Mineral , semi synthetic or fully synthetic?

[papi smith]

Nakupo, almost 4,000 na pala. Hanap na lang talaga ng viable alternative. So check you usage.
Kung pamalengke at panghatid lang ng mga bata saka office visits (WFH pa karamihan) baka di kailangan ng premium oils.
Actually, kahit yung mga highways natin eh restricted lang tayo to 100kph, then di rin naman kalayuan at just 300km or so.





I'm just beginning to understand that these 'cheap' Zic, Hyundai, etc. "fully/ 100% synthetic" engine oils are mostly from VHVI base oils.
That is, unlike yung mga PAO or Group IV base oils, these are Group II/ Group III hydrocracked oils to have those PAO characteristics.
So tanggap ko rin na sa mga usual use case scenario sa atin, these can already offer enough protection better than mineral oils.
You get the benefits of pure synthetic oils (up to a point), at a mineral or semi-synthetic oil price point.

But then I can also understand the others who chose to pay for their peace of mind.

My simple mind tells me that when a vehicle calls for a certain mileage or time when to change the oil and does not specify anything except for the 5w30 whatchamacallit thingie, I take it that mineral oil will just do fine.

With Facebook, I realized people tend to baby their vehicles, to the point of asking what's your bling or asking what bling do they need to put. So I also understand why most people who only use their cars every so often try to overthink what's the best oil to use.

[yapoy86]

Nakupo, almost 4,000 na pala. Hanap na lang talaga ng viable alternative. So check you usage.
Kung pamalengke at panghatid lang ng mga bata saka office visits (WFH pa karamihan) baka di kailangan ng premium oils.
Actually, kahit yung mga highways natin eh restricted lang tayo to 100kph, then di rin naman kalayuan at just 300km or so.





I'm just beginning to understand that these 'cheap' Zic, Hyundai, etc. "fully/ 100% synthetic" engine oils are mostly from VHVI base oils.
That is, unlike yung mga PAO or Group IV base oils, these are Group II/ Group III hydrocracked oils to have those PAO characteristics.
So tanggap ko rin na sa mga usual use case scenario sa atin, these can already offer enough protection better than mineral oils.
You get the benefits of pure synthetic oils (up to a point), at a mineral or semi-synthetic oil price point.

But then I can also understand the others who chose to pay for their peace of mind.

Sa mga tipid.. pwede na.. hehe.. sabi nga di naman kikibo yan..

[soullinker20]

using amsoil on innova, so far so good. shifting is smoother, less effort sa arangkada than previous casa oil.

[sirkosero]

using amsoil on innova, so far so good. shifting is smoother, less effort sa arangkada than previous casa oil.

Diba placebo effect?

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[Vodka]

Diba placebo effect?

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placebo effect lang yan. during the 90's we used thicker oil and you really notice a difference after changing the oil

but starting late 90's early 2000's when you change the oil you don't notice anything

btw i just recently changed to amsoil on the ford, no difference at all

[soullinker20]

Diba placebo effect?

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base sa aking observation lang naman. ymmv

[papi smith]

Based on my experience parang pare pareho lang ang performance ng oil sa car ko. I've tried Mobil 1 FS, Honda Genuine Mineral and a lot of other FS and mineral oils, regardless if they are fake or not, may time talaga na parang magaan ang takbo at meron ding time na para kang may hinihila.

Except one time when I used 20w50, na nabibigatan ako sa hila, I don't know if it's psychological, because everytime I use the car, first thing that goes to my mind is nasilaw ako dahil mura itong Toyota genuine oil only to learn later na mura talaga ang 20w50. But if I press the pedal harder, responsive naman sya.

[Walter]

Maybe performance depends on weather? ...

[Vodka]

full synthetic daw. mura. shows a real API donut so it's officially certified (xteer for example doesn't show the donut)

pero walang acea ratings so it has the same specs as a 10w30 mineral oil like valvoline premium conventional or havoline formula. similar price as these two mineral oil also

[_Qwerty_]

Wala nang Mineral Oil ang Honda.. Semi and FS na lang daw ang choices..

[papi smith]

As in tumigil na sila sa paggamit nito or temporarily out of stock lang?

[_Qwerty_]

ang sabi nung SA ko.. wala na daw.. so phased out na daw mineral oil sa Honda.. it's either Semi or FS na lang..

As in tumigil na sila sa paggamit nito or temporarily out of stock lang?

[papi smith]

Kunsabagay from the point of view of inventory mas konti SKU, mas efficient ang operations.

[sirkosero]

Wala nang Mineral Oil ang Honda.. Semi and FS na lang daw ang choices..

Sayang. I like their 10w-30 regular oil pa naman. I use it sa vios. Hehe.

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[shadow]

Kunsabagay from the point of view of inventory mas konti SKU, mas efficient ang operations.

dapat ang inalis yun semi.

Kung kulang pera then regular pag meron extra pag fully synt.

Hinde ako naninjwla sa semi. Panloloko lang yan.


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[Tha_Mann]

for me, konti lang ang price difference ng Honda fully synthetic sa Motul kaya Motul ginagamit ko. 100% synthetic kasi ang Motul pero ang Honda eh fully synthetic lang.

from the web:
"In other words, a 100% synthetic is a combination of synthetic base PAO/ Ester along with synthetic additives. On the other hand, full synthetic oil is a highly refined petroleum base with synthetic additives. In other words, fully synthetic oil is a combination of 50% petroleum base and 50% synthetic additives."

[babkalakal]

dapat ang inalis yun semi.

Kung kulang pera then regular pag meron extra pag fully synt.

Hinde ako naninjwla sa semi. Panloloko lang yan.


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i agree. pero malamang ang sagot diyan besides streamlining of inventory ay mas malaki ang kita nila sa semi-syn kaysa regular mineral. saka may napanood ako noon lugi talaga value sa semi-syn yung ibang semi-syn contains as little as 5% synthetic conponent by volume sa mix.

[Vodka]

i agree. pero malamang ang sagot diyan besides streamlining of inventory ay mas malaki ang kita nila sa semi-syn kaysa regular mineral. saka may napanood ako noon lugi talaga value sa semi-syn yung ibang semi-syn contains as little as 5% synthetic conponent by volume sa mix.

i'm planning to get a suzuki so i visited the service dept. wala na daw sila mineral oil, meron lang semi-synth

[babkalakal]

i'm planning to get a suzuki so i visited the service dept. wala na daw sila mineral oil, meron lang semi-synth

baka pareho sila ng financial advisor ni honda hehe jk

[baludoy]

mukhang papatusin ko na iyong hyundai xteer g700. medyo garage queen naman din iyon kaya low mileage na ang takbuhan. baldwin naman din ang oil filter niya sa ok na din siguro.

although lately ginamagamit ko na din siya kasi iyong truck ko diesel so mas nasa garage siya naka destino more often than not. tutal wala namang baha of late kaya siya naman ang garage queen.