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    #6961
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    so you mean a diesel mechanic like me who has been working on turbocharged caterpillar, wartsila and cummins engines for the last 24 years don't know how to take care of the engine in my former bt50? btw, it was my 5th common-rail vgt turbo-ed vehicle. e di sana lahat nung 5 na yun nasiraan na ng turbo because what you implied in your post is that operator error lang ang cause? nago-overhaul nga ako ng turbo e tapos di ako marunong magingat ng turbo? and mind you even when the first turbo did not have problems yet i cooled down a minimum of 3 minutes before shutting down.

    my bt50's turbo was replaced 3 times. the original and second replacement were gen 3, the 3rd replacement which was good until i sold it was gen 3.5.

    there are always lemons. swerte ka lang di natapat sa iyo. let those people who suffered and have a reason to complain speak out and not belittle their grievances. binenta ko na nga in frustration. i lost almost all the payments i made in 18 months. computin mo 43k x 18 = P774k plus cost of aftermarket parts. that is how much i lost. i have a reason to complain. exagerated?
    With all due respect sir, im not questioning nor arguing with your problem. I dont even questioning on how you take care of your vehicle and your field of expertise about diesel engines for 24 years. Im just stating my own opinion following the message of sir glenn. Besides there are many reasons why turbo engines didnt last long and others are too technical to speak with. Yes, i agree with you.my mga lemons talaga but there is a legal process and remedies against the car dealer/manufacturer and if in case sa akin nangyari yan, as a lawyer, I will file a civil case and damages against the car manufacturer as long as it falls with the provision and requisites of lemon law. Btw, thanks for sharing

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    #6962
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    double post

    tumigil na nga ako mag-post ng complaints ko pero nakakainis lang makabasa ng mga post na ganyan kaya sumagot ako dito. ako pa may kasalanan? keep your BS to yourself!
    Instead of posting your complaints here in tsikot, my legal advice is much better to file a case against mazda regarding your lemon vehicle.

    Learn to be open minded and respectful to peoples opinion, even when you don't agree.
    Fyi, this thread is ford ranger and not mazda bt50 thread.

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    #6963
    If you don't know it yet, Mazda BT-50 is a clone of the Ford Ranger. It's easy to tell people to file this case and that but in reality it's such a hassle, not all of us are lawyers. Lemon law is not made to benefit consumers, 20% depreciation per year if the company decides to buy back your lemon unit.

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    #6964
    Quote Originally Posted by Tj_abs View Post
    Instead of posting your complaints here in tsikot, my legal advice is much better to file a case against mazda regarding your lemon vehicle.

    Learn to be open minded and respectful to peoples opinion, even when you don't agree.
    Fyi, this thread is ford ranger and not mazda bt50 thread.
    the lemon law is just too much weighed in favor of the car companies. 20% depreciation per year plus whatever other faults they find (e.g., scratches on the paint) and you'll end up getting nada. kahit exchange ng unit, they will give you a brand new one but still charge you the depreciation of your old unit. so parang bumili ka na din ng bago ulit. na-compute na namin yan, result is the same - go for lemon law, pay depreciation costs and have added expense of lawyer fees or sell the unit and pay up the bank loan, same din lang. you just end up with your down payment. kung bagong-bago pa like 1 month old lang nagloko na, yun in favor sa buyer kase no depreciation. but after 1 year (and in my case 18 months), talo ka na.

    t6 and bt50 have the same engine and transmission, same ecu, same everything but the skin. they have the same problems. pinapalayas mo ba ako from this thread? tanong lang ha kasi sabi mo t6 thread ito.

    you are the one who has no respect for other people's opinion eh. ikaw ang nag-dismiss ng opinion ng mga owners na may problema sa rides nila. basahin mo ulit yung post mo at baka kasi hindi mo naintindihan nung ti-nype mo. exagerated? don't know how to take care? e ano ba ibig sabihin mo dun kundi kasalanan pa ng mayari kung bakit nasira.

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    #6965
    Quote Originally Posted by Tj_abs View Post
    Instead of posting your complaints here in tsikot, my legal advice is much better to file a case against mazda regarding your lemon vehicle.

    Learn to be open minded and respectful to peoples opinion, even when you don't agree.
    Fyi, this thread is ford ranger and not mazda bt50 thread.
    the lemon law is just too much weighed in favor of the car companies. 20% depreciation per year plus whatever other faults they find (e.g., scratches on the paint) and you'll end up getting nada. kahit exchange ng unit, they will give you a brand new one but still charge you the depreciation of your old unit. so parang bumili ka na din ng bago ulit. na-compute na namin yan, result is the same - go for lemon law, pay depreciation costs and have added expense of lawyer fees or sell the unit and pay up the bank loan, same din lang. you just end up with your down payment. kung bagong-bago pa like 1 month old lang nagloko na, yun in favor sa buyer kase no depreciation. but after 1 year (and in my case 18 months), talo ka na.

    t6 and bt50 have the same engine and transmission, same ecu, same everything but the skin. they have the same problems. pinapalayas mo ba ako from this thread? tanong lang ha kasi sabi mo t6 thread ito.

    you are the one who has no respect for other people's opinion eh. ikaw ang nag-dismiss ng opinion ng mga owners na may problema sa rides nila. basahin mo ulit yung post mo at baka kasi hindi mo naintindihan nung ti-nype mo. exagerated? don't know how to take care? e ano ba ibig sabihin mo dun kundi kasalanan pa ng mayari kung bakit nasira.

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    #6966
    Quote Originally Posted by TholitzReloaded View Post
    Mine is a 2013 Ford Ranger XLT, ayaw na tumakbo bigla nalang nawalan ng hatak, may ilang ung oil can sa dashboard, nagtry ako pachange oil kala ko, baka madumi na langis totally di na umandar.
    a mis-primed variable oil pump? isa yan sa mga sakit ng gen 3 engine.

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    #6967
    Quote Originally Posted by Tj_abs View Post
    Instead of posting your complaints here in tsikot, my legal advice is much better to file a case against mazda regarding your lemon vehicle.

    Learn to be open minded and respectful to peoples opinion, even when you don't agree.
    Fyi, this thread is ford ranger and not mazda bt50 thread.
    Di mo ba alam na parehas ng bituka ng BT50 at Ranger? And yes parehas din sila ng defect. Surprise!!!

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    #6968
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    so you mean a diesel mechanic like me who has been working on turbocharged caterpillar, wartsila and cummins engines for the last 24 years don't know how to take care of the engine in my former bt50? btw, it was my 5th common-rail vgt turbo-ed vehicle. e di sana lahat nung 5 na yun nasiraan na ng turbo because what you implied in your post is that operator error lang ang cause? nago-overhaul nga ako ng turbo e tapos di ako marunong magingat ng turbo? and mind you even when the first turbo did not have problems yet i cooled down a minimum of 3 minutes before shutting down.

    my bt50's turbo was replaced 3 times. the original and second replacement were gen 3, the 3rd replacement which was good until i sold it was gen 3.5.

    there are always lemons. swerte ka lang di natapat sa iyo. let those people who suffered and have a reason to complain speak out and not belittle their grievances. binenta ko na nga in frustration. i lost almost all the payments i made in 18 months. computin mo 43k x 18 = P774k plus cost of aftermarket parts. that is how much i lost. i have a reason to complain. exagerated?
    Did you happen to use a race chip or anything similar on your BT50?

    I know someone had to replace its T6 turbo hose due to rupture or Crack.

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    #6969
    Quote Originally Posted by A-OK View Post
    Did you happen to use a race chip or anything similar on your BT50?

    I know someone had to replace its T6 turbo hose due to rupture or Crack.
    No, no mods on the engine. The only mods were just hid projectors tapped straight to the battery and a roll top cover. The warranty was intact, hid projectors were installed with permission from my service advisor. Di nga ako maka-mod kasi nasira agad yung turbo at 5300km, dami ko pa naman sana balak gagawin.

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    #6970
    After my 5th turbo arrived 6 month earlier ok na yung ranger ko. I'm using it almost everyday, almost mag 80k kms na in less than a year and half year. So I have 20k kms or 1year and half warranty pa (I hope wala nang problem). Hassle talaga mag claim nang warranty sa Ford either way I'm still loving the truck, still drive like new. Luckily, so far wala nang issue yung turbo after my 5th. Coolant hose was replaced (due to recall). Tire was already replaced (switch to ATs), will probably keep it for few years before selling it.

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    #6971
    Quote Originally Posted by Jadee View Post
    After my 5th turbo arrived 6 month earlier ok na yung ranger ko. I'm using it almost everyday, almost mag 80k kms na in less than a year and half year. So I have 20k kms or 1year and half warranty pa (I hope wala nang problem). Hassle talaga mag claim nang warranty sa Ford either way I'm still loving the truck, still drive like new. Luckily, so far wala nang issue yung turbo after my 5th. Coolant hose was replaced (due to recall). Tire was already replaced (switch to ATs), will probably keep it for few years before selling it.
    Yung kumpare ng tatay ko naka 3.2 sir na ranger. Nawasak turbo sa bulacan. It was so scary kasi pag overtake nya nawalan ng power. And the CASA told him na hanggat nasa warranty papalitan daw nila turbo. Hehe talo customer.

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    #6972
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Every 10k pms... 1st PmS 10,000kms. nasa less than Php5,000, 2nd pms 20,000 kms. Less than php10,000, 30,000 kms. Sa labas Ko na pinalitan -fuel filter Php800, cabin filter php500-600- , air filter php1500, brake cleaning spray Lang binile ko... Change oil Lang sa casa... Usually pinapatangal ko Yung Mga hindi naman kailangan, like car wash, oil additive, etc. or before ko dalhin sa casa yung mga papalitan nila like ️Sir filter cabin filter, pinapalitan ko na sa labas... Para Pag bigay Sakin NG qoute... Sasabihin ko Lang ba napalitan na mga yan...
    sir glenn.saan nyo po nabili iyong fuel filter?.iyong sa akin kasi 1500 bili ko.tnx.

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    #6973
    Kay motor one Banawe--- nagkakabit din Sila dun.. Look for one of the owners Timothy David Po may FB din sya..

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    #6974
    Nandito din pala yung agente barbero, rolled into one..
    Last edited by glenn manikis; October 25th, 2015 at 08:59 AM.

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    #6975
    Quote Originally Posted by yebo View Post
    No, no mods on the engine. The only mods were just hid projectors tapped straight to the battery and a roll top cover. The warranty was intact, hid projectors were installed with permission from my service advisor. Di nga ako maka-mod kasi nasira agad yung turbo at 5300km, dami ko pa naman sana balak gagawin.
    Wala na sa warranty XLT ko. Wag sana bumigay. Already reached 27T km.

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    #6976
    Quote Originally Posted by glenn manikis View Post
    Kay motor one Banawe--- nagkakabit din Sila dun.. Look for one of the owners Timothy David Po may FB din sya..
    Thanks sir glenn for the info. Dyan na rin ako bili next tym laki ng difference compared sa fuel filter na nabili ko hehe.

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    #6977
    Quote Originally Posted by A-OK View Post
    Wala na sa warranty XLT ko. Wag sana bumigay. Already reached 27T km.
    Mine as well...

    Went to Tagaytay last weekend via TANAUAN-TALISAY, grabe pala ang curves and inclines dun.

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    #6978
    double post...Again!

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    #6979
    Just want to share so you'll know when same thing happens to your Ranger.

    Powertrain warning light turned on exactly before 50T kms sabay nag limp mode while driving along NLEX I stopped at fuel station to reset after restarting nawala warning light so I continued to drive but I noticed na naging ma-usok tailpipe while cruising at 80kph and at less than 2,000rpm so I went straight to the dealership and have it checked they found out that there's a crack on the hose after the intercooler. Just in time before expiration of warranty, they replaced the hose with no charge. According to them the cause of smoke belching is the rich air / fuel mixture due too reduced volume of air supplied by the turbo caused by the cracked hose. They also checked the turbo at walang nakitang problem, after repair nag road test kami and it drives like new again nawala rin yung usok sa tailpipe even at high speed.
    Sa mga out of warranty you might want to bring an extra hose lalo na kung madalas kayo mag long drive, anyway madali lang naman palitan flat screwdriver lang needed to remove 2 clamps mahirap din kasi ma-stranded or maging worst ang sira kapag pinilit i-drive ng malayo.

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    #6980
    Dapat kasi... Pipe ang nakakabit hindi hose Lang... Meron nabibile after-market stainless steel pipe..

2012 Ford Ranger