The All New Ford Eco-Sport

[freeloader]

Anyone bought the M/T, any feedback? TIA

[justin27]

Parang mali, hindi po ba DCT ang gamit ng powershift ng ford, not CVT?

DCT is Ford. Was comparing what happened to Honda when they used the CVT on the City which had issues reason why they reverted to the traditional ATs. This might happen to Ford but they're sticking to it & improving.

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[dandang]

So has the issue of the automatic transmission been resolved? Now i am having second thoughts about the trend a/t baka mag toyota avanza na lang ako. In avanza i have not heard of any problems or is there?

[dr. d]

So has the issue of the automatic transmission been resolved? Now i am having second thoughts about the trend a/t baka mag toyota avanza na lang ako. In avanza i have not heard of any problems or is there?

the only issue i have heard of the avanza, is its fuel in-efficiency, at least for the 1.5 AT.. officemate claims to struggle to do 7 km/li in the city.

[dandang]

the only issue i have heard of the avanza, is its fuel in-efficiency, at least for the 1.5 AT.. officemate claims to struggle to do 7 km/li in the city.

Well i guess fuel efficiency is another issue but not a factory defect unlike the powershift dct which seems like a headache when one encounters it.

Avanza 1.5 AT is my next option. Probably a better driving habit can improve gas mileage.

[e2romo]

So has the issue of the automatic transmission been resolved? Now i am having second thoughts about the trend a/t baka mag toyota avanza na lang ako. In avanza i have not heard of any problems or is there?

Not yet, they're still working in perfecting the Powershift technology. I would stay away on any of their Powershift variant until there's an official confirmation from a trusted auto review magazine saying Ford has perfected the technology.

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[cktlcmd]

In avanza i have not heard of any problems or is there?

I read here in Tsikot in the Avanza Forums before they redesigned the Avanza, that it has NO SIDE IMPACT BEAMS... so the separation between you and the other cars are a thin sheet of metal... I don't know if this is true with today's model though.

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[dandang]

Reading from ford club forums philipplines, it seems the sound is normal being a different technology from the conventional AT.

[AG4]

I read here in Tsikot in the Avanza Forums before they redesigned the Avanza, that it has NO SIDE IMPACT BEAMS... so the separation between you and the other cars are a thin sheet of metal... I don't know if this is true with today's model though.
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I think the Avanza has side impact beams sandwiched somewhere in those skinny doors. :P
Like the Wigo, the Avanza (Daihatsu Xenia) is an "affordable" product by PT Astra Daihatsu Motor Indonesia. I've ridden in an Avanza taxi and the first thing I noticed were the light flimsy feeling doors, so-so NVH, and of course the body roll of the vehicle.
I checked out the higher trim Avanza and it really feels like a cheaper vehicle than the EcoSport, I wasn't surprised really since the Avanza is marketed as a small AUV.

The EcoSport was developed to different standards since it was going to be marketed in countries with stricter safety standards (its a near-global vehicle). Although Ford in Brazil headed the development of the EcoSport (B-segment crossovers SUVs are very popular in Brazil), they had input from other branches of Ford.

[dandang]

I think the Avanza has side impact beams sandwiched somewhere in those skinny doors. :P
Like the Wigo, the Avanza (Daihatsu Xenia) is an "affordable" product by PT Astra Daihatsu Motor Indonesia. I've ridden in an Avanza taxi and the first thing I noticed were the light flimsy feeling doors, so-so NVH, and of course the body roll of the vehicle.
I checked out the higher trim Avanza and it really feels like a cheaper vehicle than the EcoSport, I wasn't surprised really since the Avanza is marketed as a small AUV.

The EcoSport was developed to different standards since it was going to be marketed in countries with stricter safety standards (its a near-global vehicle). Although Ford in Brazil headed the development of the EcoSport (B-segment crossovers SUVs are very popular in Brazil), they had input from other branches of Ford.

I agree avanza has that cheap feel and the looks is really wanting. But it is the closest to the ecosport in terms of price and ride height which is my main criteria for getting a vehicle. If not only for the reported transmission problem i have no doubts that ecosport is the better choice handsdown.

[Walter]

The closest to the Toyota Avanza would be the Chevrolet Spin and Suzuki Ertiga.

[AG4]

*double post*

[AG4]

I agree avanza has that cheap feel and the looks is really wanting. But it is the closest to the ecosport in terms of price and ride height which is my main criteria for getting a vehicle. If not only for the reported transmission problem i have no doubts that ecosport is the better choice handsdown.

I test drove the Ecosport Powershift and had no issues with it, it not shifting as smooth as a torque converter AT/slushbox at low speeds wasn't as bad as I thought it was. Ford has made a number of updates on the Powershift's software over the years.
The best thing for you is to test drive the car and see for yourself. What's more important is what you (the person who will drive it) thinks.

[Paulien Sanchez]

i had been driving ecosport powershift 6 speed for more than 2 months logging in 5k kms plus, comparing with other vehicles i drove montero, fortuners, civic, city, vios,

Iba yung respond ng transmission sa powershift 6 speed DCT, sensitive sa gas pedal changes it change to lower gears to high depende kung nilubog yung gas pedal, somewhat prang hirap or underpower but hindi naman nasa transmission

During long trips at expressway it run 140km/h on 3,500 rpm (6th gear) and 165km/h 4,200 rpm (6th gear) redline 6,300rpm
the DCT tranmission changes it to 5th gear pag nasasagad gas pedal pra humatak speed, but i think kaya high speed 180km/h above on 6th gear mabilis sa rectahan based on observation, naunahan pa yung bagong DMAX running 150km/h

[CVT]

Of course, SUVs are better as I mentioned. Right? So, are cars better than the crossover on potholes?

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Sorry bro.,- I did not realize that your daily drive are roads of potholes....

Enjoy your ride!...



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[dandang]

Sir paulien, how about hearing any strange sound or something unusual?

[Paulien Sanchez]

Sir paulien, how about hearing any strange sound or something unusual?

So far i havent heard any strange sounds, what i only hear when im still not yet familiar with DCT is when it automatically changes transmission, somewhat not that noisy and it cant be heard all the time

[justin27]

Sorry bro.,- I did not realize that your daily drive are roads of potholes....

Enjoy your ride!...



“Familiarity breeds awe”
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Yup. I do drive on a lot of potholes because of the freaking politics on as to who's responsible on fixing the roads, and a lot of road widenings.

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[dandang]

So far i havent heard any strange sounds, what i only hear when im still not yet familiar with DCT is when it automatically changes transmission, somewhat not that noisy and it cant be heard all the time

Thats good to hear. I hope it runs well in the next five years or so. Thats how long i intend to keep the ecosport barring no defect appears.

[captneo]

Hi to All,
Newbie here.
Me and my wife are in search of our first new car. And we are considering Ecosport Trend MT, aside from Yaris and Rio.

These are our thoughts we are pondering on:
Why Ecosport MT? it has this "SUV" feel that my wife wants me to get, and it's ride height, and I want an MT.
Yaris 1.3 E? My wife wants to have an AT that would fit in or lower than our budget. Similar reason for Rio.

Why not Ecosport? I have read horrowing comments and reviews of ford and this unit. especially those AT units. I just thought the MT units might have the same problems.
Why not Yaris? Ride is too low, and the car is small. Wife wants to give me that tall ride.
Why not Rio? daming taxi na rio.

I know i should get a test ride on all of these cars, I want to zero-in on the Ecosport. However, I would like to ask our fellow forumers on how is the feeling of riding a MT Ecosport. How was it compared to the AT? for those who got their MT units, can you please share your experience?
Thanks a lot!