Has anyone heard of GTOil / NOW12? Is this a scam?

[burjegol]

A very nice reply indeed sir.

However, your declaration that it is the oil that makes the compression rather than the piston rings is a bit too stiff for me to digest. I do overhaul compressors with pistons the size of an ICE. Out of curiosity I inserted the piston in the cylinder without oil lubrication and guess what? I could feel the resistance of the air when the piston is pushed in the cylinder, indicating that the piston is compressing the air. If air leaks through it us minimal to be considered. The compression rings see to it that it is compressing the air.
Now, applying this to an ICE, the piston has 3 rings, 2 for compression and 1 for oil scraping. The work of the oil is nothing more than just to enhance compression, which any ordinary oil can do. Oil film adheres to cylinder and the rings, upon the TDC, the ignition is done. All AF mixture is then burned within the cylinder space. At the start of the power stroke, the piston goes down and the oil ring is scraping the oil film which adheres to the cylinder. If and ever if, for every combustion a certain amount of oil is burned, then the engine is loosing oil which will be detrimental to the engine. Now, going back to my first query, is the GTO able to withstand the combustion temperature that it is able to retain its properties and convert the carbon soot back into usable lubricant as claimed?

Now, listen. I have been using an oil additive that leaves a teflon coating in the moving parts that it enhances lubrication and protects the engine against wear and tear. By using this, it improves my fuel efficiency as it creates less friction as teflon is the world's slipperiest element. My engine is now running more than 300K km without major breakdown. I told this to a friend and he uses it on his station wagon. One time, while driving, he hits an obstruction cracking his oil pan. Oil leaked and after driving few kilometers, without his knowledge, there is no more oil in the crankcase. He continued to drive for more than 5 km till he reached home. the next day, he was surprised that there is no oil in his engine but the engine is still working perfectly. A friend was drag racing and been using this brand. His vehicle is a mopped up owner but no car can beat him, not event he much vaunted SRI. Shall I tell my other friend, a dirt biker who . . .? Sounds familiar?

Now, I've learned that this product is manufactured in China? China?

US technology, Russian technology, they are all made in Taiwan?

Anyway sir, I have no beef with you. You are duty bound to defend your merchandise. Good day

[uls]

Now, I've learned that this product is manufactured in China? China?

haha

nag post ako yesterday ng mga China suppliers ng additives

everything comes from China nowadays

[attyallanlatras]

1. You claim in your previous post that I "pretended" to be a "bulk" buyer...was I? In istorya.net, i merely inquired how much was a 250ml GTOil, how many do I need for my innova and where to buy...that all, now, at what point in time did i pose myself to be a "bulk" buyer? hence, your claim is baseless and deceitful.

2. Another deceitful claim is that I was trolling in istorya.net, was I? no, as stated, i merely made inquiries after reading the post of the members praising GTOil after they applied it to their engine. I do believe you were referring to another member in instorya.net who questioned about the cost of GTO...hence insinuating that i was trolling is again a baseless claim...

3. as regards "branding" GTO as a scam...I think you understand that I posted a question, right? If the conclusion of the experts here na scam talaga yung GTOil mo, then that is it. I cannot say that it is a scam since wala akong alam sa auto oils...notice, in another query i posted here, i was still considering placing an oil additive for my change oil since innova gas requires a 5.5liters oil, so I was asking kung pwede bang 5 liters of oil and .5 liter of oil additive, which ang advice nila dito is oil additive is not necessary....see this thread: http://tsikot.com/forums/engine-fuel...ral-oil-85840/ ....again, I admit noob ako about auto oils...

4. Who am I working for? for myself and my family...I do not represent any of the oil companies, buti kung oo...hehehe additional clients....can anyone here recommend me to them....hehehe

5. How much do they pay me? I hope meron....I hope to received a check anytime soon...hehehe

6. "lurking the Cebu Forum" and "harassing" them, can you cite anything in my post na nagharass ako as istorya.net?

in fact, if it was my intention to destroy you or your GTOil product in istorya.net, i would have posted a link there of the discussions here, right? But i did not do that, why? Because I Spider-Man, not a lawyer, with "power comes great responsibility"...he he he

7. yes, its true that there are exceptional persons who, though not an engineer yet was able to build the Arc, nor a car builder but was able to build Rolls Royce, or housewife but became the president, etc., but again they are more of an exception than the general rule..., well, i just belong to the latter.

8. Finally, I think you should answer the issues direct to the point, rather than accusing me of something of which I am not...otherwise your arguments fall under the fallacy of "argumentum ad hominem"...

inasmuch as my queries have been answered already here...i think i don't have to belabor myself to further discussions with you...

Thank you for your reply... My replies:

1. Please clarify how I made claims and how it's baseless if you can; but this is only if you wish to expound more on this;
2. I don't owe anything to anybody; As far as I am concerned, those who think I owe them something - already got a lot in return whether they admit it or not;
3. Please refrain from this habit of branding anything, unless if you are already a judge, first you branded GTO as a Scam, then now you are Branding GTO users are GTO Followers - this is very insulting, I certainly hope you are not insinuating that "The GTO Followers" are naive and blind followers of a cult;
4. If there's anyone who owes anything to anybody... that would be you! You owe the "GTO Followers" as you have termed or branded them AN APOLOGY.

Starting a thread with this title is hard to discount as one with a malicious intent.

It also starts to raise the following questions:

1. Who are you working for?

2. How much are they paying you?

3. If you just needed a change oil, why go to the extent of lurking the Cebu forums, Harassing the members therein and insiting a publicity stunt here in tsikot?

If you really are a Lawyer and a practicing one... which I and many others hope you're not... then you should have been the first one to display a more civilized example to the public.

People look up to you because of you're title, and with such power - comes great responsibility.

If you notice, your cheer leading squad are all up ganging in on me for your defense. Why such a waste of energy for something that is not being forced sell upon you? (yes you may answer this one. - not really a rhetoric question)

You are also most of the time online in this website... as you are in Istorya dot net.

Going back to being a lawyer... this is not an excuse to make you unlearned with automotive and oils and the like.

Rolls Royce was built by an electrician.
The Ark was built not by an engineer.
Cory was a housewife.
and Jeremiah was a bullfrog.

For the rest, I would like to advise everyone to refrain from asking stupid questions or making themselves stupid unnecessarily.

Ask the right questions and try to be civilized as people from Manila... Those you branded as people from the "Provinces" (labeling them in a manner that they are less better than you is simply discriminating)are watching this unfold.

Just want to point out that - People in the provinces are more conscious about their KPL Ratios - compared to Manilenios who simply don't care about the fuel they throw away in traffic. Now who is thinking better? (now this is a rhetoric question that does not require an answer.)


Pop Corn time...

[jaymd]

na-warningan ako due to my previous post which was labelled as insulting and sarcastic. Labo. sino ba yun enriko? My previous post was targeted towards the seemingly fraudulent website of GToil and the product itself. member ba si gtoil? The TS wanted to know if this product was a scam and upon studying the website/blog of GT0il it would appear that it is from my point of view. My previous post would highlight the numerous red flags that would indicate a scam. Gt oil best for hydrogen powered vehicles? donate to save the environment section in the gtoil blog?

[chua_riwap]

^ sino nag warning sa 'yo sir?

[jaymd]

si ehnriko the enthusiast. teka moderator ba sya? o mismo galing sa tsikot?

[renzo_d10]

Me too, I was given a warning by enrickho.

LOL.

Ganun nalang ba nagagawa ng wala nang masabi? Attack by giving warnings/infractions?

People nowadays.

[chua_riwap]

si ehnriko the enthusiast. teka moderator ba sya? o mismo galing sa tsikot?

naku...eh kung isa sa mga mods si enrichko....wala tayong lusot.
puro warning ang aabutin natin.........

kaya pala na-delete na yung ibang posts namin ni uls....

[renzo_d10]

Hello GTOil fanboy/scammed customer

I say good evening?

Do you have time to read every page of this thread?

I do, and so I've read every post in every page of this thread. That's why I was able to conclude that enrickho's claims was proven otherwise by my co-tsikoteers. Not by just stating opinions, but by stating strong points against him.

And have you seen enrickho's last post? He clearly said that he will just wait for his so-called students to learn and eat popcorn during the process. Don't you consider it as a sign of giving up, of waving the white flag, a sign of surrendering? I do. And that's how I ended up to my conclusion that he was owned by my co-tsikoteers who fired with again, very strong points.

I do not need to try the product to see whether it's true or not, I'm not that stupid to waste my 700 pesos to a product that's visually unappealing.

Eto yung post ko kung saan ako nabigyan ng warning.

Hoy, Mr. Know It All, anong mali ang sinabi ko dito?

[renzo_d10]

Guys ingat kayo huwag niyo na sagutin si enrickho or any GTOil fanboy for that matter.

Baka ma-ban kayo kasi sobrang pikon na ni enrickho pinaulanan kayo ng warnings/infractions

lol. funny mo pare

[jaymd]

labo neto thread na to hehe. 2 tanong lang naman nun thread starter. Has anyone heard of GToil? my answer NO. Is this a scam? YES.

ginandahan ko lang yun post ko warning na.

[ghosthunter]

naku...eh kung isa sa mga mods si enrichko....wala tayong lusot.
puro warning ang aabutin natin.........

kaya pala na-delete na yung ibang posts namin ni uls....

Off-topic posts were removed by me. Ehnriko does not have moderator functions in this subforum.

[renzo_d10]

Off-topic posts were removed by me. Ehnriko does not have moderator functions in this subforum.

OT posts that were removed are fine. Atleast we know na si GH ay present, as a moderator.

But, bakit kaya ganun si enrickho. Lalo lang niya pinapakita weakness niya by giving infractions that are not actually justifiable.

[vinj]

Ano ba yan,pati dito pala umuulan ng warnings

Haha... busy week eh. :D

Popcorn mode lang ako dito but since i have posted, might as well put up a question: pwede ba ito sa aso? Kawawa kasi yung Chihuahua namin, nanglalagas ng buhok lately.

To answer the TS: Never heard of it. No need for it.

OT posts that were removed are fine. Atleast we know na si GH ay present, as a moderator.

But, bakit kaya ganun si enrickho. Lalo lang niya pinapakita weakness niya by giving infractions that are not actually justifiable.

I guess he's quite miffed as he cannot express himself :consoling2: I was trying to backread and can't comprehend his post (sakit sa ulo).

[ghosthunter]

OT posts that were removed are fine. Atleast we know na si GH ay present, as a moderator.

But, bakit kaya ganun si enrickho. Lalo lang niya pinapakita weakness niya by giving infractions that are not actually justifiable.

Whatever infractions were given out, it still takes a super-moderator or admin to enforce action (banning, etc) against a tsikot.com member.

[ghosthunter]

na-warningan ako due to my previous post which was labelled as insulting and sarcastic. Labo. sino ba yun enriko? My previous post was targeted towards the seemingly fraudulent website of GToil and the product itself. member ba si gtoil? The TS wanted to know if this product was a scam and upon studying the website/blog of GT0il it would appear that it is from my point of view. My previous post would highlight the numerous red flags that would indicate a scam. Gt oil best for hydrogen powered vehicles? donate to save the environment section in the gtoil blog?

FYI: Ehnriko has vested interests in GTOil.

[uls]

posted by attyallanlatras:

4. Who am I working for? for myself and my family...I do not represent any of the oil companies, buti kung oo...hehehe additional clients....can anyone here recommend me to them....hehehe

5. How much do they pay me? I hope meron....I hope to received a check anytime soon...hehehe

he actually thinks the product is a threat to oil companies that oil companies would hire a lawyer to harass them

amazing

oil companies threatened by teeny tiny thing like that?

it's so small and insignificant oil companies don't even know it exists

somebody's flattering himself with delusions of david taking on goliath with goliath taking notice and feeling threatened

somebody's feet aint planted on the ground

it takes way way more than that to catch the attention of oil companies

like nationalizing an oil company's assets or suspending drilling permits

somebody needs reality check

[renzo_d10]

Whatever infractions were given out, it still takes a super-moderator or admin to enforce action (banning, etc) against a tsikot.com member.

oic, thanks gh!

[johnnhol]

na curious lang ako.. dvldoc ano na nangyari sa email mo sa India? wala pa bang sagot? o alam mo na yung totoo? hahaha

[Ry_Tower]

labo neto thread na to hehe. 2 tanong lang naman nun thread starter. Has anyone heard of GToil? my answer NO. Is this a scam? YES.

ginandahan ko lang yun post ko warning na.

Haha, ako nga playing with word eh insulting na daw. Hindi nga directed sa tao yun, pi-nost ko lang yung nakalagay sa bottle nung post ni Uls. Si Uls pa yun. Buhay nga naman.

Sana napaliwanag pa sa akin yun....kung puwede lang naman.