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    #1161
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    in my simplistic view,
    what other information will soco glean, that has not yet been gleaned?
    witness testimonies and a few pictures are all that are needed...

    the scene is causing so much discomfort to the motorists.
    They need to follow protocol.
    if they don't any evidence for the case filed against the SUV can easily be thrown out by the judge lalo na kung magaling lawyer nung SUV.

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    #1162
    Quote Originally Posted by dr. d View Post
    in my simplistic view,
    what other information will soco glean, that has not yet been gleaned?
    witness testimonies and a few pictures are all that are needed...

    the scene is causing so much discomfort to the motorists.
    The rules states that no crime scene (assumed kapag may namatay, kaya nga arestado agad driver, may kasalanan man or wala) can be disturbed unless the criminal investigation (which includes the SOCO) has declared it deemed so.

    Sometimes, not all vehicular accidents are just accidents kasi or are purely accidents if you know what I mean. That's why the rules and regulations of the PNP mandates it so. The PNP's Field Manual on Investigation of Crimes of Violence and Other Crimes will show the steps. That's what ale828 means by following protocol

    Mukhang ang dapat na tanong dyan eh bakit ang tagal dumating ng PNP traffic group and Soco team if indeed required pa.

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    #1163
    May update sa identity ng drivers of SUV and tanker? Or may nag send ng feelers at mag aaregluhan na naman.

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    #1164
    Quote Originally Posted by Ry_Tower View Post

    Mukhang ang dapat na tanong dyan eh bakit ang tagal dumating ng PNP traffic group and Soco team if indeed required pa.
    heh heh heh.
    "na-trapik kasi", dahil sa trapik na na-generate nang aksidente.

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    #1165
    Lawyer from Romulo Mabanta Law firm killed at Skyway


    WHAT: Self Accident (FATAL)

    WHEN: On or about 1740H, June 27, 2023. ( Self Accident ), with Fatality and without damaged to Skyway property.

    WHERE: Skyway Elevated Southbound km 10+100 vicinity of Pasay City.

    WHO: Vehicle1- Ducati Multistrada V4 plate number 972 QRH driven by Koga, Ken Bernabe. (Deceased) 37 years old residing at 17 Bogambilya st Tahanan Village Parañaque City, driver licence N03-03-364076.

    How: Initial Investigation conducted shows that the involved motorcycle were traversing southbound km 10+100 at outermost right lane of the said road upon reaching to the said place of incident at km 10+100 accidentally slide his driven motorcycle vered to the right and lost its control due to the road is slippery and hit the concrete barrier. Consequently driver of veh 1 was found dead on the spot at arround 1805H declared by (EMT) Energency Medical Technician Ambulance Team leader Carlo Barsal. after aleged lost of blood due to severe head trauma that cause his Instantaneous death.
    Last edited by Monseratto; June 30th, 2023 at 05:01 PM.

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    #1166
    aquaplaning talaga kelangan isaulo kapag nagmamaneho sa ulan.

    walang kalaban-laban iyong mama. derecho ulo sa base ng guard rail.

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    #1167
    Quote Originally Posted by Monseratto View Post
    Lawyer from Romulo Mabanta Law firm killed at Skyway


    WHAT: Self Accident (FATAL)

    WHEN: On or about 1740H, June 27, 2023. ( Self Accident ), with Fatality and without damaged to Skyway property.

    WHERE: Skyway Elevated Southbound km 10+100 vicinity of Pasay City.

    WHO: Vehicle1- Ducati Multistrada V4 plate number 972 QRH driven by Koga, Ken Bernabe. (Deceased) 37 years old residing at 17 Bogambilya st Tahanan Village Parañaque City, driver licence N03-03-364076.

    How: Initial Investigation conducted shows that the involved motorcycle were traversing southbound km 10+100 at outermost right lane of the said road upon reaching to the said place of incident at km 10+100 accidentally slide his driven motorcycle vered to the right and lost its control due to the road is slippery and hit the concrete barrier. Consequently driver of veh 1 was found dead on the spot at arround 1805H declared by (EMT) Energency Medical Technician Ambulance Team leader Carlo Barsal. after aleged lost of blood due to severe head trauma that cause his Instantaneous death.
    Colleague of a good friend of mine. RIP.

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    #1168
    Heartbreaking lang na for several minutes at several vehicles eh dinaan-daanan lang siya.
    Asar ako sa mga kamote at kung nakita ko barubal sa kalye eh baka tawanan ko lang kung nadulas.
    Eto kita na aksidente talaga pero halos hinayaan lang.
    I mean hindi naman kelangan mag-first aid ka pero yung tumigil man lang at tumawag ng responde.
    Then bantayan hanggang dumating na ang saklolo.


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    #1169
    Eto ba yun he was wearing a white shirt tapos tumama sa concrete barrier body niya? Bakit kaya natanggal helmet. He wasn't even going fast Hydroplane nga.

    Hindi man lang nga tumigil yung may dashcam. Yung mga kamote, autumatic sa kanila to stop pag may motor na naassidente.

    Also, these people with dash cams should NOT be uploading these videos! I hope the dash cam owner gets sued by the family. Napaka disprespectful to upload the final moments of the person. Sa police or family lang yan (IF they want to see it)

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    #1170
    i grieve for the deceased and his loved ones.
    'twas an accident. no one at fault.

    but i must say,
    the english and spelling are terrible!
    ganyan na ba ang mga manunulat ngayon!

    and yes,
    kaunting delicadeza naman, in my opinion.
    don't show such a graphic video.

    OT.
    Last edited by dr. d; June 30th, 2023 at 10:01 PM.

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    #1171
    Quote Originally Posted by _Cathy_ View Post
    Eto ba yun he was wearing a white shirt tapos tumama sa concrete barrier body niya? Bakit kaya natanggal helmet. He wasn't even going fast Hydroplane nga.

    Hindi man lang nga tumigil yung may dashcam. Yung mga kamote, autumatic sa kanila to stop pag may motor na naassidente.

    Also, these people with dash cams should NOT be uploading these videos! I hope the dash cam owner gets sued by the family. Napaka disprespectful to upload the final moments of the person. Sa police or family lang yan (IF they want to see it)
    Heavy motorcycle and medyo big built din si Atty. kaya the momentum was much faster than if it was a scooter and a lean person. Physics isn't on his side on this one.

    Helmets strap are not too strong as compared sa mountain climbing gears kaya natatanggal talaga kapag nasaktuhan yung angle. Mukhang front and under the helmet ang point of impact.

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    #1172
    From another group discussion someone mentioned that the portion of "road" that he slipped on was actually a metal seam but covered in tar.

    It's a bit like what you see in kalayaan-buendia flyover, but they put tar over the metal. Could actually have made things worse because it looks like asphalt, but is actually a lot more slippery.



    As for the helmet he might have been using one of those ratchet types. Easier to put on and remove, but not as secure as D-clips.

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    #1173
    "Suzuki Every vs Toyota Avanza, Bohol"
    posted by /u/aspirebolt in /r/carcrash








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    #1174
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    "Suzuki Every vs Toyota Avanza, Bohol"
    posted by /u/aspirebolt in /r/carcrash







    errr,
    what's the story, po?

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    #1175
    I have no idea, the pics were just posted with no context.

    But considering the angle of the bump, I would assume the Toyota was driving along normally and the Suzuki entered from the side of the road without looking to see if it was clear. (We all know this is a common occurrence in the provinces)

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    #1176
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    I have no idea, the pics were just posted with no context.
    Comment lang, medyo uso yata yung ganyan lately (posting images, videos or sometimes... only part of the video)
    Then leaving the viewer/commenters to speculate
    What their motives are are hard to tell, but I've got a hunch... it sometimes may be to get attention lang?

    Just like yung style ng mga tabloid headlines & clickbait articles on the net (*whispers* like Yahoo News... cough... cough)

    Without context & the possible backstory though, it would reduce us to being "Maritess" lang to comment...

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    #1177
    Quote Originally Posted by Dr.Kamiya View Post
    "Suzuki Every vs Toyota Avanza, Bohol"
    posted by /u/aspirebolt in /r/carcrash







    nag overtake yung innova, nahagip yung kasalubong na suzuki. lagpas sa solid line gulong ng innova. narrow road.

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    #1178
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    nag overtake yung innova, nahagip yung kasalubong na suzuki. lagpas sa solid line gulong ng innova. narrow road.
    Thats an Avanza. Not Innova

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    #1179
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn_duke View Post
    nag overtake yung innova, nahagip yung kasalubong na suzuki. lagpas sa solid line gulong ng innova. narrow road.
    Parehong passenger side ang tama nila so i doubt kung overtake yung scenario.

    Edit. Yung suzuki wrong side totally. My guess... Counterflow sa shoulder yun suzuki. Since narrow kalsada nahagip nung avanza... Tsikot Forums mobile app

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    #1180
    Quote Originally Posted by n_spinner06 View Post
    Parehong passenger side ang tama nila so i doubt kung overtake yung scenario.

    Edit. Yung suzuki wrong side totally. My guess... Counterflow sa shoulder yun suzuki. Since narrow kalsada nahagip nung avanza... Tsikot Forums mobile app
    it's in reddit, but it don't say much, either.

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