Using the shoulder as an overtaking/fast lane

[moe]

Filipino drivers are really out of this world!!! I always use the SLEX and it is one of my favorite avenues. WHy? Well, aside from the exorbitant toll fees I consider it a real driving challenge/test what with the countless potholes, uneven paving and now ongoing construction (neverending). ONe thing that really ticks me off is when drivers overtake on the shoulder (fine is 510 pesos!!!) but of course that's considered normal in these parts. However, the thing that really pisses me off is when I'm already in the outermost lane within the solid line, with my blinker on signaling my intention to exit at the next tollgate, and a car comes up behind me honking his horn and flashing his lights, like mad as hell!!!! What the heck am i supposed to do, floor it??? Well, instead of following me all the way to the tollbooth, the driver apparently just used the shoulder to overtake the other vehicles in the proper lanes. I can somehow understand using the shoulder to overtake but when you enter the solid line near an exit you'd better exit!!! This poses a great risk to motorists. This has happened to me like 20 times and i've just about had it! no offense guys, but normally, the impatient guys who do this drive suburbans or expeds, or other big cars. others use wang-wangs too. And the nerve!!! They have the nerve to give me a high beam! Oh, well, just venting.

[shadow]

welcome to the Philippines....

[wildthing]

Since you mentioned SLEX... sa dami ng ginagawang expansion dyan and most of them are actually inuna sa EXITS you should know by now that the shoulder is part of the regular road already.

In fact, hindi na sila nanghuhuli from alabang upto the end of the tollway and vise-versa basta't na road construction area. As such you should be in the shoulder na as early as 200-100meters na prior to the exit - ke may nag-oovertake pa dun sa shoulder.

I think it is also a common sense that the driver should be looking at their side view mirrors every few seconds and not only at the last minute na papasok sila sa left or right. I think this is the main reason why nabibigla na lang yung ibang drivers na merun pa lang nasa left or right nila na mabilis na sasakyan.

At the current situation of roadworks in SLEX I would rather rant on the slow drivers that take the fast lane or those that hog the lane...kahit alam na ngang yung half ng inner lane ay "kinain" na ng road works....sa current situation ng kalye dun, common sense na dapat ang pairalin - the road marks/line are no longer true lalo na sa mga construction areas.

just my 2 cents. :peace:

[moe]

i have experienced this even before the road widening thing and this happens even when there are 2 lanes available. heck, i've been experiencing this since 10 years ago. the thing that irks me most is that they have the nerve to cut through the solid yellow line and high beam and honk their horns at me even if my turn signal is on and i am about to exit. commonsense? i don't think so. if there's construction going on that would be a bit understandable but still they shouldn't give me the high bean nor honk at me since i'm in the right place and my turn signal is a clear sign of my intention to use the exit ramp while all they want to do is pass through. this is dangerous because once they pass through the shoulder they don't cut back into traffic right away and sometimes the vehicles entering the expressway on the other side almost hit them.

[j_avonni]

I'm just being patient to these impatient, stupid and undisciplined drivers.




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[moe]

wildthing, hmmmmm. you seem to be a bit too fond of the term "common sense". what are you implying anyway? hehe. and yes, i use my side mirrors, rearview too.

[HIFI]

The "laws" or "batas" in the Philippines are mere suggestions.

Implementation was always a problem. Some people love it, while others don't.

The epitome of freedom....ika nga.

[n5110]

maski naman hinde pa ginagawa yan for road widening ganyan na ang ibang motorista na dumadaan dyan. the nerve talaga. mga b#iset!!! di ba pwede ilagay ang mga MAPSA dyan pag natapos ang road widening tignan natin kung hinde sila maubusan ng Php510 kada violation.

[Horsepower]

Moe,

Driving here in the Phils needs adaptation.

The easiest way to sum it up is assume that all other drivers are stupid uneducated idiots who doesn't know jack about road rules and courtesy.

Just assume that they are completely stupid and you'll be fine (since you'll be extra careful).

I've experienced what you had, about to exit then someone beams me but i still go through, they have brakes, my car is fast, if they meet an accident, it's their fault.

My only concern is that I'm on the right side of the law. Always insist your rights if you have the time. If we continue to be passive, mediocre minded beings would continue to dominate the streets.

[CVT]

Ingat na lang tayo parati.... Ganyan talaga ang utak ng ilan sa ating kapwa driver diyan sa SLEX.....

Wala naman kasing consistent na pagpapatupad ng batas dito sa atin....

4303:gun:

[moe]

Hp, your post makes perfect sense. the thing is, im already in the outermost lane just about to make the curve towards the tollbooth and here comes a speed demon doing like 120-140 giving me the high beam and honking his horn. what does he want me to do???? accelerate to 200 just so he can move along? talking about commonsense, who does 140 while nearing the tollbooth??? you should slow down coz there's usually a long line of vehicles waiting to pass through the tollgate. i believe it's got something to do with how a person is raised and how he carries himself. rules are not always implemented consistently but a person should be responsible enough to know what's right or wrong.

[Horsepower]

In that situation, do a brake test. :-)

You're on the right lane, there's no fault in you.

[meledson]

In that situation, do a brake test. :-)

You're on the right lane, there's no fault in you.

That is also what I do :D, pero light lang ang tapak sa brake para umilaw lang, not to slow down drastically. Of course naka on na ang signal lights ko.

[Yoda]

I've experienced what you had, about to exit then someone beams me but i still go through, they have brakes, my car is fast, if they meet an accident, it's their fault.

And if the accident results in damage to property, particularly my property and/or loss of lives, will everything be fine and dandy? After all, it's their fault...

If I performed a maneuver which resulted in avoiding the accident in the first place but the idiot gets away with what he did, wouldn't that be a better alternative? Bwahaha, he's macho, I'm not, I should sulk in my corner then.

My only concern is that I'm on the right side of the law. Always insist your rights if you have the time. If we continue to be passive, mediocre minded beings would continue to dominate the streets.

This is contrary to defensive driving principles.

Don't get me wrong. I have enough years of driving to know that it's easy to lose one's head while driving, especially in our streets. But we always have to have the presence of mind to do the "right" thing and react in the "right" manner. Or at least try...

To the TS, ok lang yung rant. I don't think you could've/should've handled the situation any differently.

[moe]

yup, sometimes it just gets frustrating coz you don't know what else you can do. sometimes i'm tempted to apply the brakes and piss him off by slowing down to a crawl, however that would endanger myself. this is a dilemma indeed. but how much is too much? is this all we do? turn away, walk away? if we believe that rules and laws here are mere suggestions then do we make our own interpretations? no wonder many people turn into vigilantes, taking the law into their own hands because it seems the government and authorities are engaged in more important affairs. these traffic offenses may be deemed light, inconsequential, but the end results can be fatal. if we continue to justify these actions, well, pretty soon they're gonna be accepted as the norms of this society. most of them already are.

[Yoda]

this is a dilemma indeed. but how much is too much? is this all we do? turn away, walk away? if we believe that rules and laws here are mere suggestions then do we make our own interpretations? no wonder many people turn into vigilantes, taking the law into their own hands because it seems the government and authorities are engaged in more important affairs. these traffic offenses may be deemed light, inconsequential, but the end results can be fatal. if we continue to justify these actions, well, pretty soon they're gonna be accepted as the norms of this society. most of them already are.

At the end of the day, the solution is really proper law enforcement. I can put the burden on myself and "educate" these fools, but the consequences are far too great as we've seen in the countless road rage incidents that we watch in the news. Am I being selfish? Or a coward even? No, I'm just thinking of my family. And if these morons would think of their families too then there wouldn't be too many of them. ;)

[moe]

survival is the key. that's it. i feel sad though that things which should be deemed normal like road discipline and courtesy are considered rarities in this society.

[BoEinG_747]

Bro Horsepower,,mas makukulit mag drive ang mga taga Middle east .:0

[chuaed]

kahit sino maiinis talaga, pero wala tayo magagawa...

baka emergency siguro, kaya nag wang wang pagbigyan mo na... baka TUMAE sa loob ng kanilang leather upholstery...

nandiyan naman ang KARMA...

[wildthing]

as I would see it...nangyayari yung mga umoovertake sa shoulder kasi the road is not enough na sa volume of traffic.

and if i were to rant on these people, I would FIRST rant on those slow moving vehicles hogging the fast/overtake lane.