Still waiting for a week for my turbo to be replaced. Either way I still find the ranger as the best pick up locally here, I tried most but overall I still go with the ranger. Though I'm keeping it with 2 more solid years and picking up the all-new navara next year. To be honest I'm really disappointed not mainly with the turbo problem but with the sales of Ford (D.I scheme) and getting a lemon unit.
Ako sir i will wait pa rin po na maresolve ang issues ng ranger, for now kahit hate ko ang ford stealerships ngayon dahil sa kalakaran nila still bet ko pa rin ang ranger because of its looks. Tsaka kapag lumabas na mga japanese counterparts nila sigurado darami na freebies ng ranger at mawawala na ang DI.
No doubt Ford is going to do something about the turbo issues, if they get enough heat from the media (dont all car manufacturers behave similarly?).
The impressions I get from the facebook poster from Davao is that Ford and its dealers are very nonchalant, bunglingly slow and incompetent. Of course thats based on his view of the events.
In these type of cases, it would be better for Ford to loosen up a bit and be cooperative. Being too legalistic about the letter of the warranty claims does not help anyone. It simply breaks down any good will.
Nobody seems in this thread seem to own the XL series. I'm really curious about that under tuned engine, its performance and is it afflicted with the same turbo problems.
First of all, i love ford with its all new design from explorer-fiesta/ecosport-ranger and in coming everest.
however, most of the problems has not been fixed, form dct, carbon monoxide poisoning and premature turbo blow out... despite most of this issues had already manifested since 2012.
the problem lies(irregular verb), is when the consumer(singular) only fights a big company that invest in our country with almost unlimited resources.- if that singular person is a lawyer, there would be almost no problem to this, since this can be easily be solved.
however not all is well versed in the law or doesn't even have the slightest idea which law to apply and how to enforce it.
the best bet is not to make this problem singular or case to case basis, , then and there ford phil. would be more than willing to listen to it's consumers. why? since you will have more clout to pull- remeber the toyota d4d svc pump problem
mahirap kausapin ang dealer kasi retailer lang sila, wala silang pakielam sa atin, basta makabenta at masingil ka nila sa pms mo eh bahala ka na of course there are exception na mababait na dealer.
the notion that ford would find a fix for it, is quite scary. why? dct problems already existed even before the all new ecosport has been produced(fiesta) yet they were not able to fix it up beforehand and rather than fixing it they were pursuing to sell more vehicle despite the problem, same with the carbon monoxide poisoning on the explorer and ford my touch problems(if this goes bad, your aircon might not work, your door locks might get screwed).
worst most media personnel in the car industry wouldn't even bother of reporting this issues, and when you criticize them, their universal respond is di sila tumatangap ng pera at kulang pa nga sweldo nila and thy're just doing this for the love of the cars-(yeah but you have perks like all expenses paid trip abroad and stuff) - one example is the jerkiness of the ford ecosport- lahat ata sinabi fluid ang at ecosposrt dct- yeah right(almost all but not all) THAT'S WHY THIS FORUM IS A BIG HELP TO CAR BUYERS/CONSUMERS
i was sadden to know some of the beautiful all new ranger has been out of commission for months- naalala ko dati selling point ng ford pinakita samin yung guarantee brochure na within 48 hours they can source any parts(fiesta and explorer)- what the hell happened?- a case of exaggerated advertisement?(almost bought a ranger)
again i love ford with their all new design and gadgetry pero sana naman pagtuunan ng pansin ng ford yung turbo problems ng ranger
imagine the old fords and chevy trucks up to this day are still working, yet with all the new tech and all they did not build our vehicle to last- the japanese got it, the americans(though of australian design) should revisit this old traditions that the japanese copied from them and made it better.
Last edited by victorevolution; September 17th, 2014 at 01:07 PM.
*Niwde: Iba din kasi yung feeling na ikaw ang mauna sa new tech but yes its really more practical to wait for the revisions or better yet get one with a carry over engine.
On a positive note, siguro naman hindi ito pababayaan ng ford since they already established the T6 on PHL shores. Nung magkaproblema ako sa wiper cowl cover, ambilis naman sumagot ng FGP to address the prob. Kapag may prob sa dealers, email fgp.
Masasabi nyo bang mas reliable pa ngayon ang korean brand kaysa dito sa ford? Parang mas konti or mas minor ang issues ng koreans kaysa sa ford
irrelevant for now(for me only) why? not on the list of my choice ever.
but as i always say hyundai and kia are good brands, it's the local distributor that is the problem as compared to other distributors. the only bad brands for me are the chinese brands regardless even if they are re branded japanese or bought the japanese tech.
a nail made from china will always be a bust than from those made in japan or elsewhere. why? lax strict enforcement of the law or lacking proper law- hence kahit sabihin mo na base on cummins yan eh kung gawang china pa din eh huwag na
EXCEPTION- when proper international standards are applied, like the iphone or japanese brands with quality control check on chinese plant(sa watch japan movement cased in china)
Truth is, there is no perfect car. You buy this and there will be issues. There is no panacea for all these issues.. That is why having a great forum like tsikot is a good source of information if only vehicle owners would share their experiences on how to cope with those problem.
This Ranger is actually my nearest candidate for my ageing 6yo Navara. That is why i'm interested hearing the owners how they fixed the problem, remedies and upgrades to enhance reliability. As a Navara owner, i'd say i've been thru some issues also all of which(known issues) were sorted out, or atleast if i will be confronted with problems, i dont have to guess so much and i know how to fix it.
For the ranger issues, im more interested on hearing owners stories how they fixed the car(other than casa used to do), what caused the problem, and how to solve it(other than replacing the defective part or the entire vehicle). If the turbo bearings are failing, how would changing oil grade and installing turbo timer help, or sort of mods like that?.. Anyone?
*mr. batangenyo sorry for the ot how is the fj cruiser compared to the ranger for eg. climbing a steep hill or mountain road with the ususal baggage for two?
So if its not oil coking, there could be only 4more left - insufficient oil pressure, wrong oil grade, wrong VGT mapping forcing turbo to spin or surge beyond limits, and design flaw of the turbo. What is the part number of the Garett turbo? Maybe crossing the GTVxxxx part number should show what other makes use this turbo family and how often they fail..
Brakes issue di ba maingay lang? Hindi naman yung mahina brakes or what.
May problem ba turbo?
Yeah wag na kayo bumili ng Ranger, ayaw niyo naman pala.
Simple lang naman, kung ayaw, wag bumili. Kung gusto, bumili.
Ganyan din mga tao sa Fortuner dati - may mga grandstander sa mga forum due to D4D issues pero when you look at the big picture, maayos naman siya for the majority of owners.
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Kasama na sa R And D nila yan. Yan yung last phase, real world application.
Di naman nila syempre ma simulate lahat ng environment.
Kaya kung ayaw mo ng hassle eh safer to buy yung compromise kesa sa maximized.