2012 Ford Ranger

[Hardright]

Regarding the spare key and remote i think the dealer keeps the spare if you bought the vehicle under installment.. hardright bought his cash..

Hahaha. Just in case the need to repossess the vehicle if you default on the loan.

[taraki17a]

hello may tanong ako:

1. Ano ba ibig sabihin ng parang "slippery when wet" na light ? pagnagneutral ako during downhill (ata) sya lumalabas then may tutunog na parang buzz na maliit. Curious lang.

2. Ano bang diesel ang dapat sa Ranger natin? Saang gas station maganda and ano effect from other diesel?

Thanks ng marami.

do you mean the icon?

Stability control (ESP) indicator
While driving, it flashes during activation of the system. After switching on the ignition, if it does not illuminate or illuminates continuously while driving, this indicates a malfunction. During a malfunction, the system switches off. Have the system checked by a properly trained technician as soon as possible.
If you switch ESP off, the warning lamp will flash twice and remain illuminated. The lamp will go out when you switch the system back on or when you switch the ignition off.

[clairenceh]

haha lumuwag na yung shifter ko, di na masyado masikip. dati ang hirap e sobrang tigas. lumuluwag na masarap na gamitin :naughty2:

[jut703]

Higher Euro rating (Euro IV, Euro V, and so on) means that the fuel has less sulfur particles, measured in ppm. Euro II is 500 ppm while Euro IV is 50 ppm.

It does not, however, automatically mean that fuels with higher Euro emission standards offer better performance or fuel economy versus Euro II diesels. There's the argument, however, that cleaner diesel lowers the chance for clogged injectors (which are very expensive to replace) for CRDi engines.

Thing is, cars that are brought to the PH market are already retuned to work with the diesel that we have here. Most of the diesel vehicles sold here function just as well on Euro II as they do on Euro IV diesel.

A lot of people clamor that using Euro IV diesel by the minor fuel brands offers a big boost in performance/fuel economy, but I have my reservations on it since there's always the possibility of a placebo effect since you "expect" the fuel to perform better. A single-blind test wherein someone else refuels for you would be nice, and probably the most objective way to do qualitative testing. Fuel economy can be quantitatively measured though, as long as it's done over several full tanks over the same route, since a single full tank comparison is usually prone to variance due to minor changes in traffic conditions, more than the fuel itself.

BTT: Does anyone know if AT Ranger XLT's are still available?

[fastrider]

Help, anyone here who has a checklist on the 20,000 PMS and how much did ford charge you? If you check the manual you won't see a preventive maintenance schedule and parts that need replacement and inspection. Most of the vehicles i owned before have a preventive maintenance schedule in their manual. TIA

[Djerms]

Higher Euro rating (Euro IV, Euro V, and so on) means that the fuel has less sulfur particles, measured in ppm. Euro II is 500 ppm while Euro IV is 50 ppm.

It does not, however, automatically mean that fuels with higher Euro emission standards offer better performance or fuel economy versus Euro II diesels. There's the argument, however, that cleaner diesel lowers the chance for clogged injectors (which are very expensive to replace) for CRDi engines.

Thing is, cars that are brought to the PH market are already retuned to work with the diesel that we have here. Most of the diesel vehicles sold here function just as well on Euro II as they do on Euro IV diesel.

A lot of people clamor that using Euro IV diesel by the minor fuel brands offers a big boost in performance/fuel economy, but I have my reservations on it since there's always the possibility of a placebo effect since you "expect" the fuel to perform better. A single-blind test wherein someone else refuels for you would be nice, and probably the most objective way to do qualitative testing. Fuel economy can be quantitatively measured though, as long as it's done over several full tanks over the same route, since a single full tank comparison is usually prone to variance due to minor changes in traffic conditions, more than the fuel itself.

BTT: Does anyone know if AT Ranger XLT's are still available?

Performance will still be based on cetane rating and booster affitives afaik. But its a big yes for less engine vibration and bettet emissions.

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[duramax_994]

Regarding the spare key and remote i think the dealer keeps the spare if you bought the vehicle under installment.. hardright bought his cash..

Hahaha. Just in case the need to repossess the vehicle if you default on the loan.

Does that mean we're gonna get a duplicate for both the remote key and spare after the car has been fully paid?

[renanyang]

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UU nga gabi pa ang travel ko from Calapan to Roxas hahabulin ko 1st trip ng RORO sa Roxas to Caticlan.

sir pwede nyo try yung roro from batangas to caticlan, 2GO travel, mas convinient yun kasi mas malalaki barko nila.

[numbah5]

Higher Euro rating (Euro IV, Euro V, and so on) means that the fuel has less sulfur particles, measured in ppm. Euro II is 500 ppm while Euro IV is 50 ppm.

It does not, however, automatically mean that fuels with higher Euro emission standards offer better performance or fuel economy versus Euro II diesels. There's the argument, however, that cleaner diesel lowers the chance for clogged injectors (which are very expensive to replace) for CRDi engines.

Thing is, cars that are brought to the PH market are already retuned to work with the diesel that we have here. Most of the diesel vehicles sold here function just as well on Euro II as they do on Euro IV diesel.

A lot of people clamor that using Euro IV diesel by the minor fuel brands offers a big boost in performance/fuel economy, but I have my reservations on it since there's always the possibility of a placebo effect since you "expect" the fuel to perform better. A single-blind test wherein someone else refuels for you would be nice, and probably the most objective way to do qualitative testing. Fuel economy can be quantitatively measured though, as long as it's done over several full tanks over the same route, since a single full tank comparison is usually prone to variance due to minor changes in traffic conditions, more than the fuel itself.

BTT: Does anyone know if AT Ranger XLT's are still available?

I have done qualitative tests on all my CRDi diesel powered vehicles with regards on the fuel efficiency. Same route and same traffic situation. On V-Power Diesel and Turbo diesel, FC was 6.7-8.0 km/L (Montero Sport), 7.0-8.2 km/L (Strada), 7.2-8.4 km/L (Trailblazer) depending on the traffic movement. On Seaoil Euro 3 diesel, FC was 7.0-8.7 km/L (Montero Sport), 7.5-9.1 km/L (Strada), 7.7-9.3 km/L (Trailblazer) depending on the traffic movement. On Unioil and Eastern Petroleum Euro 4 diesel, FC was 7.4-8.8 km/L (Montero Sport), 7.6-9.4 km/L (Strada), 8.2-9.8 km/L (Trailblazer) depending on the traffic movement.

As you can see, I have the best FC on Euro 4 diesels. That is due to it having a higher cetane number according to Unioil in their description of the EuroDieselIV. Better acceleration in my part is not a placebo effect because due to a cleaner diesel fuel, my EGR valves doesn't clogged up anymore, resulting in smooth power unlike with the Euro 2 diesels of the Big 3 which often clogs the EGR valves of my Montero and Strada, resulting in loss of power.

To answer your BTT question, yes the XLT A/T variant is still available according to my SA in Ford Global City.

[Turbonitecs]

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sir pwede nyo try yung roro from batangas to caticlan, 2GO travel, mas convinient yun kasi mas malalaki barko nila.

Gusto ko sana kaso baka di ako umabot Friday night ang alis ko around 7pm ang departure ng 2GO is 9pm tapos uwian pa ng mga pasahero sa province kasi weekend expect ko traffic. Sa Caticlan to Batangas n lng ako mag2GO pabalik ng Manila.

[jut703]

I have done qualitative tests on all my CRDi diesel powered vehicles with regards on the fuel efficiency. Same route and same traffic situation. On V-Power Diesel and Turbo diesel, FC was 6.7-8.0 km/L (Montero Sport), 7.0-8.2 km/L (Strada), 7.2-8.4 km/L (Trailblazer) depending on the traffic movement. On Seaoil Euro 3 diesel, FC was 7.0-8.7 km/L (Montero Sport), 7.5-9.1 km/L (Strada), 7.7-9.3 km/L (Trailblazer) depending on the traffic movement. On Unioil and Eastern Petroleum Euro 4 diesel, FC was 7.4-8.8 km/L (Montero Sport), 7.6-9.4 km/L (Strada), 8.2-9.8 km/L (Trailblazer) depending on the traffic movement.

As you can see, I have the best FC on Euro 4 diesels. That is due to it having a higher cetane number according to Unioil in their description of the EuroDieselIV. Better acceleration in my part is not a placebo effect because due to a cleaner diesel fuel, my EGR valves doesn't clogged up anymore, resulting in smooth power unlike with the Euro 2 diesels of the Big 3 which often clogs the EGR valves of my Montero and Strada, resulting in loss of power.

To answer your BTT question, yes the XLT A/T variant is still available according to my SA in Ford Global City.

Thanks for the numbers bro. Sadly, less than 1% of the driving population would give a damn about Unioil's EuroIV. Sa totoo lang, ang car enthusiasts, napakaingay but they contribute very little volume. To the average person - if the car is working as expected, then other things become more important (price, customer service, convenience, etc) than the fuel itself.

EuroIV will only be mandatory by 2016 so that's when the big 3 would comply. But I've heard from the grapevine that one of them would release EuroIV by 2014.

Thanks for the heads-up on availability too. A friend is looking for an automatic XLT, prolly sometime July.

[numbah5]

Thanks for the numbers bro. Sadly, less than 1% of the driving population would give a damn about Unioil's EuroIV. Sa totoo lang, ang car enthusiasts, napakaingay but they contribute very little volume. To the average person - if the car is working as expected, then other things become more important (price, customer service, convenience, etc) than the fuel itself.

EuroIV will only be mandatory by 2016 so that's when the big 3 would comply. But I've heard from the grapevine that one of them would release EuroIV by 2014.

Thanks for the heads-up on availability too. A friend is looking for an automatic XLT, prolly sometime July.

I think it's Petron that will be launching cleaner fuels next year. I remember reading an article 2 years ago where Petron CEO and San Miguel Corp. President Ramon Ang said that will be modernizing, expanding and upgrading their refineries starting 2 years ago and will end by 2014. And what he said in that article is after the upgrading, modernization and expansion; they will have Euro 5 fuels

BTT: my SA told me that they will have units arriving within the month. There's a big chance my white 3.2 WT is included there.

EDIT: I found the article. Here it is:
Petron to upgrade refinery to meet clean air standards | Business, News, The Philippine Star | philstar.com

Updated April 7, 2011 - 12:00am
... Petron Corp., the country’s largest oil refiner, will modernize and expand its refinery to meet global clean air standards, including the upgrade to Euro 5-compliant fuels.

The company recently unveiled the second phase of its refinery expansion program (RMP-2) during the commemoration of its Bataan refinery....

....Another benefit from RMP-2 is the local production of fuels that meet the global clean air standard of the future - Euro 5, further improving air quality in the country....

[jut703]

I think it's Petron that will be launching cleaner fuels next year. I remember reading an article 2 years ago where Petron CEO and San Miguel Corp. President Ramon Ang said that will be modernizing, expanding and upgrading their refineries starting 2 years ago and will end by 2014. And what he said in that article is after the upgrading, modernization and expansion; they will have Euro 5 fuels

Yup Petron nga. I didn't know that their refinery upgrade was public info

[Djerms]

Yup Petron nga. I didn't know that their refinery upgrade was public info

This is very good news indeed. Ive been using seaoils euro 3 to 4 fuels and thebbenefits are all good. Problem lang is sometimes I doubt their quality control in terms of handling and stocking. Mas tiwala pa rin ako sa big companies. Sana petron's upgrade will push sooner.

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[A-OK]

Higher Euro rating (Euro IV, Euro V, and so on) means that the fuel has less sulfur particles, measured in ppm. Euro II is 500 ppm while Euro IV is 50 ppm.

It does not, however, automatically mean that fuels with higher Euro emission standards offer better performance or fuel economy versus Euro II diesels. There's the argument, however, that cleaner diesel lowers the chance for clogged injectors (which are very expensive to replace) for CRDi engines.

Thing is, cars that are brought to the PH market are already retuned to work with the diesel that we have here. Most of the diesel vehicles sold here function just as well on Euro II as they do on Euro IV diesel.

Agree with juts. Just to add. The reason for lower sulfur diesel is mainly to prevent poisoning of catalyst in the catalytic converter. Catalytic converter & DPF along with EGR, intercooler turbo, CRDI are needed in order to meet EURO IV emission standards. Locally sold vehicles are not yet equipped with catalytic converters & DPF since EURO IV diesel is not widely available yet. Mandate for EURO IV is 2016.

Aside from sulfur, I know diesel in Europe has higher Cetane (> 55) & lighter making it burn faster & cleaner particulate emission. As juts pointed out, not all EURO IV diesel may have these qualities.

Regarding clogged injectors, isn't it due to micron size of fuel filter? Read a lot about clogged injectors in Isuzu trooper. while other models r not prone to clogging.

[Djerms]

Agree with juts. Just to add. The reason for lower sulfur diesel is mainly to prevent poisoning of catalyst in the catalytic converter. Catalytic converter & DPF along with EGR, intercooler turbo, CRDI are needed in order to meet EURO IV emission standards. Locally sold vehicles are not yet equipped with catalytic converters & DPF since EURO IV diesel is not widely available yet. Mandate for EURO IV is 2016.

Aside from sulfur, I know diesel in Europe has higher Cetane (> 55) & lighter making it burn faster & cleaner particulate emission. As juts pointed out, not all EURO IV diesel may have these qualities.


Regarding clogged injectors, isn't it due to micron size of fuel filter? Read a lot about clogged injectors in Isuzu trooper. while other models r not prone to clogging.

I'm not too sure if diesels locally doesnt have catalytic converters and DPF's. I think they do. I think I saw a few modern vehicles with these. I'll have to check re the T6

[numbah5]

Agree with juts. Just to add. The reason for lower sulfur diesel is mainly to prevent poisoning of catalyst in the catalytic converter. Catalytic converter & DPF along with EGR, intercooler turbo, CRDI are needed in order to meet EURO IV emission standards. Locally sold vehicles are not yet equipped with catalytic converters & DPF since EURO IV diesel is not widely available yet. Mandate for EURO IV is 2016.

Aside from sulfur, I know diesel in Europe has higher Cetane (> 55) & lighter making it burn faster & cleaner particulate emission. As juts pointed out, not all EURO IV diesel may have these qualities.

Regarding clogged injectors, isn't it due to micron size of fuel filter? Read a lot about clogged injectors in Isuzu trooper. while other models r not prone to clogging.

Euro 4 diesels here have the same cetane number with the diesels in Europe. And it's not the injectors that are being clogged. It's the EGR valves that are being clogged due to soot that was caused by the high sulphur content of the Euro 2 diesels, resulting in power loss. Most CRDi powered diesels here have Catalytic Converters.

[numbah5]

I'm not too sure if diesels locally doesnt have catalytic converters and DPF's. I think they do. I think I saw a few modern vehicles with these. I'll have to check re the T6

The Montero Sport has one.

[Djerms]

The Montero Sport has one.

Just talked to a Ford contact. The T6 has these also as part of the Euro compliance. He even said that he also recommends using Euro 4 fuels bundled with CI plus rated oils for newer crdis. He admitted that the only problem is not all stations (specially the big ones) carry these. Some manufacturers including Ford, detune their vehicles to comply with Euro II diesels but according to him, using cleaner diesels can definitely contribute to the lifespan of engine parts including the injectors.

Note: There are however some manufacturers who claim they detuned to euro2 where in fact they didn't. Marketing ploy.

I'm not in any way affiliated with these companies. Im just saying, I notice a big difference between Euro II diesels vs the Euro III and IV. Of course it boils down to user's preference.

[zamoco_08]

I would like to thanks sir numbah-5, A-OK and D-Jerms for the very well explained difference of the euro ratings of the diesels in our local market.
Mga sir what is the euro rating of PHOENIX petroleum po? Kasi yun Lang ang malapit dto sa place ko. TIA