Big churches, Small parking lots. (or none at all)

**nori** · June 21st, 2014 02:01 AM

just to clarify, im not here to start a religious war or something. gusto ko lang malaman opinion niyo on this matter.

napansin ko lang yung karamihan ng malalaking simbahan ay walang ample parking space or wala talagang alloted parking space for churchgoers. kaya every sunday (or friday in the case of quiapo) nagiging cause of traffic yung mga nakaparadang sasakyan sa kalsada. obvious examples are:

- quiapo church
- st. peter in commonwealth
- the church in mindanao avenue near st. james

yung sa quiapo, 2-3 lanes ang ginagawang parking lot sa kahabaan ng quezon blvd. Sa St. Peter naman ganito rin pero di masyadong halata dahil sa lawak ng commonwealth avenue. yung sa may St. James same ng quiapo. they really cause traffic. di pa kasama yung mag PUJ at buses na magsasakay ng mga nag-attend ng service o mass.

back to basics, ayon sa constitution: the separation of church and state is blah blah blah. but what is the limit? i've read somewhere that establishments are required by law (construction-related) to provide parking space to their customers and the like, are churches covered by this?

naisip ko lang kasi, kung need talaga magdala ng sasakyan going to quiapo church, pwede naman siguro iwan sa SM Manila then ride an fx or taxi to the church. kung takot naman mahold-up along the way, then the church itself is by no means safe from pickpockets and gropers

**_Cathy_** · June 21st, 2014 02:16 AM

I avoid this problem by going to the 4 pm mass. I can choose a good parking slot. The worst time would be the 9 am and 5:30 pm mass.

**Rob O. Bravo** · June 21st, 2014 07:04 AM

meron pong pay parking beside Isetann, lakarin nalang going to quiapo church

**Manilablock** · June 21st, 2014 07:58 AM

ok lang ang kulang ang parking, ang pangit ay ung mga nagtitinda sa palibot ng simbahan. sana meron pari na lumabas ng simbahan at itapon ung mga paninda, at pagsabihan un mga tao na wag nyo gawing palenke ang tahanan ng Diyos Ama.

**CLAVEL3699** · June 21st, 2014 08:48 AM

Pinakabwisit sa lahat yung sa May Mindanao avenue ang natitira kadalasan one lane na lang... Ang alam ko pagnagsisimba ang tinuturo ay huwag manlamang sa kapwa at mamerwisyo.

Parang walang turo nito ang simbahan, tolerate pa. Alam naman nilang walang parking bakit hindi na lang sila magcommute ang pagsisimba ay sinasamahan nang sacrifice.

**red_one** · June 21st, 2014 08:50 AM

for old churches circa Spanish era, wala naman motor vehicle pa ng tinayo ang mga yan so parking space was not considered at that time.

**CLAVEL3699** · June 21st, 2014 08:53 AM

Originally Posted by red_one

for old churches circa Spanish era, wala naman motor vehicle pa ng tinayo ang mga yan so parking space was not considered at that time.

Hindi naman problema ang simbahan e. Ang problema ang mga taong nagsisimba at ang turo nila.

**nori** · June 26th, 2014 08:43 PM

Originally Posted by red_one

for old churches circa Spanish era, wala naman motor vehicle pa ng tinayo ang mga yan so parking space was not considered at that time.

good point. pero this can be remedied by NOT allowing vehicles to be parked along a major thoroughfare like in the case of quiapo. pwede naman sa side streets kung saan di makakaperwisyo. plus may mga malls with ample parking spaces near the vicinity like isetann and sm manila.

yung sa mindanao ave... hay naku.

**rfgoons** · June 27th, 2014 12:11 PM

Ot na rin siguro ako.
To Sir Clavel,
Hindi po sinasamba ang mga santo, they are asked to pray for us/intercede for us, believing that we are a community in prayer, before God. We believed that saints and holy men, living extraordinary lives on earth, have special graces with God.

To Sir Jick,

other religions recognized saints and holy men such as the Aglipay, East Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox church, the Church of England and even other protestant religious sects. Even muslims recognized saints and holy men. They honored Abraham, Elijah, the Blessed Virgen Mary as holy people. They also recognized Jesus Christ as a prophet.

Again, I am very sorry for being OT. Peace.

**CLAVEL3699** · June 27th, 2014 01:02 PM

Originally Posted by rfgoons

Ot na rin siguro ako.
To Sir Clavel,
Hindi po sinasamba ang mga santo, they are asked to pray for us/intercede for us, believing that we are a community in prayer, before God. We believed that saints and holy men, living extraordinary lives on earth, have special graces with God.

Again, I am very sorry for being OT. Peace.

Ano po yung tawag dun sa mga taong humahalik sa santo at nagtitirik pa nang kandila?