Big churches, Small parking lots. (or none at all)

[nori]

just to clarify, im not here to start a religious war or something. gusto ko lang malaman opinion niyo on this matter.

napansin ko lang yung karamihan ng malalaking simbahan ay walang ample parking space or wala talagang alloted parking space for churchgoers. kaya every sunday (or friday in the case of quiapo) nagiging cause of traffic yung mga nakaparadang sasakyan sa kalsada. obvious examples are:

- quiapo church
- st. peter in commonwealth
- the church in mindanao avenue near st. james

yung sa quiapo, 2-3 lanes ang ginagawang parking lot sa kahabaan ng quezon blvd. Sa St. Peter naman ganito rin pero di masyadong halata dahil sa lawak ng commonwealth avenue. yung sa may St. James same ng quiapo. they really cause traffic. di pa kasama yung mag PUJ at buses na magsasakay ng mga nag-attend ng service o mass.

back to basics, ayon sa constitution: the separation of church and state is blah blah blah. but what is the limit? i've read somewhere that establishments are required by law (construction-related) to provide parking space to their customers and the like, are churches covered by this?

naisip ko lang kasi, kung need talaga magdala ng sasakyan going to quiapo church, pwede naman siguro iwan sa SM Manila then ride an fx or taxi to the church. kung takot naman mahold-up along the way, then the church itself is by no means safe from pickpockets and gropers

[_Cathy_]

I avoid this problem by going to the 4 pm mass. I can choose a good parking slot. The worst time would be the 9 am and 5:30 pm mass.

[Rob O. Bravo]

meron pong pay parking beside Isetann, lakarin nalang going to quiapo church

[Manilablock]

ok lang ang kulang ang parking, ang pangit ay ung mga nagtitinda sa palibot ng simbahan. sana meron pari na lumabas ng simbahan at itapon ung mga paninda, at pagsabihan un mga tao na wag nyo gawing palenke ang tahanan ng Diyos Ama.

[CLAVEL3699]

Pinakabwisit sa lahat yung sa May Mindanao avenue ang natitira kadalasan one lane na lang... Ang alam ko pagnagsisimba ang tinuturo ay huwag manlamang sa kapwa at mamerwisyo.

Parang walang turo nito ang simbahan, tolerate pa. Alam naman nilang walang parking bakit hindi na lang sila magcommute ang pagsisimba ay sinasamahan nang sacrifice.

[red_one]

for old churches circa Spanish era, wala naman motor vehicle pa ng tinayo ang mga yan so parking space was not considered at that time.

[CLAVEL3699]

for old churches circa Spanish era, wala naman motor vehicle pa ng tinayo ang mga yan so parking space was not considered at that time.

Hindi naman problema ang simbahan e. Ang problema ang mga taong nagsisimba at ang turo nila.

[nori]

for old churches circa Spanish era, wala naman motor vehicle pa ng tinayo ang mga yan so parking space was not considered at that time.

good point. pero this can be remedied by NOT allowing vehicles to be parked along a major thoroughfare like in the case of quiapo. pwede naman sa side streets kung saan di makakaperwisyo. plus may mga malls with ample parking spaces near the vicinity like isetann and sm manila.

yung sa mindanao ave... hay naku.

[rfgoons]

Ot na rin siguro ako.
To Sir Clavel,
Hindi po sinasamba ang mga santo, they are asked to pray for us/intercede for us, believing that we are a community in prayer, before God. We believed that saints and holy men, living extraordinary lives on earth, have special graces with God.

To Sir Jick,

other religions recognized saints and holy men such as the Aglipay, East Orthodox Church, Greek Orthodox church, the Church of England and even other protestant religious sects. Even muslims recognized saints and holy men. They honored Abraham, Elijah, the Blessed Virgen Mary as holy people. They also recognized Jesus Christ as a prophet.

Again, I am very sorry for being OT. Peace.

[CLAVEL3699]

Ot na rin siguro ako.
To Sir Clavel,
Hindi po sinasamba ang mga santo, they are asked to pray for us/intercede for us, believing that we are a community in prayer, before God. We believed that saints and holy men, living extraordinary lives on earth, have special graces with God.


Again, I am very sorry for being OT. Peace.

Ano po yung tawag dun sa mga taong humahalik sa santo at nagtitirik pa nang kandila?

[Manilablock]

Balik sa topic,


buti ang Baclaran Church meron ng improvement, pinaalis ung mga street vendors at ginawang parking ung inalisan ng mga vendors.

hmmmm? improvement ba ang tamang tawag dun? kasi ung mga sumasakay at bumababa sa mga PUV ang nagpapabagal sa daloy ng sasakayan.

[Calistro]

That church in Mindanao avenue.. people want to bring their cars for convenience but never wanted to pay for the construction of the multi level parking lot. Word is that the church is still paying for that lame excuse for a parking lot and the priest isn't focusing on paying that millions of debt. Dam corruption

[cardict]

ok lang ang kulang ang parking, ang pangit ay ung mga nagtitinda sa palibot ng simbahan. sana meron pari na lumabas ng simbahan at itapon ung mga paninda, at pagsabihan un mga tao na wag nyo gawing palenke ang tahanan ng Diyos Ama.

Sir,re enactment?hehehe

[Stigg ma]

nung tinayo kasi iyong simbahan hindi pa nag boom ang auto industry and most of the churches are pretty old to adapt to our modern world today...

[Stoner]

Prays hard, attends every religious event, but doesn't care if makaperwisyo ng ibang tao.

So much win.

[jick.cejoco]

They say God is everywhere, so you can worship anywhere. You don't have to show people you go to church to "pray".


Nakiki wi-fi lang

[erick_214]

Dapat mahkaroon na ng batas na kailangan na may parking ang mga church equivalent sa dame ng mga taong pupunta. Or at least kasya and 100 cars.

HaaaaY...It boils down again to our useless government..!

[falken]

Dapat mahkaroon na ng batas na kailangan na may parking ang mga church equivalent sa dame ng mga taong pupunta. Or at least kasya and 100 cars.

HaaaaY...It boils down again to our useless government..!

The church should be the one who reminds their parishioners about traffic rules.

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[noitimed]

dadaan pa naman ako mamaya dyan sa simbahan sa mindanao avenue.

idagdag ko na rin sa listahan yung everynation church dyan sa malapit sa market market sa 32nd street. Maraming parking lot sa market market serendra at the fort bakit pinapayagan sa kalye magpark yan. Nagtitipid sa parking fee? O tamad maglakad?

Oy mga churchgoers, nakakaperwisyo kayo.

[funkeemunkee]

+1 dun sa hassle na church sa Mindanao Ave near Tandang Sora. I try to avoid that area on Sundays.
Isa pang hassle church yung sa INC sa Mindanao din corner Cattleya malapit sa Proj 6. Thursday nights two lanes kinakain nila sa Mindanao Ave.