Using the shoulder as an overtaking/fast lane

[moe]

wildthing, i urge you to read my first post and succeeding ones. you may create a new thread and rant about those slow vehicles that hog the fast lanes, that is your prerogative. as i stated above, there were 2 lanes open but still he decided to use the exit lane/shoulder. i happened to be on it already and had my signal light on and i was just about to make the curve but still he came fast doing about 120, giving me the highbeam and honking. do you think that's right??? 120? did he exit? no. he just used the lane to overtake the other vehicles. as i said, this posed a very serious threat not only to me but also to the vehicles entering the expressway on the other side. i hope you get the picture. if you want to rant about slow moving vehicles hogging the fast lane, i believe you may do so and there is actually a long thread about that. this thread is different from that. and as i see it, you are justifying the actions of those people who abuse the rules of the road. anyway, that's how i see it. please read all posts THOUROUGHLY to see the whole picture. your last sentence somehow suggests that my concern is not that important to you and that you'd rather rant on something more important. well pardon me, but to me this is a valid concern.

[moe]

one more thing, if the volume of traffic is too big, then we forget all rules and instead use our so called common sense? if there's traffic then we wait patiently until traffic clears, i believe that's the civilized way to do things. if we use our "commonsense" but endanger the lives of others in the process is that ok? if this is your argument then i believe it's also ok to counterflow because the volume of traffic is too great? it's okay to counterflow because there are slow moving vehicles in the fast lane? oh yeah, there are rules against counterflowing but hey, this is a different situation and you gotta use your "commonsense"? i don't know man, pretty twisted if you're to ask me.

[wildthing]

i think it is not the issue of "forget all rules" but rather, this things happen because of the current situation in SLEX...and unfortunately, neither you nor me nor even the authorities can stop these 100% unless the road project is finished.

to site an example...NLEX about 10 years ago have similar congestion problem as SLEX. More so when the road was repaired. During that time, there is no such thing as shoulder or even island...basta matatakbuhan ng sasakyan dadaanan yan.

Nobody cared if it was the right thing to do. Nobody cared about penalties or rules of the road. Nobody cared about the safety of their family on board....

The thing was, after the construction (about 3 years back pa nagsimula) ng NLEX expansion...very minimal na ang violators nun.

I'm afraid your rant will only be a rant until after that SLEX project is finished. I personally think that eventually (as the construction extends further), every driver in the SLEX will start using shoulder as the fast lane.... and this will be a "curse" for every SLEX rider for at least the next 4 years.

As it was earlier said by one of the tsikoteers - "Welcome to the Philippines!!!".


:peace:

[CVT]

You have a point there bro.... I never go to the shoulder lane of SLEX, pero talagang nakakapika ang mababagal na sasakyan sa innermost and middle lanes... Dapat ay hulihin sila ng mga traffic enforcers for obstruction of traffic...

Naalala ko tuloy ang tawag ng iba kong kasama riyan sa service lane ng SLEX..... executive lane raw.....

4303:gun:

[moe]

this thing used to happen even before the road expansion projects. and that is still not an excuse. i always let it slide but when they have the nerve to honk their horn at me and give me the highbeam even when they see that i am about to make the curve towards the exit (and they are not going to exit) then that becomes my business. fast lane hogging is another thing, what i'm pointing out is a different thing. and let me say this again, it happened long before this road widening thing. what's the excuse now?

[moe]

people may use the shoulder as the fastlane all they want, i can't do anything about that, but if they have the nerve to blast their horns at me and give me the high beam then that's just plain stupid and rude specially when i;m about to exit. a better idea would be for them to ram their vehicles into the back of the slow moving vehicles in the fast lane. i may be kidding but sometimes i wish they'd do that.

[claRkEnt]

Naalala ko tuloy ang tawag ng iba kong kasama riyan sa service lane ng SLEX..... executive lane raw.....

4303

this is so true... i remember when the rehabilitation of SLEX havent started yet, our expat GM (a german national) has this habit of using the shoulder. Coupled with poor implementation of rules by the enforcers, never pa sya nahuli. if ever na mahuli man, maybe intimidated ang enforcers kasi foreigner. pinapalusot with the usual "no more next time, sir."

[Horsepower]

SLEX problems are mainly the drivers. The lack of Filipinos' discipline (including me).


I honestly hate all the fast lane huggers because being stuck in traffic, costs a lot of money. You might not notice it, but traffic costs about 15 Billion dollars worth of lost business, one way or the other.

I made a thread about those expressway goons. Exactly the same sentiments as yours moe and wildthing. Fast lane huggers and Shoulder idiots.

[mbeige]

When I was there my wife and I went to Tagaytay and true enough we saw several people hogging the shoulder lane. When exiting I just make sure nobody is running that lane and being used to my diesel ride I leave enough room for the additional margin of safety in case somebody decides to do a stunt. And if in case they do, I will just let them pass, I'll brake and slow down so I can merge behind them at the point of exit. No point in risking your life, your passengers' lives, as well as your own personal property (your car) to these goons who don't really give any sh!t about proper road etiquette and safety.

If somebody is blaring down the road right behind them, with the added margin of safety, I will just overaccelerate them and pass both until I can safely get out of the through lanes and into the exit ramps. If they insist, I will do a fake until they slam on their brakes, and I can out accelerate them to the exit. Sorry na lang sila if they get into trouble, that's their problem for making it even more dangerous for everybody else.

[mbeige]

(double post)

[Horsepower]

B747: you're right bro, sa ME lang ako nakakakita ng nangc-cut at 200kmh. And halos araw araw may patay na arabo or indian/pakistani sa car accidents. Really stupid drivers.

pero sa ME lang ako nakakita ng Lamborghini at Ferrari EVERYDAY. hehehe.

Yoda: got your point, siguro i'm like this kasi i'm not yet a family man. Indeed, perspectives would change pag may dependents ka na.

Minsan kasi, most of us don't know what to do with these lowlifes.

[teeyoh]

this is so true... i remember when the rehabilitation of SLEX havent started yet, our expat GM (a german national) has this habit of using the shoulder. Coupled with poor implementation of rules by the enforcers, never pa sya nahuli. if ever na mahuli man, maybe intimidated ang enforcers kasi foreigner. pinapalusot with the usual "no more next time, sir."

my brod in law (german) when he started driving in the phils was the typical european type i.e. law abiding, no sounding of horns, and obsrves the right of way... but it is not applicable here with our drivers in fact his cars are always in and out of the casa because of collisions as he doesn't give in to those mahilig sumingit and insist of his right of way. fortunately ala pa namang gabe aksidente at lagi namang collect sa insurance kaya lang suki na siya ng dealer.

kaya lang maybe because of our driving conditions sa 'pinas my brother in law had changed his passive driving and become more aggresive... now pag nahuli ng mmda for small violation like swerving "pagbukas ng window ngiti lang siya" tapos dahil foreigner inglis naman yung officer ng sir! you are swerving sir!!! pero filipino culture kaya "no repeet next time"...

[Flagg]

... what does he want me to do???? accelerate to 200 just so he can move along? talking about commonsense, who does 140 while nearing the tollbooth??? ...

Weave from side to side para akala nya lasing ka.

He will avoid you.

[wildthing]

^^ harharhar...nice one

[webmiester]

I think it boils down to respect. Too many people want to become "King of the Road": Jeepneys, Cars with Wang-Wang, Buses, Luxury Vehicles...

The problem really is that they tend to lack respect for other drivers... either that or they keep having diarrhea and really need to use the rest room fast!

[cumbersome]

The police should apprehend these people. 510Php per violator should boost the government's revenues considerably. Just because everyone's doing it and the authorities are not doing anything about it doesn't mean it's right. One of these days, a stalled vehicle will be on the shoulder and those 120km/h Expeds will need to swerve into the outermost lane and plow through law-abiding drivers.

[Yoda]

Yoda: got your point, siguro i'm like this kasi i'm not yet a family man. Indeed, perspectives would change pag may dependents ka na.

How about thinking of yourself since there's no family to think of (yet). Think of how much you'll miss out on if your life ends meaninglessly due to a road rage incident. (knock on wood) Either that or mag-asawa ka na.

[Yoda]

I think it boils down to respect. Too many people want to become "King of the Road": Jeepneys, Cars with Wang-Wang, Buses, Luxury Vehicles...

Very true! Akala mo oras lang nila ang mahalaga. Akala mo sila ang nagpapaikot sa mundo. Anak ng teteng!

[hominid]

Sobrang walang paki.

U can overtake there, at ur own risk na mahuli, kung its really safe.

Kasi everytime me exit, ur suppose to give way dun sa mga lumalabas or pumapasok(nagbe-blend) sa traffic. Ur suppose to tranfer nga to the passing lane, d ba? Tapos haharangan o kacut-an mo pa.

Napaka dangerous nun.

[Horsepower]

How about thinking of yourself since there's no family to think of (yet). Think of how much you'll miss out on if your life ends meaninglessly due to a road rage incident. (knock on wood) Either that or mag-asawa ka na.

That will never happen. Protected child ako e. hehe

Anyway, thanks for the concern. Di naman ako road rage type of guy, I'm not the type who'll step out of my car just to waste my time over some lowlife who doesn't know how to drive properly.

I'm too young to get married, mid-20s pa lang ako e. hehe