecs in the streets. Is it from the 1st and 2nd CRV generation who we can't deny dominated the SUV market of those days. But those days are like almost a decade ago.


    What we should ask is the gen Z or Y or X or whatever we call now the yuppie generation. For all we know, ang view Nila sa Honda is like Suzuki. Motorcycles that also sell cars.

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    Gen Y ako.

    I still think Hondas are reliable, with sweet-sounding, high revving engines. I also think that they have lost their value-for-money over the years. I'm in the market for a compact but I didn't even consider the FB bec its 1.8V MT costs 100k more than an Altis G even if the latter has more features and space. But I would've liked it because of its wonderful engine and handling.
    Last edited by jut703; April 28th, 2015 at 12:26 AM.

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    Problem with honda is their pricing. Though they offer overall better products, there are a lot more options out there which are good enough that consumers are more price sensitive.

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    Honda obviously isn't after volume alone. Their current pricing gives them much better unit margins than their competitors. Total profitability is most probably good despite lower sales.

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    Quote Originally Posted by minicarph View Post
    For Honda to still maintain such a status quo is we have to determine where it's coming from?
    Brand perception and:

    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Honda obviously isn't after volume alone. Their current pricing gives them much better unit margins than their competitors. Total profitability is most probably good despite lower sales.
    If you sell at a premium and make more margin on your cars... even if you sell fewer cars, you are still good.

    As an example: Mitsubishi dealers sell a crapload of Mirages, but their unit margins on these small cars are horrible. Somewhere in the 4% range... or even lower. Without financing and customers coming back for PMS, they'd be in the red on each car sold. (the dealers that is. The Distributor/manufacturer will still be okay at lower margins... they've got the volume)

    Honda is seeing everyone else play the high volume / low margin / financing promo game... and they're having nothing of it. They're selling on brand image and charging more, and people are still buying.

    They may have lost some of the technological edge, but I'd put their new 1.5 CVT up against any other engine in the class in terms of performance and fuel economy... it's a really great combination. But smart money is still on the 1.5 MT, in terms of long-term ownership.

    Ang pagbalik ng comeback...

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    Quote Originally Posted by niky View Post
    Brand perception and:



    If you sell at a premium and make more margin on your cars... even if you sell fewer cars, you are still good.

    As an example: Mitsubishi dealers sell a crapload of Mirages, but their unit margins on these small cars are horrible. Somewhere in the 4% range... or even lower. Without financing and customers coming back for PMS, they'd be in the red on each car sold. (the dealers that is. The Distributor/manufacturer will still be okay at lower margins... they've got the volume)

    Honda is seeing everyone else play the high volume / low margin / financing promo game... and they're having nothing of it. They're selling on brand image and charging more, and people are still buying.

    They may have lost some of the technological edge, but I'd put their new 1.5 CVT up against any other engine in the class in terms of performance and fuel economy... it's a really great combination. But smart money is still on the 1.5 MT, in terms of long-term ownership.
    Looking good there Niky!


    Actually it looks really nice from this angle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sientobente View Post
    Looking good there Niky!


    Actually it looks really nice from this angle.
    ,,, looks like a jazz on steroids..

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    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    ,,, looks like a jazz on steroids..
    Technically, it's a Brio on steroids.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jut703 View Post
    Honda obviously isn't after volume alone. Their current pricing gives them much better unit margins than their competitors. Total profitability is most probably good despite lower sales.
    * 1.5 RS Navi CVT - P967,000

    * 1.5 V CVT - P877,000

    * 1.5 E MT - P807,000

    You need to add P20,000 if you want the White Orchid Pearl paint job for the range-topping RS variant. - Topgear.ph

    Innova pa rin ako...

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    Between the avanza G AT and mobilio V AT, i would get the mobilio in a heartbeat. This has the edge in space and looks department. Both are evenly priced at 877k do i dont know why people are saying that the mobilio is priced higher than its competition.

    I predict this car will sell considerably well and will signal honda's climb to The top again. If they price the HRV right, (which i dont think they will) then it will also become another bestseller.

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    Between the avanza G AT and mobilio V AT, i would get the mobilio in a heartbeat. This has the edge in space and looks department. Both are evenly priced at 877k do i dont know why people are saying that the mobilio is priced higher than its competition.

    I predict this car will sell considerably well and will signal honda's climb to The top again. If they price the HRV right, (which i dont think they will) then it will also become another bestseller.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdude View Post
    Between the avanza G AT and mobilio V AT, i would get the mobilio in a heartbeat. This has the edge in space and looks department. Both are evenly priced at 877k do i dont know why people are saying that the mobilio is priced higher than its competition.

    I predict this car will sell considerably well and will signal honda's climb to The top again. If they price the HRV right, (which i dont think they will) then it will also become another bestseller.

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    Between the avanza G AT and mobilio V AT, i would get the mobilio in a heartbeat. This has the edge in space and looks department. Both are evenly priced at 877k do i dont know why people are saying that the mobilio is priced higher than its competition.

    I predict this car will sell considerably well and will signal honda's climb to The top again. If they price the HRV right, (which i dont think they will) then it will also become another bestseller.
    Yes, the Mobilio is pitted squarely against the Avanza 1.5 G, but the bulk of the sales of the Avanza is mostly made up of the 1.3 E and J variants and most people I know who looks at the 1.5 G almost always ends up with an Innova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tylerdude View Post
    Between the avanza G AT and mobilio V AT, i would get the mobilio in a heartbeat. This has the edge in space and looks department. Both are evenly priced at 877k do i dont know why people are saying that the mobilio is priced higher than its competition.

    I predict this car will sell considerably well and will signal honda's climb to The top again. If they price the HRV right, (which i dont think they will) then it will also become another bestseller.

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    Between the avanza G AT and mobilio V AT, i would get the mobilio in a heartbeat. This has the edge in space and looks department. Both are evenly priced at 877k do i dont know why people are saying that the mobilio is priced higher than its competition.

    I predict this car will sell considerably well and will signal honda's climb to The top again. If they price the HRV right, (which i dont think they will) then it will also become another bestseller.
    Yes, the Mobilio is pitted squarely against the Avanza 1.5 G, but the bulk of the sales of the Avanza is mostly made up of the 1.3 E and J variants and most people I know who looks at the 1.5 G almost always ends up with an Innova.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ronw123w124 View Post
    Yes, the Mobilio is pitted squarely against the Avanza 1.5 G, but the bulk of the sales of the Avanza is mostly made up of the 1.3 E and J variants and most people I know who looks at the 1.5 G almost always ends up with an Innova.
    Same scenario with the Brio, it is a well spec'd vehicle beyond its class, but the market is looking elsewhere say Eon or Wigo or Mirage or Vios.
    You may say that it is unfair because the price gap and quality between a wigo/eon and the brio is huge, but to a common buyer why get the more expensive if the cheaper one serves its purpose.

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    Made in india? I dont like the dashboard. It looks ugly

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tj_abs View Post
    Made in india? I dont like the dashboard. It looks ugly
    Brio like.

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