Very Long U-Turn Intervals

[torque2006]

yun sa harap ng PSBA (pag galing ka sa katipunan to aurora to marikina), dyan nyo makikita kung gano kapalpak mga U-turning drivers. there are 2 u-turn slots there but majority of the cars are forcing their way on the first one. ang luwag-luwag nun pangalawa.

d ko alam kung parang luge sila kung dun sila sa susunod na u-turn slot na obviously mga 30-50 meters away lang o trip nila talaga yun adventure.


and take note, mga galing Ateneo pa iba sa mga ito ...



ateneans peace hehehe

The first U-turn slot in the Aurora Blvd-Katipunan Junction was designed for small cars only (take a look at the concrete blocks on the other side, very narrow). The buses, jeepneys (with humongous steering ratios) and those who want to take the Katipunan southbound route are supposed to use the second U-turn slot.

[IMm29]

U-Turn slots are the best option we have for now compared to non-moving bumper-to-bumper traffic of the past. Of course, the best are still tunnels and underpasses but that's kinda expensive. IMO, Bayani Fernando is a genius in implementing this traffic solution. It's far from perfect but it works. All we have to do is cooperate and work with the system to make it better.

The idea is good. The implementation and enforcement is another story. But for the idea and the political will to make it happen, hats off to BF.

[oldblue]

meron mga bagong bwisit ngaun, mga pasahero na nag-aabang sa U-turn slots. sila nga dahilan kumbakit nagkaron ng U-turn slots, tapos dun naman sila pupwesto ngaun. kung pwede lang tadtarin ng airsoft gun yun mga yun para mapahiya.

parang yun mga flyovers, halos billion ang naubos to benefit both parties, ang ginagawa naman eh pumupwesto sa foot ng flyover at dun gusto sumakay. mga sira-ulo!

[impulzz]

MMDA in ortigas edsa had an experiment a few day ago, NO LEFT TURN TO EDSA coming from both sides of ortigas, kelangan kung galing ka greenhills tawid ka muna edsa to Galleria then u-turn sa ilalim ng flyover, sa dami ng kita nila sa jeep at bus dun on both sides, hinid nila mapaalis ang mga illegal terminal dun so todo trapik... ganun din kung galing ka ortigas center...now its back to left turn edsa. tinakpan na ng karton yung no left sign...

[caloyski5]

actually works to decongest traffic along c-5 in libis.

true. it also avoids extreme swerving. the u turn before eastwood to go to the "backdoor" way of eastwood if youre on makati bound side is a big no-no, imho

[squala]

I understand that U-turn slots must be positioned properly to decongest traffic. But what bothers me here is the fact that you have to drive some considerable distance to get to a slot and the same length going back.

Let me put it this way. In Katipunan, say you ate at Shakey's and need to go to Boni Serrano Ave. Some will do the shortcut and counterflow, yes. But for those law-abiding others, they will need to go all the way to the slot underneath the Katipunan flyover, which is a bit over 1 km. That's more than 2 kms. already if you count the return route. Like c'mon, gasoline isn't cheap, and these widely spaced U-turns are not helping us save fuel half the time. It may prove better for traffic at peak hours, but in all other scenarios, they are no good.

[afrasay]

yun sa harap ng PSBA (pag galing ka sa katipunan to aurora to marikina), dyan nyo makikita kung gano kapalpak mga U-turning drivers. there are 2 u-turn slots there but majority of the cars are forcing their way on the first one. ang luwag-luwag nun pangalawa.

d ko alam kung parang luge sila kung dun sila sa susunod na u-turn slot na obviously mga 30-50 meters away lang o trip nila talaga yun adventure.


and take note, mga galing Ateneo pa iba sa mga ito ...



ateneans peace hehehe

I think the first u -turn slots is for light vehicle and the second is for long vehicles such as trucks and trailers.

[afrasay]

meron mga bagong bwisit ngaun, mga pasahero na nag-aabang sa U-turn slots. sila nga dahilan kumbakit nagkaron ng U-turn slots, tapos dun naman sila pupwesto ngaun. kung pwede lang tadtarin ng airsoft gun yun mga yun para mapahiya.

parang yun mga flyovers, halos billion ang naubos to benefit both parties, ang ginagawa naman eh pumupwesto sa foot ng flyover at dun gusto sumakay. mga sira-ulo!

Hehehe...pansin ko yan sa robinson's east and sta. lucia u-turns. dun mismo sa concrete barrier nag aabang ng dyip.

[IMm29]

Hehehe...pansin ko yan sa robinson's east and sta. lucia u-turns. dun mismo sa concrete barrier nag aabang ng dyip.

yan ang hirap sa PUVs natin. well dahil na nga rin sa mga sumasakay. this is something BF's enforcement team should work on. di rin pwedeng excuse ang "marami kasi sila, hindi namin kaya." sayang na naman ang nasimulan na.

[niky]

The problem is... what is for the greater good?

The U-Turn slots are a menace. It has never worked properly on C5, especially in the Libis area. I'm just waiting for them to close the U-Turn slot near Eastwood, to complete the job. Why the hell do you need a U-Turn slot there, when there's a perfectly fine one near Jollibee? Actually, why do you need one near Jollibee?

I admit, it'd be a small inconvenience to travel an extra two kilometers and back to get to Eastwood from Cubao... but that's 4 kilometers in easy flowing traffic... maybe 10-20 pesos for you or me. But when we had all those U-Turns? That caused terrible congestion... an extra 10-20 pesos for everyone using the area.

What boggles the mind is, they removed one intersection, which serviced the area perfectly well, and replaced it with six U-turn slots, which caused traffic, congestion, lane-jumping, accidents, U-Turn counterflow (they should post one enforcer there 24-7... sobrang laki-kita nila doon kung 24 hour enforcement...) and forced establishments to re-route their exits and entrances to adapt (Shopwise moved theirs because the U-turn right beside it was causing accidents and traffic).

And... oh, by the way... have any of you tried walking across C-5 now? because of the U-turns (which cause people to pass on the right, and blocks their view of pedestrians at those points) and lack of intersections, it's very dangerous.

The only sane place to place U-turns, really, is under overpasses and at intersections... Period.

Look at other ASEAN countries... you have to drive an extra few kilometers to get to your U-turn slot, but at least you don't have to play dodgeball the whole way...

[mbeige]

The problem is... what is for the greater good?

The U-Turn slots are a menace. It has never worked properly on C5, especially in the Libis area. I'm just waiting for them to close the U-Turn slot near Eastwood, to complete the job. Why the hell do you need a U-Turn slot there, when there's a perfectly fine one near Jollibee? Actually, why do you need one near Jollibee?

I admit, it'd be a small inconvenience to travel an extra two kilometers and back to get to Eastwood from Cubao... but that's 4 kilometers in easy flowing traffic... maybe 10-20 pesos for you or me. But when we had all those U-Turns? That caused terrible congestion... an extra 10-20 pesos for everyone using the area.

What boggles the mind is, they removed one intersection, which serviced the area perfectly well, and replaced it with six U-turn slots, which caused traffic, congestion, lane-jumping, accidents, U-Turn counterflow (they should post one enforcer there 24-7... sobrang laki-kita nila doon kung 24 hour enforcement...) and forced establishments to re-route their exits and entrances to adapt (Shopwise moved theirs because the U-turn right beside it was causing accidents and traffic).

And... oh, by the way... have any of you tried walking across C-5 now? because of the U-turns (which cause people to pass on the right, and blocks their view of pedestrians at those points) and lack of intersections, it's very dangerous.

The only sane place to place U-turns, really, is under overpasses and at intersections... Period.

Look at other ASEAN countries... you have to drive an extra few kilometers to get to your U-turn slot, but at least you don't have to play dodgeball the whole way...

I feel ya man, I feel ya...

What more, pedestrians have to dodge the cars when they cross. Why? Because there are no more crosswalks that stop the flow of traffic, and you should either find an overpass or just risk your life!

[niky]

I feel ya man, I feel ya...

What more, pedestrians have to dodge the cars when they cross. Why? Because there are no more crosswalks that stop the flow of traffic, and you should either find an overpass or just risk your life!

Hehe... big problem there... there are no pedestrian overpasses in the Libis and Pasig areas... 2 kilometers to the nearest overpass (which is about the only truly safe place to cross at if you can't run fast) is a long walk.

Galing ng MMDA, ano? That's why, IMHO, it's better if they just remove the U-turns and return the intersections.

[quiksie]

pinakaworst na u turn slots ay ang katipunan ave. (school area). Walang kwenta mga drivers ng taga ateneo at taga miriam! Sa exit ipipilit makacross sa malapit na u-turn slot. Tuloy humahaba ang traffic in both directions

[oldblue]

ako ok naman sakin sir *niky yun mga U-turn slots. medyo may pagka-caveman talaga sa driving, survival of the fittest. pero mas acceptable na'to kaysa bumper to bumper traffic.

pumapalpak lang ang U-turn slot basta may PUV or hanging cars like those in Ateneo, LSGH and other schools and of course, malls.

napunta na ba kayo sa Marikina? grabe tindi duon wala na ata pinapasweldo traffic enforcers sila BF and wife eh. ang ganda ng daloy ng traffic dun sa bottleneck bridge nila

[IMm29]

I think BF should go to and survey all the thoroughfares he's implemented his U-turn slots at during rush hour traffic without a police escort in a private car to see which really work, and which don't and why they do or don't, and then come up with ideas how to make them work.

I was on C5 southbound last night at the Julia Vargas area, and I thought it would be a crawl going toward Makati. Di pala. All lanes just wanted to make a U-turn. And the FX in front of me at the rightmost lane beat everyone to it by turning at the last moment, nearly having me bulldoze him. Argh!

Although U-turn slots do have their merits, they too have their limitations. Their size, for example, which is just good for 1 car at a time to move freely, and their placement, since a lot of Philippine roads aren't really so wide. Add up those drivers, both private and public, who can't wait their turn, and they become really bad ideas. Apparently, for them to work properly, there has to be an enforcer with balls of steel stationed at each slot to catch these violators.

[squala]

Well, one thing's for sure in the U-turn in Ford Libis - it's not working. As was mentioned, affected vehicles tend to cheat and make a U-turn at the slot meant for the other direction, and I myself understand why. They would otherwise waste fuel, time and effort to turn under the C5-Katipunan flyover which is quite distant.

Also, the way many motorists use the U-turns is wrong. Rather than line up in one lane, they'll take the second, third, even the fourth lane to make the turn just so they get ahead. In other countries, there is strictly only one lane for U-turning vehicles.

[niky]

Well, one thing's for sure in the U-turn in Ford Libis - it's not working. As was mentioned, affected vehicles tend to cheat and make a U-turn at the slot meant for the other direction, and I myself understand why. They would otherwise waste fuel, time and effort to turn under the C5-Katipunan flyover which is quite distant.

Also, the way many motorists use the U-turns is wrong. Rather than line up in one lane, they'll take the second, third, even the fourth lane to make the turn just so they get ahead. In other countries, there is strictly only one lane for U-turning vehicles.

Which is ironic (RE: Ford Libis), considering the Overpass U-Turn is just another half-kilometer away.

On a brighter note... when I passed there the other night, it seems they finally wised up and closed the damn U-Turn completely. Now, all that's left is to remove the U-Turn at Jollibee and turn that back into an intersection, so people have a place to cross, too.

[squala]

Actually, the U-turn slot in Ford/BMW Libis has already been reopened. Looks like many motorists complained.

[cocoy]

its the filipino way.. take the shortest route possible..... complain when its a longer route......

[IMm29]

Now, all that's left is to remove the U-Turn at Jollibee and turn that back into an intersection, so people have a place to cross, too.

+1. Wish they did at that intersection.