Very Long U-Turn Intervals

[niky]

Just noticed it a few days ago.

Bwisit. Again we have trains of cars U-turning and merging four lanes in just twenty meters... grabe nanaman yung traffic!

It boggles the mind how the MMDA can compromise the safety and travel time of thousands of motorists just for the convenience of a few hundred.

[istan]

Its a big big street. I'm wondering why they had to close off that intersection. Ok naman lagyan ng stop light jan.

[impulzz]

Actually, the U-turn slot in Ford/BMW Libis has already been reopened. Looks like many motorists complained.

yep, it's been reopened and trafic has worsened in both directions. bumalik na rin yung mga ogags mag maneho from eastwood, deretso sa gitna ng e.rod paglabas ng eastwood. ang magtatayo na sila ng ped-overpass, right in front of eastwood where the jeepneys usually make an illegal terminal.

the two u-turn slots in front of ford must be closed, specially the 2nd one drivers going into eastwood via the side street simply just dart into oncoming traffic then jeeps again block the side street, causing vehicles to zigzag each other.

[vinj]

Yep, rush hour traffic just got worse in the area once more.

Whatta no-brained move to open it up again since there is a proper u-turn just down the road, under the flyover and motorist were already learning how to use it without forcing a u-turn on the wrong slot.

[impulzz]

just came from libis, heavy traffic all the way from ortigas to eastwood,

cause: 3 vehicle pile-up in front of eastwood, a balck b12 sentra, taxi, and adventure. tapos dun pa din mga jeep walang paki alam at nakaharang pa din. naging 2 lanes na lang yung daan, tapos yung pinaka malapit sa island medyo masikip dahil sa banggaan.

[bbt]

i remember seeing something on tv about u turn slots... the concept daw is to keep the flow of traffic constant, kahit na medyo mabagal... compared to stop lights na mas mabilis nga pero patigil-tigil naman, and nagkaka-problema pa minsan kapag high volume of traffic and cars are still in the middle of the intersection when the lights change. i think it was BF himself who was being interviewed about this... makes sense to me

[low_profile2]

saka sana me mga visible signs lalo na sa gabi..delikado sa mga motorist.

[istan]

i remember seeing something on tv about u turn slots... the concept daw is to keep the flow of traffic constant, kahit na medyo mabagal... compared to stop lights na mas mabilis nga pero patigil-tigil naman, and nagkaka-problema pa minsan kapag high volume of traffic and cars are still in the middle of the intersection when the lights change. i think it was BF himself who was being interviewed about this... makes sense to me

Yeah but can't they remove that jeep terminal? Make those jeep wait inside eastwood, ikot sila sa rotonda. Ok nga sana U-turn slots nila, but kung aayusin naman sana nila. Ilahat na nila. (ie. Alisin ang terminal jan at ipasok sa daan na di nakakasagabal)

I don't know why..but usually, PUV/PUBs gravitate towards U-turn slots. Kung saan may U-turn slot, dun sila hihinto making a choke point "chokier"

Dito sa amin, sa taft, sinisigawan ko lahat ng jeep na nakasagabal sa daan na tumabi. 2 lanes na nga ang daan, gusto pang huminto at magantay ng pasahero on the only lane left for us to move. Hataw naman di ba... 1 Lane na nga for them to wait...tapus yun isa ng jeep, oovertake kunwari, tapus hihinto sa tabi nya...mag hihintay rin.

Pag ako naging Mayor dito sa amin. Aalisin ko illegal terminal, bawal hinto sa maling lugar ng mga jeep, FINE P500. Hanggang sa 3rd violation. After that 3 months suspension. In my view, ang mga di marunong sumunod sa batas kalye, humanap na lang ng ibang trabaho.

[bbt]

true, true. hindi lang naman sa u-turn slot problema ang mga illegal jeepney (and tricycle, bus, taxi) terminals. dapat talaga alisin ang lahat ng mga yan sa kalsada

[squala]

If the reopening proves to create more clogging, then the slot should be transferred, but not reclosed such that we have to go all the way under the far far flyover.

[vinj]

i remember seeing something on tv about u turn slots... the concept daw is to keep the flow of traffic constant, kahit na medyo mabagal... compared to stop lights na mas mabilis nga pero patigil-tigil naman, and nagkaka-problema pa minsan kapag high volume of traffic and cars are still in the middle of the intersection when the lights change. i think it was BF himself who was being interviewed about this... makes sense to me

There is sense to the concept; the problem is a lot of that sense is lost in the implementation due to (amongst some):
- poor slot placement (too near the intersection promtin drastic swerving measures)
- lack of space
- lack of proper lighting and reflectors (i always hoped they would put those high spot lights on the slot areas)
- the traffic enforcers don't enforce anything outside of "swerving" of private motorists and color coding (while PUVs are free to obstruct the road)
- drivers don't know how to make the u-turn properly and don't give way

[impulzz]

the problem with the libis u-turn slot is its too near to the eastwood exit. like vinj said : - poor slot placement (too near the intersection promtin drastic swerving measures) drivers from eastwoods go straight to the middle of a lane road.

[niky]

+++++ on this!

U-turn slots would not be a problem if they weren't so close to the places people want to go.

It is very (and let me repeat this) very dangerous to merge four lanes in less than 100 meters, because free-flowing traffic that gets up to 80 km/h is barrelling down on you in that area.

That's my peeve, actually. Did Bayani Fernando actually do a traffic-flow analysis for these U-Turn slots? Did they consider the possibility of accidents caused by having cement barriers (without lights or reflectors) sitting in the two lanes which are supposedly "overtaking" or "fast" lanes?

U turns work in other countries because they're spaced at the proper interval, properly marked, with islands wide enough to allow the U-turning vehicle to turn within the designated radius.

Actually, we already have U-turns like that... at the overpasses. So why do we need lots of temporary, unsafe, unmarked and chaotic U-turns?

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And it still doesn't answer my biggest peeve. Kawawa ang mga pedestrians! There are no pedestrian overpasses or lighted lanes for them to cross at! That's why I still think they should get rid of all of these U-Turns and return the intersection. This would make it safer for pedestrians... and us drivers who have to dodge madly swerving traffic every five hundred meters.