Very Long U-Turn Intervals

**torque2006** · December 20th, 2006 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by oldblue

yun sa harap ng PSBA (pag galing ka sa katipunan to aurora to marikina), dyan nyo makikita kung gano kapalpak mga U-turning drivers. there are 2 u-turn slots there but majority of the cars are forcing their way on the first one. ang luwag-luwag nun pangalawa.

d ko alam kung parang luge sila kung dun sila sa susunod na u-turn slot na obviously mga 30-50 meters away lang o trip nila talaga yun adventure.

and take note, mga galing Ateneo pa iba sa mga ito ...

ateneans peace hehehe

The first U-turn slot in the Aurora Blvd-Katipunan Junction was designed for small cars only (take a look at the concrete blocks on the other side, very narrow). The buses, jeepneys (with humongous steering ratios) and those who want to take the Katipunan southbound route are supposed to use the second U-turn slot.

**IMm29** · December 20th, 2006 10:16 AM

Originally Posted by Horsepower

U-Turn slots are the best option we have for now compared to non-moving bumper-to-bumper traffic of the past. Of course, the best are still tunnels and underpasses but that's kinda expensive. IMO, Bayani Fernando is a genius in implementing this traffic solution. It's far from perfect but it works. All we have to do is cooperate and work with the system to make it better.

The idea is good. The implementation and enforcement is another story. But for the idea and the political will to make it happen, hats off to BF.

**oldblue** · December 20th, 2006 03:32 PM

meron mga bagong bwisit ngaun, mga pasahero na nag-aabang sa U-turn slots. sila nga dahilan kumbakit nagkaron ng U-turn slots, tapos dun naman sila pupwesto ngaun. kung pwede lang tadtarin ng airsoft gun yun mga yun para mapahiya.

parang yun mga flyovers, halos billion ang naubos to benefit both parties, ang ginagawa naman eh pumupwesto sa foot ng flyover at dun gusto sumakay. mga sira-ulo!

**impulzz** · December 20th, 2006 03:55 PM

MMDA in ortigas edsa had an experiment a few day ago, NO LEFT TURN TO EDSA coming from both sides of ortigas, kelangan kung galing ka greenhills tawid ka muna edsa to Galleria then u-turn sa ilalim ng flyover, sa dami ng kita nila sa jeep at bus dun on both sides, hinid nila mapaalis ang mga illegal terminal dun so todo trapik... ganun din kung galing ka ortigas center...now its back to left turn edsa. tinakpan na ng karton yung no left sign...

**caloyski5** · December 20th, 2006 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by bardigones

actually works to decongest traffic along c-5 in libis.

true. it also avoids extreme swerving. the u turn before eastwood to go to the "backdoor" way of eastwood if youre on makati bound side is a big no-no, imho

**squala** · December 21st, 2006 01:05 AM

I understand that U-turn slots must be positioned properly to decongest traffic. But what bothers me here is the fact that you have to drive some considerable distance to get to a slot and the same length going back.

Let me put it this way. In Katipunan, say you ate at Shakey's and need to go to Boni Serrano Ave. Some will do the shortcut and counterflow, yes. But for those law-abiding others, they will need to go all the way to the slot underneath the Katipunan flyover, which is a bit over 1 km. That's more than 2 kms. already if you count the return route. Like c'mon, gasoline isn't cheap, and these widely spaced U-turns are not helping us save fuel half the time. It may prove better for traffic at peak hours, but in all other scenarios, they are no good.

**afrasay** · December 21st, 2006 02:01 AM

Originally Posted by oldblue

yun sa harap ng PSBA (pag galing ka sa katipunan to aurora to marikina), dyan nyo makikita kung gano kapalpak mga U-turning drivers. there are 2 u-turn slots there but majority of the cars are forcing their way on the first one. ang luwag-luwag nun pangalawa.

d ko alam kung parang luge sila kung dun sila sa susunod na u-turn slot na obviously mga 30-50 meters away lang o trip nila talaga yun adventure.

and take note, mga galing Ateneo pa iba sa mga ito ...

ateneans peace hehehe

I think the first u -turn slots is for light vehicle and the second is for long vehicles such as trucks and trailers.

**afrasay** · December 21st, 2006 02:06 AM

Originally Posted by oldblue

meron mga bagong bwisit ngaun, mga pasahero na nag-aabang sa U-turn slots. sila nga dahilan kumbakit nagkaron ng U-turn slots, tapos dun naman sila pupwesto ngaun. kung pwede lang tadtarin ng airsoft gun yun mga yun para mapahiya.

parang yun mga flyovers, halos billion ang naubos to benefit both parties, ang ginagawa naman eh pumupwesto sa foot ng flyover at dun gusto sumakay. mga sira-ulo!

Hehehe...pansin ko yan sa robinson's east and sta. lucia u-turns. dun mismo sa concrete barrier nag aabang ng dyip.

**IMm29** · December 21st, 2006 08:54 AM

Originally Posted by afrasay

Hehehe...pansin ko yan sa robinson's east and sta. lucia u-turns. dun mismo sa concrete barrier nag aabang ng dyip.

yan ang hirap sa PUVs natin. well dahil na nga rin sa mga sumasakay. this is something BF's enforcement team should work on. di rin pwedeng excuse ang "marami kasi sila, hindi namin kaya." sayang na naman ang nasimulan na.

**niky** · December 21st, 2006 01:56 PM

The problem is... what is for the greater good?

The U-Turn slots are a menace. It has never worked properly on C5, especially in the Libis area. I'm just waiting for them to close the U-Turn slot near Eastwood, to complete the job. Why the hell do you need a U-Turn slot there, when there's a perfectly fine one near Jollibee? Actually, why do you need one near Jollibee?

I admit, it'd be a small inconvenience to travel an extra two kilometers and back to get to Eastwood from Cubao... but that's 4 kilometers in easy flowing traffic... maybe 10-20 pesos for you or me. But when we had all those U-Turns? That caused terrible congestion... an extra 10-20 pesos for everyone using the area.

What boggles the mind is, they removed one intersection, which serviced the area perfectly well, and replaced it with six U-turn slots, which caused traffic, congestion, lane-jumping, accidents, U-Turn counterflow (they should post one enforcer there 24-7... sobrang laki-kita nila doon kung 24 hour enforcement...) and forced establishments to re-route their exits and entrances to adapt (Shopwise moved theirs because the U-turn right beside it was causing accidents and traffic).

And... oh, by the way... have any of you tried walking across C-5 now? because of the U-turns (which cause people to pass on the right, and blocks their view of pedestrians at those points) and lack of intersections, it's very dangerous.

The only sane place to place U-turns, really, is under overpasses and at intersections... Period.

Look at other ASEAN countries... you have to drive an extra few kilometers to get to your U-turn slot, but at least you don't have to play dodgeball the whole way...