Magnafuel review?

[niky]

Tnx for the info. Like I said, this test, A-B, will be only for our own consumption, for our own use and records purposes only. (for our eyes only) It will be on our old car (1994), so no ecu problem. Di, ipa-measure na rin namin with their 02 sensors and have the emission test after the dyno.

What's the point of testing, then? True scientific progress comes about through both success and failure. A negative result is just as important as a positive.

The notion that the vehicle will be left at the test facility... Our EM device will take effect only after travelling 200 km (for diesel) and 50-100km (for gasoline); parang "learning effect". while the ES device may take a few minutes to take effect. (usually 5-15 mins).

What "learning effect" can take place in a carbureted vehicle?

You do realize that you can simulate those 200 kilometers on the dyno within a few hours?

This tests will be hidden from the public. Anyway, tnx for the info, sir.

Then they're useless. And prove nothing.

[pyramid00]

[QUOTE=niky;2849498] a. What's the point of testing, then? True scientific progress comes about through both success and failure. A negative result is just as important as a positive.

b. What "learning effect" can take place in a carbureted vehicle?
You do realize that you can simulate those 200 kilometers on the dyno within a few hours?

c. Then they're useless. And prove nothing.[/QUOTE


#1: It doesn't matter to us if the results will be published or not. (good or bad results). We just want to reduce unproven comments which are not based on actual tests/usage/xperiments, e.g., 'magnets doesn't affect fuel because fuel is non-magnetic', and other fallacies. (it even affect our bodies!)

#2: We do not know that the dyno can simulate a 200 km run in a few hours. In that case, a test could be done immediately after the 'before' test. Will it not ruin our 1994 baby? Is the simulation exactly same as a 200km run at regular traffic conditions? Baka naman mawawasak ang aming ancient car? After all this time, you don't believe in our EM 'learning effect?' It's because you haven't tried yet; with due respect to you as an automotive expert.

We should send a query email to speedlab to give us their estimates for the tests. (sana P4k-5k/test pa rin)

#3: It will not be useless because it will prove that a weak, pulsating field will ionize the fuel and make the molecules break their bonding with each other for better combustion, the engine run silently and smoothly than before. (better fc, higher power and reduced emissions ) PM's give 8-10% better fc on a 1998 Mitsu L300 engine. (with a PM device from the UK). pls see: ijmcadotorg - archives (vol 1, issue 7); (vol 2. issue 7); and (vol 2, issue 2) naku, pa-ulit-ulit na lang, to the point of boring others. xencia na, just proving my point

Thank you for the info. Have a nice day.

[niky]

#1: It doesn't matter to us if the results will be published or not. (good or bad results). We just want to reduce unproven comments which are not based on actual tests/usage/xperiments, e.g., 'magnets doesn't affect fuel because fuel is non-magnetic', and other fallacies. (it even affect our bodies!)

If you don't publish/present the results, then it proves nothing to anyone else.

#2: We do not know that the dyno can simulate a 200 km run in a few hours. In that case, a test could be done immediately after the 'before' test. Will it not ruin our 1994 baby? Is the simulation exactly same as a 200km run at regular traffic conditions? Baka naman mawawasak ang aming ancient car? After all this time, you don't believe in our EM 'learning effect?' It's because you haven't tried yet; with due respect to you as an automotive expert.

A dyno is not exactly the same, but it can do that. Conversely, you can leave it in the hands of independent testers to run those 200 kms.

Show me the scientific principle behind the learning effect. Again, it's not my job to prove the extraordinary. It's your job to prove it and show the theory behind it.

#3: It will not be useless because it will prove that a weak, pulsating field will ionize the fuel and make the molecules break their bonding with each other for better combustion, the engine run silently and smoothly than before. (better fc, higher power and reduced emissions ) PM's give 8-10% better fc on a 1998 Mitsu L300 engine. (with a PM device from the UK). pls see: ijmcadotorg - archives (vol 1, issue 7); (vol 2. issue 7); and (vol 2, issue 2) naku, pa-ulit-ulit na lang, to the point of boring others. xencia na, just proving my point

Thank you for the info. Have a nice day.

Several independent tests done by people OTHER than the vendors of magnetic fuel savers have consistently shown no benefit. Why should I repeat those experiments on my own funding to arrive at the same conclusion?

Also... what learning do you expect to happen to a flowing column of fluid that does not return to the tank?

[glenn manikis]

Wow, you're still at it? After all these years???

Try selling real estate or condo's, I swear you'll earn more.

Kung tutoo lang yan... he can be a multi milyonaire. Overnight....

[lowslowbenz]

[pyramid00]

uy, bokalbs. ang bokalbs, walang magawang magaling. j lang po. i'll have to see the vid.

[pyramid00]

uy, bokalbs. ang bokalbs, walang magawang magaling. j lang po. i'll have to see the vid.

sabi ko na nga ba. si bokalbs, walang magawang magaling. A bs video, imo.

uy, huwag mapikon, ha? i didn't really mean that; about bokalbs.

next time, no bs video, pls.

[pyramid00]

a. If you don't publish/present the results, then it proves nothing to anyone else.



b. A dyno is not exactly the same, but it can do that. Conversely, you can leave it in the hands of independent testers to run those 200 kms.

Show me the scientific principle behind the learning effect. Again, it's not my job to prove the extraordinary. It's your job to prove it and show the theory behind it.



c.Several independent tests done by people OTHER than the vendors of magnetic fuel savers have consistently shown no benefit. Why should I repeat those experiments on my own funding to arrive at the same conclusion?

Also... what learning do you expect to happen to a flowing column of fluid that does not return to the tank?

a. definitely, i'll publish the results if you wish (good, poor or bad) If nobody will request us to publish it. di, for our eyes only. Para sa amin, it will prove everything.

b. I have posted on tsikot many times that when i used the PM from the UK, i didn't notice anything different. It was only when i travelled nearly a hundred kms that i suddenly noticed a reduction in engine noise. Bigla kong narinig na mabuti ang kausap ko. kaunti lang ang reduction ng emissions and nearly 10% better fc. I've no theory behind it. Kailangan mo ba math equations and theorems para maniwala ka? Na test ko siya, syempre iyon ang paniniwalaan ko. kamuntik ko nga ngang tanggalin and PM device. (The only way to learn how to swim, is to swim - quote)

c. my comment. wait and see. Pwede ba, huwag tayong pa-ulit-ulit? I had emailed speedlab and asked for their quotation for our proposed two day test with a week in between.

[pyramid00]

Kung tutoo lang yan... he can be a multi milyonaire. Overnight....

I am already 'feeling millionaire' without the millions.

You can bet your whatever na tutuo ito. Why should we make gastos for this 2-in-1 device if we are not sure of it? Ano, sira?

All I ask is for you/everybody is to wait. The dyno will be finished late july or within august, inshallah

[Yatta]

a. definitely, i'll publish the results if you wish (good, poor or bad) If nobody will request us to publish it. di, for our eyes only. Para sa amin, it will prove everything.

b. I have posted on tsikot many times that when i used the PM from the UK, i didn't notice anything different. It was only when i travelled nearly a hundred kms that i suddenly noticed a reduction in engine noise. Bigla kong narinig na mabuti ang kausap ko. kaunti lang ang reduction ng emissions and nearly 10% better fc. I've no theory behind it. Kailangan mo ba math equations and theorems para maniwala ka? Na test ko siya, syempre iyon ang paniniwalaan ko. kamuntik ko nga ngang tanggalin and PM device. (The only way to learn how to swim, is to swim - quote)

c. my comment. wait and see. Pwede ba, huwag tayong pa-ulit-ulit? I had emailed speedlab and asked for their quotation for our proposed two day test with a week in between.

Ipaliwanag mo nga bakit at ano logic (with chemical and mathematical equations). Otherwise pareho lang yan ng tiger repelling rock ko. Imagine 10 years na walang tigre na lumalapit sa akin!

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[pyramid00]

Ipaliwanag mo nga bakit at ano logic (with chemical and mathematical equations). Otherwise pareho lang yan ng tiger repelling rock ko. Imagine 10 years na walang tigre na lumalapit sa akin!

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c. my comment. wait and see. Pwede ba, huwag tayong pa-ulit-ulit? I had emailed speedlab and asked for their quotation about our proposed two tests with a week in between.

All invention applications at IPO; wala yang sinasabi mong chem and math equations; unless someone is writing a paper with a scientific journal. wait, wait, wait. huwag pa-ulit-ulit.

[Yatta]

c. my comment. wait and see. Pwede ba, huwag tayong pa-ulit-ulit? I had emailed speedlab and asked for their quotation about our proposed two tests with a week in between.

All invention applications at IPO; wala yang sinasabi mong chem and math equations; unless someone is writing a paper with a scientific journal. wait, wait, wait. huwag pa-ulit-ulit.

Kaya nga i-patent ko na rin yung tiger repellent rocks ko.

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[pyramid00]

[QUOTE=Yatta;2849794]Kaya nga i-patent ko na rin yung tiger repellent rocks ko.


Ayos. it's your choice. ( ano ba ang tiger repellant rocks, para ba sa langgam yan or what?

[Yatta]

[QUOTE=pyramid00;2849796]

Kaya nga i-patent ko na rin yung tiger repellent rocks ko.


Ayos. it's your choice. ( ano ba ang tiger repellant rocks, para ba sa langgam yan or what?

I think it also works on idiots and scammers. Care to try?

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[pyramid00]

[QUOTE=Yatta;2849800]

I think it also works on idiots and scammers. Care to try?

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ikaw na lang. di ba ipa-patent mo yan?

[oj88]

sabi ko na nga ba. si bokalbs, walang magawang magaling. A bs video, imo.

uy, huwag mapikon, ha? i didn't really mean that; about bokalbs.

next time, no bs video, pls.

I'll trust him a million times over before I believe a single claim you make about your Magna-nakaw-Fuel something.

Why should we make gastos for this 2-in-1 device if we are not sure of it? Ano, sira?

Elaborate scams requires a lot preparation, investment, and setup for it to appear believable. In fact your handle applty describes another type of scam. That's probably the only sincerity we can get from you... pyramid, like the scam.

[pyramid00]

I'll trust him a million times over before I believe a single claim you make about your Magna-nakaw-Fuel something.



Elaborate scams requires a lot preparation, investment, and setup for it to appear believable. In fact your handle applty describes another type of scam. That's probably the only sincerity we can get from you... pyramid, like the scam.

I will not bow down to your level oj69! ayaw kong makipagaway sa yo. para kang gal.

kung bokalbs ka, j lang yon.

[pyramid00]

I'll trust him a million times over before I believe a single claim you make about your Magna-nakaw-Fuel something.

"I'll trust him a million times......." Sino bang 'him' yon. Si LSB? the automotive expert? what about him?

[pyramid00]

ok, time to retire. wala akong na-pickup na magandang idea ngayong araw na ito. puro galit at pang-iinsulto. goodnght, sweet dreams, babies.

[oj88]

Yeah, retire ka na. In the morning, try to look for another place to peddle your product. Sorry, hindi gullible mga tao dito.