Odd Even sa Edsa (2010 edition)

[reym]

+1 Basta wag lang si Tolentino na walang ka logic logic sa ulo, malamang 14 ang kotse nitong tao na to kaya sarili nya lang inisip nya.

I'd rather have Oscar Inocentes back. At least he did his job as MMDA Chairman without fanfare and by not putting in more obstructions on the roads.

[sgt_taga]

^ daming bakla

bwahahahahaa... ibang klase ka talaga OB. napatawa mo ko nang husto. salamat brader.

[ghosthunter]

Personally, the proposed traffic coding for PUBs on EDSA must just be the start of a wider scheme to reduce the total number of buses in the metro.

This should include plans to permanently REDUCE the number of buses and their associated franchises to operate in the metro. The target should be something close to what traffic studies (like the Japanese study on the ideal number of PUBs) say the maximum number of PUBs should be.

There should be a permanent move to discipline the drivers of PUBs to keep within their lanes, limit the max time the buses spend at the pickup points, etc.

[p_borj]

hell yeah! hindi na malilipat ang mga private car owners sa side streets.

[reym]

I agree with the idea about decreasing the volume of buses, during the process, the government should also create an alternative transportation for the masses for the MRT is too crowded.

Discipline for those PUV drivers is a must. Madalas na bottlenecks tulad ng Cubao at Ortigas nakahambalang ang mga bus na sobrang gumagapang, haba tuloy pila.

Disiplina din para sa ibang private car owners, imbis na pumila dumodoble sa pila kaya ung mga pa deretso sa endsa nababawasam ung lines kaya nag kaka bottleneck tuloy.

Personally, the proposed traffic coding for PUBs on EDSA must just be the start of a wider scheme to reduce the total number of buses in the metro.

This should include plans to permanently REDUCE the number of buses and their associated franchises to operate in the metro. The target should be something close to what traffic studies (like the Japanese study on the ideal number of PUBs) say the maximum number of PUBs should be.

There should be a permanent move to discipline the drivers of PUBs to keep within their lanes, limit the max time the buses spend at the pickup points, etc.

[ghosthunter]

Hanging trains anyone?

[boybi]

^ daming bakla

Sabi ng mga kakilala kong bandinger Z: "It takes one to know one."

[badsekktor]

Sabi ng mga kakilala kong bandinger Z: "It takes one to know one."

hahahaha! natawa ako dito! pero ganun nga din sabi ng mga kabarkada ni misis na bakla

[Quint]

If they want to reduce the number of cars on the road, the government needs to implement a transport system that is privatized, well ran, and reaches the key areas of the city. That means, aside from the current trains from Monumento to Pasay, North Edsa to Pasay, and Marikina to Central, they need to build more rails, and further. We also need sub-loops, and a good bus system to complement the train system, so we can get rid of those jeeps and tricycles (and all the bad things associated with it i.e. pollution, undisciplined drivers, addicts, etc).

Train route: Laguna to Manila. That PNR train is under utilized, if they need to put that on stilts just like the other MRTs, by all means, they should do it until it reaches Central station. The same goes for the North. They should build one. Some of the suggested routes below...

North Luzon Train route: Manila to Laoag.
South Luzon Train route: Manila to Matnog; Manila to Batangas.

They should build a train route that is not only for private passengers, but they should also build routes to the ports. This way, cargo does not go through the streets to congest it, much less, damage it by the heavy weight.

MRT loop: Makati to Global City. This the CBD. We expect a lot of people as it is the center of trade. It needs to be efficient. But let people walk or ride the train, and ban the jeepneys, peddy cabs and tricycles.

Of course, the private companies need to maintain all these well. The walkways need to be connected, air conditioned (if possible), clean, and well lit.

And we're only talking about trains here. I haven't even mentioned the buses yet. Let the buses, huge or small, be the mode of transport in smaller places, and just retire the jeepney, unless they can mass produce the electric jeepney for smaller cities. This is where government can strictly regulate licenses and franchises. Here's another clue: study former British colonies i.e. HK and Singapore. They have the best bus systems.

Taxis need to be in tip-top condition, or else, they get penalized heavily if their taxis are run down.

How? Ask private investors to bid for specific franchises / routes/ system that they wish to get into. Let them run it well on one condition---the payment system should be uniform like Singapore's contactless E-Z pass.

Now that the transport system is in place, charge a higher tax on cars. Using Singapore as an example again, charge a COE or a Certificate of Entitlement where consumers bid for a right to purchase a vehicle. Charge a painful amount, at least 25% of the vehicle's price so people will think twice about buying a car.

For older cars, charge higher taxes i.e. for emissions, safety, etc., so that using an old car becomes impractical.

If this were the case, then I would have little use for a car, perhaps only if and when I need to haul stuff, or go out with friends and family. Otherwise, I would opt to ride, and gladly contribute to a smaller carbon footprint by not driving my car. Call it a BMW if you want--- Bus, MRT, Walk. :-)
There's hopefully less congestion, less stress, and a cleaner Philippines.

Is there anybody you know in government who can please implement? Pllleeassse?!

[aejhayl17]

nabasura na daw ayon sa TV patrol.

[speed unlimited]

Malamang nga maraming kumokontra .

[informant]

Magwawala na naman si Claire...

http://www.abs-cbnnews.com/nation/me...dd-even-scheme

Good news indeed, I'm glad the Mayors had more sense than this MMDA chief

More good news, that buses will no longer be exempt from coding

[aejhayl17]

kasama na mga bus sa number coding scheme.

something good to hear.

OT: gusto ng BUS operators, private vehicles ang bawasan. come on!

[renzo_d10]

kasama na mga bus sa number coding scheme.

something good to hear.

Saya nga eh.

Sabi nila, 600 bus daw mababawas but that won't make a difference.

Sarap sampalin, 600 buses is 600 buses !

Mas magiging maluwag pa rin kasi mababawasan ng ganung amount.

Palusot lang yun eh. Ayaw lang talaga nila.

OT: gusto ng BUS operators, private vehicles ang bawasan. come on!

Okay ako diyan kung payag sila na tanggalin din yung dilapidated buses nila. For sure, luluwag ang Metro.

Kaya yan. Japan nga ilang years lang eh. Phase out na. Nagiging basurahan tuloy tayo.

[keithdb]

heard on the news that the manila mayors deferred the odd-even scheme. buti naman at sana di na to mabuhay uli. pagsakali kasi na ginawa nila yan, lahat ng alternate routes ay magcloclog lalong lalo ang c5. trafik na nga ngaun during rush hour lalo pang magkakatrapik. di lang yan apektado din an mga tumatawid lang gaya ng sa may ortigas ave intersection

[reym]

I am going to vote you for president after abnoy's term.

If they want to reduce the number of cars on the road, the government needs to implement a transport system that is privatized, well ran, and reaches the key areas of the city. That means, aside from the current trains from Monumento to Pasay, North Edsa to Pasay, and Marikina to Central, they need to build more rails, and further. We also need sub-loops, and a good bus system to complement the train system, so we can get rid of those jeeps and tricycles (and all the bad things associated with it i.e. pollution, undisciplined drivers, addicts, etc).

Train route: Laguna to Manila. That PNR train is under utilized, if they need to put that on stilts just like the other MRTs, by all means, they should do it until it reaches Central station. The same goes for the North. They should build one. Some of the suggested routes below...

North Luzon Train route: Manila to Laoag.
South Luzon Train route: Manila to Matnog; Manila to Batangas.

They should build a train route that is not only for private passengers, but they should also build routes to the ports. This way, cargo does not go through the streets to congest it, much less, damage it by the heavy weight.

MRT loop: Makati to Global City. This the CBD. We expect a lot of people as it is the center of trade. It needs to be efficient. But let people walk or ride the train, and ban the jeepneys, peddy cabs and tricycles.

Of course, the private companies need to maintain all these well. The walkways need to be connected, air conditioned (if possible), clean, and well lit.

And we're only talking about trains here. I haven't even mentioned the buses yet. Let the buses, huge or small, be the mode of transport in smaller places, and just retire the jeepney, unless they can mass produce the electric jeepney for smaller cities. This is where government can strictly regulate licenses and franchises. Here's another clue: study former British colonies i.e. HK and Singapore. They have the best bus systems.

Taxis need to be in tip-top condition, or else, they get penalized heavily if their taxis are run down.

How? Ask private investors to bid for specific franchises / routes/ system that they wish to get into. Let them run it well on one condition---the payment system should be uniform like Singapore's contactless E-Z pass.

Now that the transport system is in place, charge a higher tax on cars. Using Singapore as an example again, charge a COE or a Certificate of Entitlement where consumers bid for a right to purchase a vehicle. Charge a painful amount, at least 25% of the vehicle's price so people will think twice about buying a car.

For older cars, charge higher taxes i.e. for emissions, safety, etc., so that using an old car becomes impractical.

If this were the case, then I would have little use for a car, perhaps only if and when I need to haul stuff, or go out with friends and family. Otherwise, I would opt to ride, and gladly contribute to a smaller carbon footprint by not driving my car. Call it a BMW if you want--- Bus, MRT, Walk. :-)
There's hopefully less congestion, less stress, and a cleaner Philippines.

Is there anybody you know in government who can please implement? Pllleeassse?!

[a3n3as]

heard on the news that the manila mayors deferred the odd-even scheme. buti naman at sana di na to mabuhay uli. pagsakali kasi na ginawa nila yan, lahat ng alternate routes ay magcloclog lalong lalo ang c5. trafik na nga ngaun during rush hour lalo pang magkakatrapik. di lang yan apektado din an mga tumatawid lang gaya ng sa may ortigas ave intersection

Metro mayors approve number coding for buses



http://www.gmanews.tv/story/203512/m...ding-for-buses


Number coding sa bus inaprubahan; Odd-even scheme sa EDSA ibinasura


http://www.gmanews.tv/story/203529/n...edsa-ibinasura

[CVT]

I agree with the article above.

Just get rid of 50% of the buses and traffic will be much smoother! Maybe that's where they can implement that 50% of buses can travel on MWF while the other 50% can only travel TThS!

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Parang ang hirap isipin ni Chairman iyan, a?

10.9K:lotocoffee:

[Monseratto]

What motorists resent is to be driven off EDSA without the MMDA first applying other obvious remedies with some seriousness and vigor. For instance, if EDSA can carry only 1,200 buses and 3,600 are plying the route, why can’t the MMDA persuade the Land Transportation and Franchising Regulatory Board to limit the number of buses allowed on EDSA? Why do “colorum” buses continue to ply this route despite periodic crackdowns by land transportation agencies? And it is not only the sheer number of buses that contributes to the bad traffic situation on EDSA, it is also the utter disregard of traffic rules by their drivers.

Bakit takot ang mga politicos sa mga bus operators?

[kurby]

Actually the root cause of this is that there are too many people in Metro Manila.

Mahihilig kasi... Dapat i-control na ang population.

I remember during his first day in the office and he was interviewed, he said that he'll try to copy the discipline in London. Almost 100 hundred days in office, after all the studies made that show PUVs are the ones causing heavy traffic, the best he could come up with is the "Odd-Even Scheme" and once again, the private car owners are the ones who will severely get affected.

Only half of Francis Tolentino's brain is working when he proposed that. I suggest he should drive around Metro Manila on his own, his regular car without any backup from sun up to sun down, rush hours, wee or unholy hours, Baclaran to Monumento and all the avenues for a whole week, just for a week. For sure after that grueling week, the other half of his brain would realized that his other half brain is stupid enough to have proposed that one. The problem with those people is they have their sweet little time at the back passenger side of their car each time they leave home that's why they never experience the hustle and bustle of daily driving.

Yes, If you drive around roxas boulevard at midnight especially the Baclaran and Coastal road section only, 2 lanes are utilized for traffic and the other 3 are used for jeepney terminal, this is at the Baclaran overpass, after you cross that point there is no bottleneck anymore. Next bottleneck is the Coastal road section wherein 2 lanes are utilized going to coastal road, 2 lanes going left to MIA and the other 3 are for the Cavite or Las Pinas bound jeepneys.

I agree with the idea about decreasing the volume of buses, during the process, the government should also create an alternative transportation for the masses for the MRT is too crowded.

Discipline for those PUV drivers is a must. Madalas na bottlenecks tulad ng Cubao at Ortigas nakahambalang ang mga bus na sobrang gumagapang, haba tuloy pila.

Disiplina din para sa ibang private car owners, imbis na pumila dumodoble sa pila kaya ung mga pa deretso sa endsa nababawasam ung lines kaya nag kaka bottleneck tuloy.

Oo nga para kayong mga motor ginagamit ang linya as motorcycle lane.

Dapat yung tren ng LRT 2 ang nasa MRT.. pagkaluwag-luwag kaya ng LRT2 trains...

Bakit takot ang mga politicos sa mga bus operators?

Kasi isa sa kanila ang may ari nun. Alam nyo ba yung Jasper Jean? Yung bus na puno na eh pupunuin pa. Hehehe... Si kwan ang may ari nun.