Jollibee temporarily closed some stores

[chookchakchenes]

Ito ang problem pag walang plan b na mano-mano inventory ng stocks. Masyado 100% technology.

Kung meron ka lang dedicated na mga tao jollibee na (single, wala anak, wala bisyo, wala kalaguyo ) hindi aabot sa ganyan.

Pero duda ko may underlying problem pa ito, sa personal life, may kabit na chicks involved sa ganito problem.

Tandaan nyo ang business pag bumabagsak / napabayaan meron pakiki-apid nangyayari.

[3GEMS]

ah but if i were oracle i would just tell jollibee to stick it up their arses. ayaw nyo na sa amin e di ayaw na din namin sa inyo. magdusa ka! keep your money and weep!

Connection error...

[3GEMS]

ah but if i were oracle i would just tell jollibee to stick it up their arses. ayaw nyo na sa amin e di ayaw na din namin sa inyo. magdusa ka! keep your money and weep!

With the situation right now parang sinisira lang din ng Oracle pangalan nila...

[yebo]

With the situation right now parang sinisira lang din ng Oracle pangalan nila...

No, if the contract was not renewed by jollibee then oracle does not have any responsibility to continue the service. Bakit masisira pangalan nila kung nagprovide naman sila ng service until the contract was terminated by the client.

[rollyic]

i would expect Oracle to be lenient with the licensing; if it's just a matter of expired licenses, i don't think tatagal ng ganun.

What i'm thinking is they may want to migrate to another database vendor, and they want to migrate asap to avoid paying for extension of the current licensing(which they won't use after migration). afaik SAP can use other database software as backend.

Hindi ba netsuite ang gamit ng jollibee?

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[greatauror28]

Pang-case study talaga itong nangyari sa Jollibee. I think all IT companies should learn from Jollibee's folly.

Here's another article/blog post -> Calen Legaspi: Jollibee #ChickenSad - An IT Management Case Study

or should you say all "Retail" companies because IT companies doesn't have anything to do with Jabee's problem. And if I say "IT Companies" i mean real, tried-and-tested IT Companies, not just some kickstarter-startup-company-pretending-to-know-SAP.

I haven't read the whole article but I already lost interest.

What I can say:

Poor management and scheduling
Terrible estimation of man-hours
No Failover plan (who the f*ck does that?)
No risk mitigation
Poorly executed product/data migration

Lastly, who plans a half-Bil project to be done in less than a year? Really, who does??

I've been with three Big IT companies (2 local 1 here) and i've never seen a huge project estimated for only a year. Planning, Delegation, Business meetings, Testing, Documentation, Reports and Defect Management takes a lot of time to do and the amount of time it takes for these things to be executed gracefully is multiplied by how hard/big/complicated the project would be.

Apparently, somebody just wanna go home that day.

Buti nga sa kanila

[dr. d]

i am now confused...
is it the lack of chickens, or is it the oracle that neo talked to?

[chua_riwap]

Sabi nga ni erap eh.....
"Bakit ang mcdo, may chickenjoy?"

Ha hah!

[CVT]

Mang Inasal, mayroon di ba?

E ba't hindi nila paraanin sa Supply Chain ng Mang Inasal,- kung gusto nilang ma-track talaga,- under one category,- and then i-reverse nila lahat kapag okay na ang Jollibee for proper material/revenue recognition.

Para tuloy isang sabog na nag-aabang ng bus sa EDSA...... "Pare,------ Wowwww Cubaooooooo!"



“The measure of a man is what he does with power”
24.0K:fuzzy:

[shadow]

Cover up yan system migration.


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[badkuk]

Hindi ba netsuite ang gamit ng jollibee?

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impression ko lang sir is they migrated *to* SAP; me nagsabi naman na they migrated from SAP to Oracle.

Nagtataka rin ako how this got pass the CEO/BoD; half a billion pesos, one year? So they just took the CIO's/IT firm's word for it?

[badkuk]

Cover up yan system migration.


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Hmm, open secret naman siguro kung sino yung IT firm di ba? If they own up to it officially, then malabo sigurong cover up yan -- who'd risk their own firm's name for Jollibee? On the other hand, if they deny it...

There's a rumor going about that they source chicken from China; pero maliliit yung manok na gamit sa Chickenjoy right, and usually malalaki yung imported na manok?

[badkuk]

ouch.

2 more months of ‘Chickensad’

[yebo]

OT: malaki imported na manok kasi puro steroids. alam nyo naman sa china, fresh milk nga nilagyan ng melamine e yan pa kayang chicken ang di nila gawan ng hocus-pocus para lumaki. especially going to the philippines ang product at alam nila hindi strict ang food and drug dito, at NALALAGYAN pa.

ang owners kaya ng jollibee ay regular na kumakain ng chickenjoy? o kahit anong products nila? kung ang sagot ay "NO" kakain ka pa ba sa jollibee?

[badkuk]

OT: malaki imported na manok kasi puro steroids. alam nyo naman sa china, fresh milk nga nilagyan ng melamine e yan pa kayang chicken ang di nila gawan ng hocus-pocus para lumaki. especially going to the philippines ang product at alam nila hindi strict ang food and drug dito, at NALALAGYAN pa.

Umiiwas na talaga ako sa pagkain from China ever since the melamine scandal; who the hell puts industrial chemicals in milk?!? Di lang yun, after naconfiscate yung tainted milk products, after a few years it made it back to the market.

Pati tsaa naghahanap na rin ako na galing Taiwan, etc

[12vdc]

i am now confused...
is it the lack of chickens, or is it the oracle that neo talked to?

Its the IT thing that led to shortage of chicken in the stores.

See how drastic things could be if automation system fails. Always simulate, backup, redundiate, diversify, come up with fallback plan, and most importantly don't forget the override/manual switch..

Ramkar(KFC) and Golden Arches(McDo) have similar IT infra AFAIK, hope they learned from Jabi.

[1D4LV]

Its the IT thing that led to shortage of chicken in the stores.

See how drastic things could be if automation system fails. Always simulate, backup, redundiate, diversify, come up with fallback plan, and most importantly don't forget the override/manual switch..

Ramkar(KFC) and Golden Arches(McDo) have similar IT infra AFAIK, hope they learned from Jabi.

KFC's SAP is stable.... And it is being maintained by their affiliate Kaisa Consulting.
But I agree with you... The failure of the IT system implementation resulting to "haka-haka....", which resulted in the increase of prices...

[Calistro]

BusinessMirror - DA: Jollibee asking permit to import chicken

So I think they're opting to import chicken instead of doing movements in their inventory.

[falken]

BusinessMirror - DA: Jollibee asking permit to import chicken

So I think they're opting to import chicken instead of doing movements in their inventory.

That doesn't sound logical. :confused:

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[niky]

That doesn't sound logical. :confused:

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Ordering from overseas means they only talk to one or two big suppliers... as compared to here, where they have to shop around, talk to many different suppliers, deal with messy logistics... compete with supermarkets, drive prices up...