Bayani's U turn system: Do you agree with it?

[bbt]

everyone keeps complaining that u-turn slots are a headache because of swerving, pero now that a system has been implemented that minimizes swerving (u turns below flyovers only in libis) rinereklamo naman yung layo! hehe some people are never satisfied

i agree with oldblue. its not the u turn slots that cause traffic, but jeepneys and puvs. kahit sa libis area, pagkalampas nung jeepney bottlenecks sa eastwood gumagaan na ang traffic. kapag konti lang ang jeepney, you can really see the benefit of u turn slots kasi relaxed and steady speed lang ang pag-drive, unlike with stoplights where you have to stop every now and then.

[Galactus]

We've been complaining day in and day out of the traffic and I believe that the U-turn system is the only solution that made a major effect in the reduction of traffic since the advent of the flyovers.

Of course, it is not a perfect system, but now I can't blame the MMDA for doing nothing to alleviate the traffic in MM. At least it reduced the number of stop lights that will definitely cause traffice jams. You just wished that a lot of drivers would know how to use the u-turns effectively. One major concern is that most drivers turn immediately once they reach the u-turn, thus when they reach the other lane, they have to wait for a break in the oncoming traffic whereas MMDA had already blocked off a lane for the cars managing the u-turn.

My concern more is on the safety aspect. Personally, the U-Turn system is a good idea, but the concrete barriers are terrible. Marami nang namatay, partly na rin dahil may pagkakaskasero yung motorista, but mainly because when the barriers were designed, safety was not included.

1. For barriers with painted arrows, hindi naman reflectorized yung paint. Useless pag
gabi or heavy downpours. You can only see it 5 secs. before you smash into one.
2. No reflectorized lights (parang cat's eye).
3. No road paint or reflectorized signage, marking that the road merges into one, or that
a U-Turn slot is approaching.
4. For certain areas, esp. those which recorded fatalities, siguro better na fiberglass or
plastic barriers na lang ang gamitin, instead of concrete. Sometimes kasi, may
umuusling bakal pa, at walang pintura.

Lastly, they should ensure the areas approaching U-Turn slots are well-lighted.

[Flagg]

I never hit no barrier cuz I'm careful... cars have headlights... use them.

The U-turns have proven to be a great boon to me, as a motorist.

I think there's one small improvement to be made: Put a long pink fence on the sidewalks across U-turns... that way, no more PUV stops, at least until the end of the fence.

For those who think that the traffic light system is put to waste... take a course on cost management specifically on the cost-benefit analysis of non-performing assets... then you will understand.

BF for President!

[Yoda]

Why can't we be made to follow traffic rules and regulations? Kasi pasaway tayo? Walang disiplina? IMO, no. The problem is with enforcement. Why do we magically turn into law abiding motorists while abroad? Takot lang nating mahuli, which is exactly the point.

So now, instead of strictly enforcing traffic rules, we have U-turns. Does it work? It depends. What's the tradeoff? Safety. Is it worth it? You decide.

[basti08]

not at all times. lalo na pag malayo ang iikutan.
case in point: i always go to obrero st in bagumbayan, libis in my mom's office. the u-turn slot that i usually approach is the one past the shopwise libis, then all of a sudden, the MMDA closed ALL the u-turn slots, whether going north or south of C5 from the C5-Katips Flyover until the Ortigas ext Flyover. They closed 3 u-turn slots in front of Ford Libis, in front of Shopwise and the one past the Green meadows. It really sucks, cause in the end, traffic pa din sa ilalim ng flyover sa only u-turn slot na tinira nila.

Not a good move MMDA. IMO

[X-isle]

sometimes in some areas okay na okay siya, sometimes in some areas not really okay... but for me ung sa may naia area okay yung ginawa nila na tinanggal ung stoplights and ginawang uturn slots, now smooth flowing na kahit na rush hour, ang nagkulang lang sa mmda eh ung 4 ung uturn slots 2 lang ung may barricade, ung 2 pa wala so hence it makes some barumbadong sugapang kaskasero takes up the outer lang just to make a u-turn, making the lane they occupied non passable to vehicles not making a u-turn...

[caloyski5]

ang napapansin ko na lang palang "bottlenecks" ngayon diyan sa stretch ng libis na yan are the pedestrian croossings...sana may pedestrian overpasses na..are you listening BF? ;)

[BoEinG_747]

bali-baligtadin pa din, jeepney saka puv pa din problema! hindi u-turn. kaya nag-lock sa libis dahil sa mga jeepney before eastwood and jeepney before flyover

ito ata talaga malaking problema..kahit hindi rush hour sila nag bibigay ng traffic,dito lang sa congressional road kaya nag traffic sa Uturn ng EDSA sa tapat ng Iglesia Ni kristo dahil doon sa mga Bus at Jeepney .nag aabang ng Pasahero papuntang Project 8 ang NOVA..
ang mg aenforcer panay whistle at sensyas lang tagal naman umabante mga bus at jeepney may protection nila

[blue1108]

i agree, kelangn tlga e patinuin ang pag enforce ng traffic rules. kya lng nmn tlga hindi nababawasan mga problema dahil kulang sa disiplina karamihan ng drivers lalo na ng mga PUVs. tama si sir mbeige, isa lng tong band aid sa totoong problema. discipline and tlgang dapat mg improve....

[Djerms]

I am for the closing of the libis U-turn slots. BTW, the division of the road in Marcos Hi-way (going to Sta Lucia) is so effective also.

[mbeige]

Traffic problems (vehicles and pedestrians alike) stem from lack of discipline. Look at the pedestrians who just cross the streets, their argument is that the crosswalks are too far or that nobody yields to them. That is why overpasses are built. But look at the goons who rob people of cell phones, iPods, etc. Where do they wait? At the overpasses of course, because that is where people are most concentrated. So now people are forced to jaywalk just to avoid goons as well as for convenience, but we all know that is downright dangerous.

Look at the vehicular traffic problems. First is too much vehicles for the given road space. Second is the lack of discipline of drivers. Third is the lack of enforcement of MMDA people. To prevent the slowing of traffic, or to create a more streamlined flow, the U-turn slots were created. But this escalated their lack of discipline as mentioned by several examples like when people from the rightmost lanes swerve into the leftmost lanes and block vehicles traveling straight just so they can cross at the U turn slots. PUVs hog the right lanes for passengers, the fast lane is essentially eliminated, so you now have a zig-zag pattern. MMDA people do not care or might use this to their advantage especially when people make a U turn at the wrong slots or when the bottleneck causes accidents (the rules for making U turns never had good exposure prior to the U turn slot implementation).

I think BF has to primarily cater to the pedestrian and vehicular disciplines first before making structural changes. This is so that pedestrians can have peace of mind when crossing, that drivers will have peace of mind when driving straight, and there would be no need to use taxpayer money for building overpasses or U turn slots. Like I said, it is just a bandaid solution to a deep wound.

[oldblue]

i am for C5 to be free of jeepney franchise like EDSA. even in the Taguig/Kalayaan bottleneck, malaki ang contribution ng mga jeepneys plying market market to taguig ba sila or pasig sa traffic

sunday is the best meter kung gano kagaling ang U-turn slots sa C5. kasi less jeepney.

Ateneo u-turn slot is however, one of a kind. biased ang pagkaka-position dun to serve the future elites. yan ang problema dyan. it's so nice that I'm out of that area for good and for life.

[bbt]

Ateneo u-turn slot is however, one of a kind. biased ang pagkaka-position dun to serve the future elites. yan ang problema dyan. it's so nice that I'm out of that area for good and for life.

i think kaya ganun ang positioning kasi ateneo and miriam naman talaga ang may pinakamalakng volume of traffic along katipunan in fact, kung pansinin mo yung mga exits from these schools, may mga barriers din na linagay ang mmda para di makaka swerve ang mga lumalabas towards the nearest u turn. you'll have to travel the length of katipunan and slowly switch lanes until you reach the next slot.

[ess]

i am for C5 to be free of jeepney franchise like EDSA. even in the Taguig/Kalayaan bottleneck, malaki ang contribution ng mga jeepneys plying market market to taguig ba sila or pasig sa traffic

sunday is the best meter kung gano kagaling ang U-turn slots sa C5. kasi less jeepney.

Ateneo u-turn slot is however, one of a kind. biased ang pagkaka-position dun to serve the future elites. yan ang problema dyan. it's so nice that I'm out of that area for good and for life.

OR at least try to control that frikkin Jeepney terminal just before the Eastwood entrance (sa tabi ng Citibank Building). Those damned jeepneys frequently occupy up to three lanes in C5 while waiting for passengers. I'm sure that terminal is one of the main cause for C5 getting backed up as far as Toyota Libis.

Usually, after I get passed that area, traffic flows really smooth...until I get to the flyover. But that's another story.

[XTO]

Generally, I’m in favor of the U-turn system. Less beating the yellow, red etc. Favorable also to those who are lost by just circling around if they happen to overshoot hehehe. as long as you’re careful enough when approaching the barriers there would be no accident. The problem is a lot of drivers drive like hell esp at night without knowing what’s ahead basta maluwag sige tira! kaya ayun! Gulat na lang sila nakapatong na sila sa barriers. If you’re not familiar with the area its not an idiot thing to slow down and observe.

[oldblue]

i think kaya ganun ang positioning kasi ateneo and miriam naman talaga ang may pinakamalakng volume of traffic along katipunan in fact, kung pansinin mo yung mga exits from these schools, may mga barriers din na linagay ang mmda para di makaka swerve ang mga lumalabas towards the nearest u turn. you'll have to travel the length of katipunan and slowly switch lanes until you reach the next slot.

last time kasi nagpunta ako, mayrun u-turn in between mirriam and ateneo. sana lagay na lang isa u-turn bago mag-lavista just after mirriam.

tinanggal na ba? di ko talaga makita sense noon kumbakit may u-turn less than 50 meters away from ateneo exit unless the powers that be wanted it to be there

same as di ko maintindihan kumbakit may sariling service road ang ateneo, tapos nakasiksik ang publiko sa 3-lanes tapos sa mirriam eh back to 5 lanes ulet.

[basti08]

yup, like what caloyski5 said, kelangan magkaroon na ng pedestrian overpass sa libis/c5.
tatanggalan mo nga ng u-turn slot para mabilis ang takbo ng kotse, magpapatawid ka naman ng tao? ok lang kayo MMDA? ;)
i remember nung dumalaw dito isang foreigner na bisita ng tatay ko dati, pag daan namen sa commonwealth ave. sabi ng gringo "unbelievable! a 5-laner with a pedestrian lane?" we just smiled and replied "only in the Philippines!"

[bbt]

last time kasi nagpunta ako, mayrun u-turn in between mirriam and ateneo. sana lagay na lang isa u-turn bago mag-lavista just after mirriam.

tinanggal na ba? di ko talaga makita sense noon kumbakit may u-turn less than 50 meters away from ateneo exit unless the powers that be wanted it to be there

same as di ko maintindihan kumbakit may sariling service road ang ateneo, tapos nakasiksik ang publiko sa 3-lanes tapos sa mirriam eh back to 5 lanes ulet.

yup, may u-turn nga in between miriam and ateneo, but the mmda has now installed concrete barriers at the school exits para hindi mag swerve ang mga tao. may u-turn na din right in front of la vista, likewise, may barriers rin para hindi mag swerve ang palabas ng lavista gate. i guess mmda just put as many u turns as possible to even out congestion throughout the road. currently, may ongoing road widening din sa dulo ng katipunan going into up/balara, para mabawasan ang congestion since this is usually a bottleneck area.

as for the ateneo service road, syempre right naman nila na wag magpadaan, kasi its their land and its for the safety na rin of the students. kahit nga ngayon na closed to the public ay marami pa rin akong nababalitaan na break-ins sa mga naka park na kotse dun. also, may parking area rin sa service road na to, so i guess the ateneo admin is just keeping the safety of the students' cars in mind

actually, malaki nga ang cooperation ng ateneo with the govt sa katipunan. kung tingnan mo ang mga pedestrian overpass, you'll see that theyre built on ateneo property. also, afaik the admu security staff sometimes patrols the overpassess at night to ensure safety. kapag may accidents sa katipunan, the security also helps out with documentation and taking pictures.

[cutedoc]

the u turn slots are good, they minimizes traffic, the problems are the PUV that pile up and create traffics, they should be given proper disciplinary action and so are the pedestrian and the common tao ridding PUV.

there are a proper way of unloading and loading the PUV follow them! dont stop wherever you wish to as only in the philippines does this happen, a proper drop off zone should be strictly implemented.

[monmendoza]

If you were driving along Marcos Highway and Imelda Ave. before BF then you would really feel that BF is heaven sent. He solve the problem in Imelda Ave. Marcos Highway. Yes the Uturn slots is a brilliant solution to our
traffic problems. Among the MMDA chairmen, siya lang yata ang nagiisip.