That's why honda is now giving you the option to get mugen or hfp installation. Re: moving on, I hope honda maintains the civic spirit. I wouldn't want it to be included in the d people's cars list. Look what happened to toyota, their market demographics are now in the older generation, hence they created a new company scion just to cater the younger generation.
Honda accord can accomodate the older generation, there's acura tl and rlx to cater these demographics.



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