2012 Ford Ranger

[Tj_abs]

Hustle talaga pag my kaso, time consuming na magastos pa but thats the only remedy ( to file a suit ) if you want to file a formal complaint against car manufacturer. I can feel what happen to sir yebo ( like what happened to my fiesta dami sira ). It so happen na hindi ako nag backthread at hindi nabasa post ni sir yebo. Btw thanks for sharing

[minicarph]

1st things first we are here in the phils... Wala ka sa America, iba ang economy dun... Tao, and mindset, We're worlds apart...

2nd-- power dept. -- When it comes to hp more powerful ang gasoline engine compare to a diesel--- but trucks paguusapan natin ha..!! Pickup thread din naman ito--- gasoline engines of similar displacement still have an advantage in peak power, but the gap has narrowed to about 20 or 30 hp but on the torque department of diesels to their gasoline counterparts has gap from about 80 to 100 lb-ft! to about 300 to 400 lb-ft or more.

What do you want when you're towing and hauling? Torque, or hp?

Syempre torque...!!

Question? Bakit kaya 99% of pickup trucks sold here in the phils is diesel? Because we truck users usually use our pickup trucks for towing and hauling... torque ang ample hp kailangan namin, Hindi horsepower sister...!

3rd Americans don't like torque? For a truck -- Full of b.s. Ito.. No further explanations needed..

4th Noise -Diesel engines have evolved over the last few years in almost every area, but perhaps the most impressive strides have been made in the area of noise, vibration and harshness, or NVH. May noise cancellation pa... Read the reviews about the everest and the ranger...
The biggest factor here is the advance and sophisticated injection technology.. W/c made Diesel engines nearly as quiet as their gasoline counterpart....

Mukang excited ka pa din diesels glenn. Ako kasi, di na. Cge na nga, ok na ford diesel. Actually, japanese quality naman ford diesel when thr first gen ford ranger was relelased, mazda yun sa pagkaalam ko

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[glenn manikis]

Mukang excited ka pa din diesels glenn. Ako kasi, di na. Cge na nga, ok na ford diesel. Actually, japanese quality naman ford diesel when thr first gen ford ranger was relelased, mazda yun sa pagkaalam ko

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Hindi naman... Depende kasi sa needs---

may gasoline cars din ako-- mazda3 sky active and focus...

Kung papalarin... I want the focus turbo or civic turbo- for my wifey...

[yebo]

di yata nag post dito si tolitsreloaded? his 2.2 engine is totally ruined yata and already out of warranty. looks like the oil pump misprimed and the whole engine ran oil-starved. sabi nya sa akin parang seized pistons, con rods and crankshaft plus damaged accessories and turbo.

remember guys, both 2.2 and 3.2 have variable capacity oil pumps that have a tendency to misprime when the oil drain time exceed 10 minutes. DO NOT DRAIN OIL FOR MORE THAN 10 MINUTES OR THE OIL PUMP CAN LOSE PRIME AND CAUSE THE ENGINE TO RUN OIL STARVED. NO AMOUNT OF RUNNING THE ENGINE WILL PRIME THE PUMP. IT HAS TO BE PRIMED BY POURING OIL INTO THE PUMP.

I will post here again the alert so you can show to your service advisors next time you go for a PM. and make sure you remind them everytime.

hanapin ko muna sa files ko...

[Djerms]

di yata nag post dito si tolitsreloaded? his 2.2 engine is totally ruined yata and already out of warranty. looks like the oil pump misprimed and the whole engine ran oil-starved. sabi nya sa akin parang seized pistons, con rods and crankshaft plus damaged accessories and turbo.

remember guys, both 2.2 and 3.2 have variable capacity oil pumps that have a tendency to misprime when the oil drain time exceed 10 minutes. DO NOT DRAIN OIL FOR MORE THAN 10 MINUTES OR THE OIL PUMP CAN LOSE PRIME AND CAUSE THE ENGINE TO RUN OIL STARVED. NO AMOUNT OF RUNNING THE ENGINE WILL PRIME THE PUMP. IT HAS TO BE PRIMED BY POURING OIL INTO THE PUMP.

I will post here again the alert so you can show to your service advisors next time you go for a PM. and make sure you remind them everytime.

hanapin ko muna sa files ko...

So kung oil pump ang problema totally hindi na tatakbo ang engine bro? Just checking kasi yung sa ranger ko tumatakbo naman pero very erratic and a very noisy sound coming from turbo. All hoses are diagnosed okay. Warranty officer will request turbo replacement. Weird thing is no change in turbo design daw. Parang pinapalabas na factory defect. Akala ko kasi may new turbo na in place of the turbo design defect ng mga unang rangers.

[yebo]

tatakbo pero very rough. ang problema eh di yata nadedetect ng oil pressure sensor kung misprimed ang oil pump. may oil naman kasi pero kulang.

may new turbo sir (according to mazda q. ave.) and there is also an upgrade to the ecu mapping that limits ng turbo to below a certain speed.

di ko ma post yung attachments, am using a phone kasi. but i already posted both of them here before, the alert for the turbo and alwrt for the oil pump.

[yebo]

need a volunteer to pm me their email so i can email the alerts and kindly post them here. i don't have a lap top or desk top on hand. btw the alerts i have are for the 3.2 engine but i am sure i have seen aimilar alerts for the 2.2. i only kept copies of the alerts for the 3.2 since my bt50 was a 3.2

[dcph172]

Yebo is this the one? I hope you can find a copy regarding the 2.2 as thats the one i have. This advisory just covers the 3.2. Why didn't they just say that its for both engine kasi? They share ba the same oil pump?


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[glenn manikis]

Salamat sa information-- sir yebo and dcph172..

I think pati2.2 ganun din oil pump

[Djerms]

Yebo is this the one? I hope you can find a copy regarding the 2.2 as thats the one i have. This advisory just covers the 3.2. Why didn't they just say that its for both engine kasi? They share ba the same oil pump?


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What an inconvenient feature. Pagagandahin pa nila saying its a "Feature". Galing talaga ng ford. Sa lahat ng mga sasakyan ko ngayon lang ako naka experience ng "feature" na ito. Another thing to watch out. So hindi lang pala duct tape ang dapat kong bitbitin sa ranger. Dapat pala may timer din. LOL.

[glenn manikis]

What an inconvenient feature. Pagagandahin pa nila saying its a "Feature". Galing talaga ng ford. Sa lahat ng mga sasakyan ko ngayon lang ako naka experience ng "feature" na ito. Another thing to watch out. So hindi lang pala duct tape ang dapat kong bitbitin sa ranger. Dapat pala may timer din. LOL.

Actually madami na din gumagamit ng variable oil pump... Or Vanes po ata tawag Dyan.. And to my recollection may isuzu engine na gumagamit nyan... Not sure Lang djerms ha.. Pero I'll check din...

[Djerms]

Actually madami na din gumagamit ng variable oil pump... Or Vanes po ata tawag Dyan.. And to my recollection may isuzu engine na gumagamit nyan... Not sure Lang djerms ha.. Pero I'll check din...

I see pero hindi naman siguro nila nirerequire ang pagpalit ng langis maximum 10minutes........

Debatable for some siguro pero I find the 10minute oil change on the quick side. Madami dami mayayari nito after warranty kung sa labas magpapagawa. Hindi naman lahat nakabasa ng service bulletin na yan and hindi naman lahat car enthusiast na tambay sa tsikot.

Kung sabagay, sa lahat naman ng car dealers wala na pakialam after warranty eh. Yun lang dapat malaman ng mga ranger owners na may ganitong service bulletin.

[yebo]

Yes that's the one. Both the 3.2 and 2.2 have variable oil pumps.

[glenn manikis]

I see pero hindi naman siguro nila nirerequire ang pagpalit ng langis maximum 10minutes........

Debatable for some siguro pero I find the 10minute oil change on the quick side. Madami dami mayayari nito after warranty kung sa labas magpapagawa. Hindi naman lahat nakabasa ng service bulletin na yan and hindi naman lahat car enthusiast na tambay sa tsikot.

Kung sabagay, sa lahat naman ng car dealers wala na pakialam after warranty eh. Yun lang dapat malaman ng mga ranger owners na may ganitong service bulletin.

Ayun nga Lang.. Ang maaring mangyari...

Pero yung sakin kasi.. At iba na kakilala ko na nagpapa change oil sa power torque congressional, I don't have exact numbers Pero Sabi dun madami na daw silang na change oil na Naka ranger 2.2 and 3.2-- kung patuluin pa nila 30mins. Pero Wala naman daw nagka problema sa engine or turbo.. Ganun din dun Sabi sa may shell timog--

If that's the case above- percentage of damage engine and turbo should rise to proportion of the majority... Pero so far its still less than .001 percent ang nagka turbo problems... Sa engine bihirang bihirA... One or two ang magka problema... Out of 30k units sold..

It could be a mechanical failure sa vanes oil pump na yun... It could also happen to any car brand using the same technology....

I feel sorry for you and yebo, for what happened sa car nyo.. Sana isolated case Lang... Or all new pa kasi yung t6 at the time nabile nyo... Kaya naging guinea pig kayo..

Ang problemang malaki Lang talaga sa ford eh parang Wala silang ginawang recall sa mga unang labas na ranger.. Maybe to their mind.. Bago naman masira yun.. Out of warrNty na... Maybe Lang ha...

[glenn manikis]

Ang nakikita po palang problema Dyan is the OIL pressure sender.. Kung hindi bumubomba ng tama yung oil pump dapat mag Binigay ng signal yan... Possible electrical ang isang problema nito.. Or mismong oil pressure switch...

[Djerms]

Ayun nga Lang.. Ang maaring mangyari...

Pero yung sakin kasi.. At iba na kakilala ko na nagpapa change oil sa power torque congressional, I don't have exact numbers Pero Sabi dun madami na daw silang na change oil na Naka ranger 2.2 and 3.2-- kung patuluin pa nila 30mins. Pero Wala naman daw nagka problema sa engine or turbo.. Ganun din dun Sabi sa may shell timog--

If that's the case above- percentage of damage engine and turbo should rise to proportion of the majority... Pero so far its still less than .001 percent ang nagka turbo problems... Sa engine bihirang bihirA... One or two ang magka problema... Out of 30k units sold..

It could be a mechanical failure sa vanes oil pump na yun... It could also happen to any car brand using the same technology....

I feel sorry for you and yebo, for what happened sa car nyo.. Sana isolated case Lang... Or all new pa kasi yung t6 at the time nabile nyo... Kaya naging guinea pig kayo..

Ang problemang malaki Lang talaga sa ford eh parang Wala silang ginawang recall sa mga unang labas na ranger.. Maybe to their mind.. Bago naman masira yun.. Out of warrNty na... Maybe Lang ha...

No worries bro. Thanks for the concern. Pasasaan pa at matatapos din naman itong problema. Yeah yan din talaga ang downside ng pagbili ng all new, sasaluhin mo lahat ng initial glitches. Yung Fortuner ko last MMC yun 2015 model. Okay naman kaso ang boring naman sobra. May intersection na bawat kalye naka fortuner kami eh hehehe.

[glenn manikis]

Djerms pa check mo yung oil pressure sensor ng unit mo kung gumagana ng tama.. Dapat siguro may representative ka.. IMO dapat kasi nag warning yun...

[glenn manikis]

Dapat yan nag wawarning Pag may changes sa viscosity ng oil and pressure..

[Djerms]

Djerms pa check mo yung oil pressure sensor ng unit mo kung gumagana ng tama.. Dapat siguro may representative ka.. IMO dapat kasi nag warning yun...

Wala naman warning and wala naman CEL din. Im hoping na hindi naman yun ang problema. Kung turbo lang, madali nalang yun sasalpakan nalang ng new turbo. Pero kung oil pump, based on the bulletin medyo nakakatakot. Wala naman nabanggit sa diagnosis na ganun but will have it checked also. Thanks.

[glenn manikis]

Ayun Nga ️Sir... Baka may problemA oil sensor... Kaya nagka problema turbo... Kung may settings... Palagay mo settings 1.4bar--- or 1.5bar-- or Ano na normal settings Sa ranger.. Anything below 1.1bar makaka damage na Kasi sa engine yun..

Kung nababago settings Pwede Nyo lagay NG mataas muna settings to make sure Lang na gumagana...