Jollibee temporarily closed some stores

[jick.cejoco]

maybe all the chicken they serve all came from polluted china with questionable method of poultry farming ang preparation. philippine chicken are mostly skinny and too oily to grill. look at mang inasal cheeken, to frail and oily

[e2romo]

The buck stops at the CIO, he has the last say for huge projects like this. If this happened on a different country on a publicly traded company the CIO would have already been terminated.

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[1D4LV]

Parang may nabasa ako na may licensing issue with oracle. So kung expired na, ibig sabihin wala ka ng legacy system na pwede mong gawing backup? Usually kasi sa migration dapat up pa rin legacy system. Para just in case madami pa defects sa bagong system, run mo sa legacy muna

ah ok.... possible....
they could be avoiding expensive lawsuits from oracle if this is the case. kaya minadali.

[_Qwerty_]

may epekto daw to sa pagtaas nang manok sa palengke at groceries.. parang nagpapanic daw mga tao kasi walang chickenjoy.. tumaas ang demand sa manok.. kaya ayun.. taking advantage naman yung mga nagbebenta.. 150 to 200 na daw ang kilo nang manok ngayon..

[badkuk]

may epekto daw to sa pagtaas nang manok sa palengke at groceries.. parang nagpapanic daw mga tao kasi walang chickenjoy.. tumaas ang demand sa manok.. kaya ayun.. taking advantage naman yung mga nagbebenta.. 150 to 200 na daw ang kilo nang manok ngayon..

Pati itlog tumaas din recently. Nahirapan din kumuha ng stock yung suki namin.

imho, if there really is a chicken shortage in the south due to Yolanda, di ba dapat nung last year pa e ramdam na natin? Haven't heard of any massive chicken kill(tama ba term?) or avian flu outbreaks lately.

[badkuk]

ah ok.... possible....
they could be avoiding expensive lawsuits from oracle if this is the case. kaya minadali.

i would expect Oracle to be lenient with the licensing; if it's just a matter of expired licenses, i don't think tatagal ng ganun.

What i'm thinking is they may want to migrate to another database vendor, and they want to migrate asap to avoid paying for extension of the current licensing(which they won't use after migration). afaik SAP can use other database software as backend.

[_Qwerty_]

oo nga sa grocery wala na yung mga murang itlog.. ang natira yung mga mahal na itlog.. tsk tsk tsk..

Pati itlog tumaas din recently. Nahirapan din kumuha ng stock yung suki namin.

imho, if there really is a chicken shortage in the south due to Yolanda, di ba dapat nung last year pa e ramdam na natin? Haven't heard of any massive chicken kill(tama ba term?) or avian flu outbreaks lately.

[1D4LV]

i would expect Oracle to be lenient with the licensing; if it's just a matter of expired licenses, i don't think tatagal ng ganun.

What i'm thinking is they may want to migrate to another database vendor, and they want to migrate asap to avoid paying for extension of the current licensing(which they won't use after migration). afaik SAP can use other database software as backend.

i was an oracle partner before..... they are not that lenient when it comes to licensing.
it is possible that the license expired earlier and oracle is pressuring them to renew. however, since may path na sila towards SAP migration, they could have left it out already on the assumption that the migration would be done this year.

[yebo]

what i don't understand is, ok your computer based warehousing is down. so what's stopping them from delivering the goods in their commissaries? alam naman nila kung ilan ang orders ng bawat outlet everyday so why not just deliver? may dr naman. saka na lang bilangin at singilin later kesa naman ganyan na ilang araw na silang sarado. yan ang mahirap e walang plan B, dependent totally sa computer e di naman yung computer ang nagpapatakbo ng negosyo kundi tao pa rin naman.

[_Qwerty_]

obviously ayaw nila mag manual.. wala daw delivery receipt kaya di makapag deliver..

what i don't understand is, ok your computer based warehousing is down. so what's stopping them from delivering the goods in their commissaries? alam naman nila kung ilan ang orders ng bawat outlet everyday so why not just deliver? may dr naman. saka na lang bilangin at singilin later kesa naman ganyan na ilang araw na silang sarado. yan ang mahirap e walang plan B, dependent totally sa computer e di naman yung computer ang nagpapatakbo ng negosyo kundi tao pa rin naman.

[yebo]

^^ daig pa sila ng nagtitinda sa sidewalk sa divisoria, lista lang sa pad paper kay akong pag dating ng gabi bayad. laway laway lang nagkakaintindihan.

[1D4LV]

another article:

Jollibee #ChickenSad: A costly IT problem

Notable points:

Jollibee had been using a product from software company Oracle to manage its supply chain, which includes inventory, placing of orders and delivery of supplies to stores. Insiders said a dispute with Oracle prompted Jollibee to switch to its rival, SAP.

The migration project was outsourced to a large multinational IT service provider, with no sizable local team handling SAP.

It has an operating schedule of just a little over a year.

[1D4LV]

what i don't understand is, ok your computer based warehousing is down. so what's stopping them from delivering the goods in their commissaries? alam naman nila kung ilan ang orders ng bawat outlet everyday so why not just deliver? may dr naman. saka na lang bilangin at singilin later kesa naman ganyan na ilang araw na silang sarado. yan ang mahirap e walang plan B, dependent totally sa computer e di naman yung computer ang nagpapatakbo ng negosyo kundi tao pa rin naman.

ayun ang problema. they probably have feared na pwede silang malugi dahil nag dedeliver sila tapos baka mawala ang invoice... they did not realize na mas malaki ang lugi nila ngayon.

[badkuk]

Anyone here watch House of Lies? Naalala ko yung isang episode where the bottling company was supposed to adopt a new ERP system, and an insider predicted it would go belly up since it would disrupt their operations.

Naayos na nga ba? i wonder kung ano yung dispute between Oracle and Jollibee; kung pera pera lang e sana binayaran na lang

[Tifosi]

Pang-case study talaga itong nangyari sa Jollibee. I think all IT companies should learn from Jollibee's folly.

Here's another article/blog post -> Calen Legaspi: Jollibee #ChickenSad - An IT Management Case Study

[uls]

nadala ata sa sales talk ang Jollibee

[yebo]

ah but if i were oracle i would just tell jollibee to stick it up their arses. ayaw nyo na sa amin e di ayaw na din namin sa inyo. magdusa ka! keep your money and weep!

[CVT]

Painful talaga SAP migration.... Now, that is extremely painful...

[peejay_07]

Gusto kasi makamura kaya yun yung kinuhang vendor. Ayan tuloy...

[badkuk]

i have a feeling the decision to migrate was neither financial nor technical; for a f*ckup this big, egos had to be involved.