Big churches, Small parking lots. (or none at all)

[xagent_orangex]

Dapat mahkaroon na ng batas na kailangan na may parking ang mga church equivalent sa dame ng mga taong pupunta. Or at least kasya and 100 cars.

HaaaaY...It boils down again to our useless government..!

actually meron sir. nasa national building code natin yan. may ratio kung ilang parking slot per number of people. yun nga lang, madalas hindi nachecheck sa building official dahil exempted ito sa building permit (religious and govt buildings)..so basta may lote para sa simbahan ok na. pero ok na yan, kung napupuno ang parking nila kung meron man, meaning maraming nagsisimba. hassle lang dun sa mga bahay o establishment na katabi.

[Vodka]

what do these people get from going to church anyway? these are the same immoral people we have to deal with everyday.

most churches have poor PA system, you can't even understand what the priest is saying, that is if he's making any sense in the first place. most of the time he doesn't. all you get is propaganda: anti RH and all that ****

then it's all ritualistic, repeating the same things over and over again. kneel, stand, sit, ad infinitum

no wonder there's been a huge drop in church attendance. so nope the church won't do anything about the parking issues. they want you to attend church by any means necessary, so **** you if you're delayed by traffic jams caused by this. remember, suffering is a virtue LOL

[rfgoons]

They say God is everywhere, so you can worship anywhere. You don't have to show people you go to church to "pray".


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That was also my belief for a very long time, until I realized, upon deep reflection, why we are called to attend the holy mass. During the holy mass, we gather as a community of believers to worship and pray not only for ourselves but for and with others. As a community in brotherhood with Christ, we owe it upon ourselves to look and care, spiritually and physically, to our fellowmen. That is why when our Lord Jesus Christ taught us the "Lord's Prayer", He did not start with "My Father..." but "Our Father...". This is meant to be prayed in communion with others. When we say "Hail Mary..." we do not say "pray for me sinner now at the hour of my death" but "pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death." The priest does not also say "Let me pray" but "Let us pray". We pray for the living and our dead and even ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, the saints and angels to pray and intercede for us. Of course, there is nothing wrong in worshiping and praying anywhere and alone. That would build ones personal relationship and intimacy with the Almighty God. It is not, however, sufficient. We are also called to do our christian obligation. By the way, sorry for the long discussion and for being OT on this.

[leodawesome]

Maybe it's not within the capacity of the church to afford large lots. Also, yung ibang simbahan panahon pa ni kopong kopong nakatayo so yung lupa is di na naexpand. Di naman ganun kadami nagsisimba na may sasakyan dati. Let's face it, overcrowded talaga tayo dito sa metro. And come to think of it, every month boom ang sales ng sasakyan. Do the math (or physics?).

[Vodka]

Maybe it's not within the capacity of the church to afford large lots. Also, yung ibang simbahan panahon pa ni kopong kopong nakatayo so yung lupa is di na naexpand. Di naman ganun kadami nagsisimba na may sasakyan dati. Let's face it, overcrowded talaga tayo dito sa metro. And come to think of it, every month boom ang sales ng sasakyan. Do the math (or physics?).

yep the city is overcrowded but that's a problem that the church and its goers should solve. the general public shouldn't be the one to bear the burden for the mere convenience of these churchgoers

this is the problem when it comes to issues w/ the church and/or "god". these people seem to have the divine priviledge because they're doing something "for god", so everyone can just phuck themselves. "i'm a christian and i'm gonna park in the middle of the road coz god says so"

[CLAVEL3699]

We are also called to do our christian obligation. By the way, sorry for the long discussion and for being OT on this.

Dba kasama sa inyong obligation ay hindi mamerwisyo nang inyong kapwa? Dba tinuturo din yan?

Alam na walang parking bakit hindi na lang mamasahe or maglakad hindi eh dun pa mismo magbaba nang pasahero nang mga maganda nyong sasakyan.

Kasehodang Nakikita na nila ang sobra haba nang traffic dahil sa kagagawan nang mga nakapark sa gitna nang kalsada.

[rfgoons]

Dba kasama sa inyong obligation ay hindi mamerwisyo nang inyong kapwa? Dba tinuturo din yan?

Alam na walang parking bakit hindi na lang mamasahe or maglakad hindi eh dun pa mismo magbaba nang pasahero nang mga maganda nyong sasakyan.

Kasehodang Nakikita na nila ang sobra haba nang traffic dahil sa kagagawan nang mga nakapark sa gitna nang kalsada.

Yes, you are correct on this. Lahat naman ng major religions preached na huwag mamerwisho sa iba. However, part of being a christian and a catholic is the fact that we are all sinners. We struggle everyday from sin and the temptation of sin. We struggle each day in doing good. That is the reason why we pray everyday from deliverance from sin. Being a christian does not mean being perfect or being blameless or faultless. But, it does not also mean that we live by sin. It means that we must avoid the occassion of sin and to do good. Even our saints, during their lifetime, are not free from sin and temptation. St. Augustine led a worldly life before he became holy. St. Camillus was a cruel soldier before he was converted. It is a matter of overcoming our sinful tendencies.

I am grateful for this thread as it gives us and the others who read this the opportunity to correct our mistakes and to value the rights of others and to respect traffic rules. It makes us realized our shortcomings. Thank you.

[CLAVEL3699]

Even our saints, during their lifetime, are not free from sin and temptation. St. Augustine led a worldly life before he became holy. St. Camillus was a cruel soldier before he was converted. It is a matter of overcoming our sinful tendencies.

I am grateful for this thread as it gives us and the others who read this the opportunity to correct our mistakes and to value the rights of others and to respect traffic rules. It makes us realized our shortcomings. Thank you.

Dyan ako nagtataka tao naging santo at dinadasalan/sinasamba... Naniniwala ba kayo sa 10commandment?

OT na ba ako.

[Vodka]

That was also my belief for a very long time, until I realized, upon deep reflection, why we are called to attend the holy mass. During the holy mass, we gather as a community of believers to worship and pray not only for ourselves but for and with others. As a community in brotherhood with Christ, we owe it upon ourselves to look and care, spiritually and physically, to our fellowmen. That is why when our Lord Jesus Christ taught us the "Lord's Prayer", He did not start with "My Father..." but "Our Father...". This is meant to be prayed in communion with others. When we say "Hail Mary..." we do not say "pray for me sinner now at the hour of my death" but "pray for us sinners now and at the hour of our death." The priest does not also say "Let me pray" but "Let us pray". We pray for the living and our dead and even ask the Blessed Virgin Mary, the saints and angels to pray and intercede for us. Of course, there is nothing wrong in worshiping and praying anywhere and alone. That would build ones personal relationship and intimacy with the Almighty God. It is not, however, sufficient. We are also called to do our christian obligation. By the way, sorry for the long discussion and for being OT on this.

that's exactly what the spaniards wanted you to do. attend church, get force-fed with their propaganda, confess your sins, hope to attain salvation that could only be gotten through their church. it let them keep tabs on everyone and maintain control

in the process it totally destroyed the filipino culture and spirit. the (bad) effects of which could be seen all around you today

[jave]

I don't really think it's a matter of religion but more on the tendency of people here to be short sighted or inconsiderate of strangers. Either hindi nila naisip na nakakaperwisyo na sila or wala sila pakialam na maging bastos o garapal sa mga hindi nila kilala.

Cases in point:
1. The scenario in which this thread is about. Wala sila pakialam makaperwisyo ng ibang tao basta makapark lang at makapagsimba. Or on a related note, mga taong nagsisimba pero nakaharang sa daanan ng tao. Paano kaya makakapasok at makalabas ang iba?
2. PUV's stopping everywhere and commuters loading and unloading anywhere.
3. Maglakad ka lang kung saan, ang daming tumatambay na nakaharang sa daan or kung maglakad buong hilera hinarangan tapos ang bagal bagal pa.
4. Naglalakad ka tapos biglang may bobo mag cut sa harap tapos biglang tigil para kausapin yung mga barkada.

[CLAVEL3699]

I don't really think it's a matter of religion but more on the tendency of people here to be short sighted or inconsiderate of strangers. Either hindi nila naisip na nakakaperwisyo na sila or wala sila pakialam na maging bastos o garapal sa mga hindi nila kilala.

Cases in point:
1. The scenario in which this thread is about. Wala sila pakialam makaperwisyo ng ibang tao basta makapark lang at makapagsimba. Or on a related note, mga taong nagsisimba pero nakaharang sa daanan ng tao. Paano kaya makakapasok at makalabas ang iba?
2. PUV's stopping everywhere and commuters loading and unloading anywhere.
3. Maglakad ka lang kung saan, ang daming tumatambay na nakaharang sa daan or kung maglakad buong hilera hinarangan tapos ang bagal bagal pa.
4. Naglalakad ka tapos biglang may bobo mag cut sa harap tapos biglang tigil para kausapin yung mga barkada.

Teaching of the church ang issue dito... Alam naman nang tiga simbahan ang problem bakit hindi nila sabihan ang mga umaattend nang miss nila.

Or wala din pakialam ang simbahan.

[wezz_zzew]

IMHO, hindi naman dapat pinoproblema ang parking sa mga simbahan. Ang dapat naman kasi, kung ano yung malapit na simbahan sa tinitirahan mo eh dapat dun ka nagsisimba para hindi na kailangan magdala ng sasakyan. Ang nangyayari kasi, mas gusto ng mga tao magsimba dun sa mga malalapit sa mall o lugar na pwedeng magalaan o makakainan pagkatapos magsimba. Naging ugali na kasi ng mga pinoy na pagkatapos magsimba, derecho gala. Kadalasan din eh namimili yung mga tao ng pagsisimbahan. May mga namimili ng mga taong makakasalamuha o makikita. Ayaw dun sa mga maliliit na simbahan o chapel pero pag nasa loob naman ng simbahan, kung ano ano lang din ang ginagawa o pinaguusapan.



I may be stupid, but I am not a fool.

[jick.cejoco]

Ang karamihan ng mga nagsisimba parang moderator snip. Kung saan masikip, doon gusto. Kaya maraming itinayo na simbahan para hindi magsiksikan


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[automot0]

halos lahat naman ng religions nakaka-cause ng traffic pag worship day nila

[jick.cejoco]

Harharhar check quiapo church outskirts, they even sell pampalaglag. Catholics at work


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[170kphlang]

one word: courtesy

Sent from Constantinople

[automot0]

banal na aso santong kabayo natatawa ako hihihihi

sino dito ang hindi pa nakaabala o nakaperwisyo ng kapwa sa kalsada kahit minsan...hihihihi

[jick.cejoco]

Promoted, naging santo. Bakit ang ibang religion walang santo?


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