Remote bypass oil filtration

[crazy_boy]

How much siya sir CB?

- yan pala yun. Mineral oil na multigrade pero aganda nga rating. Comparable with Mobil Delvac MX 15w40.

RT, hindi ko na check yung price e. try ko check later. pero if ever meron naman siya sa Ace hardware hehe im looking for alternatives of Top1 e. tipid mode muna ako sa oil. hehe important na sa akin specs, hindi na yung semi-syn

[dvldoc]

A bit OT sir dvldoc but have you got any idea regarding the use of diesel engines in 4-stroke motorbikes. Seems to me this is quite fine. Only Gas engine oil with friction additives for fuel efficiency seems to be not good for MC since the clutch might slip. Just asking BTW.

Many people use diesel oil with 4-stoke engines, but there is a trick to it, things like scooters can use C-4 to CJ-4 due to the additive packages having lots of Zinc, phos, and moly.

In most cases they have more zinc and other additives than many 4 stroke engine oils. Delo, Delvac, Rotella T are a few brands that fit that bill. The MAG1 posted would also work great.

The other biggy is a High TBN which most of theses will have greater than 9.5 to 12. So they are durable.

I don't think anything that is oil or filter related is OT on this thread.

[Ry_Tower]

Many people use diesel oil with 4-stoke engines, but there is a trick to it, things like scooters can use C-4 to CJ-4 due to the additive packages having lots of Zinc, phos, and moly.

In most cases they have more zinc and other additives than many 4 stroke engine oils. Delo, Delvac, Rotella T are a few brands that fit that bill. The MAG1 posted would also work great.

The other biggy is a High TBN which most of theses will have greater than 9.5 to 12. So they are durable.

I don't think anything that is oil or filter related is OT on this thread.

Thanks a lot. Just want to confirm that as well. Yes, the ZDDP content and high TBN are a good thing that this diesel oil have.

My current bike also has 2 small oil filters but there seem to be no high quality replacement aside from OEM so I'll just use that.

[miked]

as per my inspection of the internals of vic and bosch oil filters, bosch have small filter openings in between the large filter opening (i mean the metal enclosed by the filter media). from my observations, the oil pressure warning light switches off a bit slower when i installed the bosch filter than when i was using vic.a big question maybe? well i tried using valvoline turbo sae 15w-40 mineral blend for the first time i used the bosch filter...btw, i'm originally delo multigrade user.

bosch fuel filters made in indonesia have 4 holes while the made in korea have 6....???

[crazy_boy]

as per my inspection of the internals of vic and bosch oil filters, bosch have small filter openings in between the large filter opening (i mean the metal enclosed by the filter media). from my observations, the oil pressure warning light switches off a bit slower when i installed the bosch filter than when i was using vic.a big question maybe? well i tried using valvoline turbo sae 15w-40 mineral blend for the first time i used the bosch filter...btw, i'm originally delo multigrade user.

bosch fuel filters made in indonesia have 4 holes while the made in korea have 6....???

sir, can you post pictures?

[Ry_Tower]

as per my inspection of the internals of vic and bosch oil filters, bosch have small filter openings in between the large filter opening (i mean the metal enclosed by the filter media). from my observations, the oil pressure warning light switches off a bit slower when i installed the bosch filter than when i was using vic.a big question maybe? well i tried using valvoline turbo sae 15w-40 mineral blend for the first time i used the bosch filter...btw, i'm originally delo multigrade user.

bosch fuel filters made in indonesia have 4 holes while the made in korea have 6....???

Yes fuel and oil filter may have different number of holes. Late shut-off of oil pressure light means the oil does not circulate as readily meaning in a positive way that the Bosch filter is filtering more.

Just make sure it doesn't light up while already driving, haha, problem yun!

[crazy_boy]

yes, basta hindi umilaw during driving ok lang yan.

usually 1-2 seconds off na yung oil pressure light.

[miked]

sirs CB and RT, sorry no pics....kawawa naman digicam sa bahay. di ko na naisip na picturan yung bosch e.

yup the oil pressure light must be off while driving BUT it happened once to my truck summer last year. if i accelerate the truck the light would go off then switches on again by the time i release the accel pedal. turned out it was a defective sendew...whewww! i'm actually waiting for my order of an electrical oil pressure and an oil temperature gage for real time monitoring of engine health. another DIYto come.

[MrQ5]

when i bought a 2T an FC rated in the bottle made by rainchem intl, googled some about the manufacturer and they also the distributor of RAIMOL lubricants... anyone who tried this?
RAIMOL? Energized Lubricants

[miked]

i've been following this thread all along and got a bit confused. i'm having a murky understanding on the "fluted, non-fluted" FGs. all fakes are fluted in general and the genuine aren't fluted, aside from other info on fakes like country of origin, plastic wrapping, etc? kick me in the head if im wrong.

[dvldoc]

A filter being fluted or non fluted (fluted means the indentations on the top of the filter for grip) does not mean a filter a a fake. But in the case of the filter that was pointed out it was a fake and was also physically the wrong size and was fluted.

FG will always be fully sealed in plastic unless someone takes it out
Will always have a Julian date on the top of the filter
Will always have a country of origin

Baldwins are easy to spot they will have that little circle that will say Made in the USA on them.

From what I hear non of the vendors have done much on the elimination of the counterfeit filters in their stock so it's just up to the buyer to be aware since they either don't care what they sale or don't have the training to tell the difference. (not like it is hard)

They still have plenty of good filters in stock that fit a wide variety of vehicles. Obviously fakes can come from anywhere from your local parts store to Ace so buyer beware. Better to go with a VIC than a fake.

[crazy_boy]

A filter being fluted or non fluted (fluted means the indentations on the top of the filter for grip) does not mean a filter a a fake. But in the case of the filter that was pointed out it was a fake and was also physically the wrong size and was fluted.

FG will always be fully sealed in plastic unless someone takes it out
Will always have a Julian date on the top of the filter
Will always have a country of origin

Baldwins are easy to spot they will have that little circle that will say Made in the USA on them.

From what I hear non of the vendors have done much on the elimination of the counterfeit filters in their stock so it's just up to the buyer to be aware since they either don't care what they sale or don't have the training to tell the difference. (not like it is hard)

They still have plenty of good filters in stock that fit a wide variety of vehicles. Obviously fakes can come from anywhere from your local parts store to Ace so buyer beware. Better to go with a VIC than a fake.

the thing with Vic filters, there are also a lot of fake in the market. that's the sad part.

[miked]

thanks sir dvldoc.

right on sir CB. fake VICs seem to be everywhere.....in my case before, i bought VIC c-306 for P400 plus from store 1 then tried buying from store 2. the store 2 initially offered P700. then i said the other supply gave it to me for approximately half his price. he immediately gave it to me at the same price also....i really can't tell if its fake or not...or maybe store 2 could be selling also a fake and masking it as genuine with a high price.....

[crazy_boy]

dvldoc, have you heard of auto-rx? your 2 cent please hehe

[dvldoc]

I posted about the Auto-rx, it's good stuff I use it here in the states.

[crazy_boy]

dvldoc, i cant seem to find your old post. anyway, i've been reading about auto-rx for the past couple of days, mostly, i find positive feedback. however, i also found a couple of negative feedback. there's several thread in BITOG saying that the owner of auto-rx is paying the posters in the forums to give auto-rx a positive review. there's also a thread regarding the pictures in their website that some of the pictures were photoshoped, while others were not the same engine.

anyway, long story short, i want to hear it from someone we know here in the forum. positive or negative hehe pictures would also help.

thanks! was considering this since my 4m40 engine has 130,000 km on it already, and thinking that this might be a money well spent. to clean the internals of the motor and the turbo.

[dvldoc]

I have used it for about 10 years never had a problem with it. I use it with Quaker Q horse power or Q torque power 4X4 SUV full synthetic for years and never had a issue, Definitely stopped the annoying knocking noise of my Ford explorer 4.0 liter after about 200 miles. Has also worked great on all my Pontiac Grandprix GTP's.

All these I raced into the ground black one ran low 12's and 11's on the bottle the red one high 12's in the quarter. And I use it in my 2000 Daytona Grand prix as well which is my daily driver, they tend to get sluggy but mine all stay spotless. All these cars are 3.8 liter supercharged engines. A lot of my diesel buddies use it as well and I added it to my Elgrand in the Philippines when I first got it and let it run through for about a month before I changed the oil. I also use it in the wife's Nissan Altima with is a DOHC 2.5L 175hp engine which is also a known sluge monster but it's pretty much spotless after 73000 miles.

[miko101130]

DvlDoc just a question...
i have bought 3 times from pacer fleetguard filters for my 3.5 gdi Pajero. Part number LF 3644..
This is what i observed, the filter is not covered in plastic wrap,the box is not sealed, but there is a print on the box which state made in Italy and there is a code at the top of the filter, theres also some corrosion i think around thte filter holes in the middle...
Do you think its the real deal? thanks, cause im adamant. i really have no idea if its fake or real..
Now im having second thoughts, im thinking of changing and using the cross reference of LF3644 to Donaldson P502009 or to Baldwin B1402 ...
I need your opinion DvlDoc, thanks

[dvldoc]

Let me break it down on this particular filter.

First there is no Fleetguard manufacture site in Italy, there is one in France. I posted the iso certs of all the plants that actually make Fleetguard filters. If they don't have a iso cert by that claimed country it's not a real one.

Here's the other things.

Real LF3644 will have 8 holes in the base.

Not fluted

5 crimps on the gasket surface.

6 spot weld marks on the base.

Unpainted lip (will be silver)

They do not come in individual boxes as they are sold by the case. They do come fully wrapped in plastic as all Fleetguard oil filters. The only thing these can have different than others is the Julian date can be printed in red on the side versus the top of the filter in black (don't ask me why I don't know) Country of origin will always be on the filter period. It's very easy to get some shop to make boxes with the Fleetguard logo.

But here is a example of a fake vs real of the LF3644.

FAKE




Real (notice the font difference on the filters as well)



Please Fleetguard guy prove me wrong Don't think we will hear from him again, I would love to be wrong and would gladly admit if I made any mistakes on my facts.

The reason Fleetguards are sealed in plastic is so they don't rust while on the shelf, If the code on top of your filter is not in Julian date format then you also know it's not real. This would give you the date it was manufatured and can be traced to the exact plant it came from.

[crazy_boy]

I have used it for about 10 years never had a problem with it. I use it with Quaker Q horse power or Q torque power 4X4 SUV full synthetic for years and never had a issue, Definitely stopped the annoying knocking noise of my Ford explorer 4.0 liter after about 200 miles. Has also worked great on all my Pontiac Grandprix GTP's.

All these I raced into the ground black one ran low 12's and 11's on the bottle the red one high 12's in the quarter. And I use it in my 2000 Daytona Grand prix as well which is my daily driver, they tend to get sluggy but mine all stay spotless. All these cars are 3.8 liter supercharged engines. A lot of my diesel buddies use it as well and I added it to my Elgrand in the Philippines when I first got it and let it run through for about a month before I changed the oil. I also use it in the wife's Nissan Altima with is a DOHC 2.5L 175hp engine which is also a known sluge monster but it's pretty much spotless after 73000 miles.

dvldoc, upon further research, i also found Kreen and Marvel Mystery Oil. Have you tried any of those? im looking for other alternatives to auto-rx as well