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  1. Join Date
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    just to clarify, im not here to start a religious war or something. gusto ko lang malaman opinion niyo on this matter.

    napansin ko lang yung karamihan ng malalaking simbahan ay walang ample parking space or wala talagang alloted parking space for churchgoers. kaya every sunday (or friday in the case of quiapo) nagiging cause of traffic yung mga nakaparadang sasakyan sa kalsada. obvious examples are:

    - quiapo church
    - st. peter in commonwealth
    - the church in mindanao avenue near st. james

    yung sa quiapo, 2-3 lanes ang ginagawang parking lot sa kahabaan ng quezon blvd. Sa St. Peter naman ganito rin pero di masyadong halata dahil sa lawak ng commonwealth avenue. yung sa may St. James same ng quiapo. they really cause traffic. di pa kasama yung mag PUJ at buses na magsasakay ng mga nag-attend ng service o mass.

    back to basics, ayon sa constitution: the separation of church and state is blah blah blah. but what is the limit? i've read somewhere that establishments are required by law (construction-related) to provide parking space to their customers and the like, are churches covered by this?

    naisip ko lang kasi, kung need talaga magdala ng sasakyan going to quiapo church, pwede naman siguro iwan sa SM Manila then ride an fx or taxi to the church. kung takot naman mahold-up along the way, then the church itself is by no means safe from pickpockets and gropers

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    I avoid this problem by going to the 4 pm mass. I can choose a good parking slot. The worst time would be the 9 am and 5:30 pm mass.

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    meron pong pay parking beside Isetann, lakarin nalang going to quiapo church

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    ok lang ang kulang ang parking, ang pangit ay ung mga nagtitinda sa palibot ng simbahan. sana meron pari na lumabas ng simbahan at itapon ung mga paninda, at pagsabihan un mga tao na wag nyo gawing palenke ang tahanan ng Diyos Ama.

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    Pinakabwisit sa lahat yung sa May Mindanao avenue ang natitira kadalasan one lane na lang... Ang alam ko pagnagsisimba ang tinuturo ay huwag manlamang sa kapwa at mamerwisyo.

    Parang walang turo nito ang simbahan, tolerate pa. Alam naman nilang walang parking bakit hindi na lang sila magcommute ang pagsisimba ay sinasamahan nang sacrifice.

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    for old churches circa Spanish era, wala naman motor vehicle pa ng tinayo ang mga yan so parking space was not considered at that time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by red_one View Post
    for old churches circa Spanish era, wala naman motor vehicle pa ng tinayo ang mga yan so parking space was not considered at that time.
    Hindi naman problema ang simbahan e. Ang problema ang mga taong nagsisimba at ang turo nila.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manilablock View Post
    ok lang ang kulang ang parking, ang pangit ay ung mga nagtitinda sa palibot ng simbahan. sana meron pari na lumabas ng simbahan at itapon ung mga paninda, at pagsabihan un mga tao na wag nyo gawing palenke ang tahanan ng Diyos Ama.
    Sir,re enactment?hehehe
    Last edited by cardict; June 21st, 2014 at 01:04 PM.

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    nung tinayo kasi iyong simbahan hindi pa nag boom ang auto industry and most of the churches are pretty old to adapt to our modern world today...

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    Prays hard, attends every religious event, but doesn't care if makaperwisyo ng ibang tao.

    So much win.

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    They say God is everywhere, so you can worship anywhere. You don't have to show people you go to church to "pray".


    Nakiki wi-fi lang

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    Dapat mahkaroon na ng batas na kailangan na may parking ang mga church equivalent sa dame ng mga taong pupunta. Or at least kasya and 100 cars.

    HaaaaY...It boils down again to our useless government..!

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    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post
    Dapat mahkaroon na ng batas na kailangan na may parking ang mga church equivalent sa dame ng mga taong pupunta. Or at least kasya and 100 cars.

    HaaaaY...It boils down again to our useless government..!
    The church should be the one who reminds their parishioners about traffic rules.

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    dadaan pa naman ako mamaya dyan sa simbahan sa mindanao avenue.

    idagdag ko na rin sa listahan yung everynation church dyan sa malapit sa market market sa 32nd street. Maraming parking lot sa market market serendra at the fort bakit pinapayagan sa kalye magpark yan. Nagtitipid sa parking fee? O tamad maglakad?

    Oy mga churchgoers, nakakaperwisyo kayo.

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    +1 dun sa hassle na church sa Mindanao Ave near Tandang Sora. I try to avoid that area on Sundays.
    Isa pang hassle church yung sa INC sa Mindanao din corner Cattleya malapit sa Proj 6. Thursday nights two lanes kinakain nila sa Mindanao Ave.

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    IMHO, hindi naman dapat pinoproblema ang parking sa mga simbahan. Ang dapat naman kasi, kung ano yung malapit na simbahan sa tinitirahan mo eh dapat dun ka nagsisimba para hindi na kailangan magdala ng sasakyan. Ang nangyayari kasi, mas gusto ng mga tao magsimba dun sa mga malalapit sa mall o lugar na pwedeng magalaan o makakainan pagkatapos magsimba. Naging ugali na kasi ng mga pinoy na pagkatapos magsimba, derecho gala. Kadalasan din eh namimili yung mga tao ng pagsisimbahan. May mga namimili ng mga taong makakasalamuha o makikita. Ayaw dun sa mga maliliit na simbahan o chapel pero pag nasa loob naman ng simbahan, kung ano ano lang din ang ginagawa o pinaguusapan.



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    Quote Originally Posted by erick_214 View Post
    Dapat mahkaroon na ng batas na kailangan na may parking ang mga church equivalent sa dame ng mga taong pupunta. Or at least kasya and 100 cars.

    HaaaaY...It boils down again to our useless government..!
    actually meron sir. nasa national building code natin yan. may ratio kung ilang parking slot per number of people. yun nga lang, madalas hindi nachecheck sa building official dahil exempted ito sa building permit (religious and govt buildings)..so basta may lote para sa simbahan ok na. pero ok na yan, kung napupuno ang parking nila kung meron man, meaning maraming nagsisimba. hassle lang dun sa mga bahay o establishment na katabi.

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    what do these people get from going to church anyway? these are the same immoral people we have to deal with everyday.

    most churches have poor PA system, you can't even understand what the priest is saying, that is if he's making any sense in the first place. most of the time he doesn't. all you get is propaganda: anti RH and all that ****

    then it's all ritualistic, repeating the same things over and over again. kneel, stand, sit, ad infinitum

    no wonder there's been a huge drop in church attendance. so nope the church won't do anything about the parking issues. they want you to attend church by any means necessary, so **** you if you're delayed by traffic jams caused by this. remember, suffering is a virtue LOL

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    Ang karamihan ng mga nagsisimba parang moderator snip. Kung saan masikip, doon gusto. Kaya maraming itinayo na simbahan para hindi magsiksikan


    Nakiki wi-fi lang
    Last edited by _Cathy_; June 23rd, 2014 at 02:54 PM. Reason: removed obscene word

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    halos lahat naman ng religions nakaka-cause ng traffic pag worship day nila

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